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Originally posted by urgeok
there are definately a lot of people who prefer substance over style. it's about 1/2 and 1/2.
i always found that kind of funny in the horror genre where reality often is thrown out by the very nature of the plot itself.
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Actually, call me too picky, but I prefer movies with both. If a movie does have substance and story but lacks style, I also don't like it. Examples: 28 DAYS LATER, which had a story, but the lighting, camera angles, and poor diction got on my last nerve; and some movie I can't remember the name of about a "Poe" serial killer killing his victims in the pattern of Poe stories. Great, original concept and story, but the acting and camera work were so bad that I couldn't get through it.
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[i]i dont believe in ghosts. so by that token i should see any movie with a ghost as fanciful fluff (if i was of that mind set). There are a lot of people who do feel this way.[/B]
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You should start, Dude. I believe in them, and it opens up whole new worlds. It's almost like the age-old horror genre addage (sp.?), you can't see it unless you believe. Not that I've actually ever SEEN a ghost, but in believing they do exist, I've had a few supernatural experiences myself, and know others who likewise have.
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[i]I dont need everything explained for me .. i can enjoy a visual trip [/B]
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I do. I think it's a sign of superior thought, creativity, and storytelling on the part of the author/screenwriter. Then again, maybe that's the writer in me. I just appreciate stuff that makes me think.
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[i]If i expected everything to make sense there would be very few movies to chose from and definatelly nothing in the horror genre where everything is 100% bullshit to begin with.
(except fear itself.... although even thinking about that - irrational fear is bullshit too .. it's not like there is anything in a movie to be truely afraid of - it aint real)[/B]
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Gotta butt heads with you a bit on that one. I think there are a lot of horror movies out there that do make sense and have realistic element: THE EXORCIST and THE EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE, for starters, which are loosely based on an actual possession and deals with the Devil, which I also believe exists. AMYTIVILLE HORROR (the original), THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, and THE HILLS HAVE EYES are also believable premises, demons (which I believe exist) and crazy people/cannibals (I believe their is no limit to the level of craziness other people can dish out. There are some really f-ed up folks out there.), again all loosely based on true incidents. Others that aren't based on true stories but which still had believable premises to me include SAW and SAW II, WITCHBOARD, and THE DEVIL'S REJECTS. Even HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES was believable, with perhaps exception of the zombie scene.
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[i]I dont know why/where people draw their lines of 'whats acceptable' in the sand. I cant even define my own level of acceptability - other than this : if it is visually interesting, the acting is decent ... the pacing is appropriate ,,etc .. then its a good experince for me.[/B]
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I think its personal differences in taste. For me, while something making sense AND having good style should both be present, I need one other element even more. When I see/read something, I need to get a chill down my spine, or at least some sort of emotional reaction. I know that may be simple/and or abstract, but that's what does it for me. If I get "my chill," I can often enjoy movies that lack in one or even both of the other elements. With SILENT HILL, as you may have guessed, no chill, and with the messy plot, I just couldn't get into it.
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[i] After seeing Silent Hill I left that theatre with some strong and lasting visual images. I cant think of many other horror films in ages that has done that for me.. [/B]
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That actually happened for me with THE DEVIL'S REJECTS, the new THE HILLS HAVE EYES, and HOUSE OF 1,000 CORPSES. With the zombie films in particular, I was seeing those images in my mind's eye for months afterward. But I also thought both of those movies had the elements of substance and style as well.
I'm glad you posted your reaction, Urgeok. Even though we disagree on this film, it has been fun debating and discussing it. :cool: