[Haunted]

And!!!! Arouuuuuund and we go and we go! And around and around we go!

Let me put it like this:

I'm not just backing up S, because he is a friend, very intelligent and knowledgeable on many subjects, and just happens to be good...nevermind...

Let me suggest, Pr33sur3 or whatever, that you take the time to do a little research and then return to the discussion with a response. The reasons are as follows.

1. You're repeating yourself quite a bit.
2. You're not really making much sense.
3. You really don't seem to be very knowledgeable on the subject.
4. You're dead wrong on many points, except about how certain psychopaths have, indeed, used religion to their dastardly ends. Keep in mind that also can be said of Marxism, Socialism, and even Democracy itself. Isms have a tendency to look good on paper it's true, but only the true of heart and the worthy of spirit may find peace in them or some such...

You seem to only understand the negative pieces of two major religions. You don't even understand the fullness of either of those religions. I doubt you've read the Qu'ran or the Bible, the Vedas, any Sutras, the Tain, etc. You've read the works of the philosphers following. You've never met the true believers who espouse the teachings of the actual doctrines as they are written (i.e. to inspire peace within the hearts of the readers).

Furthermore, it isn't about relying on a great "supernatural" power, but yet, finding a connection with oneself and everything else.

There's a lot you don't get. Your posts are hypocritical, and you've only to read them, to notice this about them. Take a moment or two to do a little thinking, a little research...educate yourself. Rethink what you've been saying, because by and large you're off the mark, and then post again. Otherwise, you're going to keep saying the same thing, and other than pointing out the failings of the Church and the doings of radical non-Islamic Muslims (who only believe that they are practicing Islam, while most Muslims know better), you're totally wrong.