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Old 02-14-2004, 04:19 PM
Nate Nate is offline
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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
I'm still waiting for them to use fact. Yes, science is re-written, and the second they come up with facts that say they're humans the whole time, or that they have souls, fine. But as of right now, the things that classify something as a mammal include both lungs and a spinal chord. They don't have those until 8 weeks in. That is fact. You don't have facts. None of you. You whine about them being living humans, when they aren't human the whole time. Then you say "How do you know" to everything, when you know less because you're so quick to disregard scientific evidence even though it's based in fact. I'm not saying you shouldn't have your own beliefs, but to make laws based on that is wrong, and it's pushing your beliefs on everybody else. You're just as bad as the people who started the "Jesus Died For You" thread. Probably worse, because they never called anybody murderers, they never compared anybody to mass murdering dictators, and they never wished death on people.

You all still have nothing. You haven't brought up one single fact to support anything you've said. And when someone brings in factual evidence to support the opposite side, you're quick to dismiss it and say "Come on, bring something better than THAT". How about you come up with something better than NOTHING. You can't, and that's why you've been so quick to resort to petty insults. You have no proof, no evidence. Just some pseudo-religious bullshit.
Petty insults?wtf are you talking about i didnt insult anyone.If something that is growing inside of a womans womb is not life enough for you so be it.its not a matter of fact or fiction but nothing you have stated was a fact either ive pasted this this next part from several scientists who were asked about this very issue and heres what they cant prove:
Science can tell us, with increasing detail, the processes that start with a sperm and ovum and end up with a newborn baby. But it cannot tell us:

Does the fetus have a soul?
When do the products of conception become a person?
Does a zygote have a full set of human rights?
Is an ovum and sperm a person?
Is abortion murder?

So i just showed you sam that not even the scientists can be sure of this so if there are uncertainties in anything then it all comes down to opinion and thats all we can go by.I respect your opinion but i have mine to.Im not even saying mine is right but like i said before what made it clear for me was seeing it done and i didnt like the feeling after,and i dont know anyone who has.
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