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Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
I was refering to Indie Rock the genre (more extreme edgedor quirky alternative music) not their label status. Ian Mackaye's band Embrace and Guy Piccoloto's Rites Of Spring were the pioneers of Emo. I didn't say Minor Threat were Emo I said they were punk. ------>Punk/Emo Heritege<-------
Crass weren't drunks. I posted "Punk is Dead" because of the thread title it's pretty obvious I don't think so. Crass were a better band than the Clash ever was and they had a hell of a lot more to say. And yeh The Clash were fucking sellouts. The Sex Pistols against sexism?! I 'spose GG Allin was a woman's right advocate too.
The new bands I mentioned isn't copying any of the past acts they're doing their own thing and are influenced more by grindcore and alternative music than anything else. As far as these guys "taking the fashion from the music and not the message" you must be kidding me?! These guys are just as active (if not more) at protest as Fugazi was. Aus-Rotten for example were a massive driving force behind events and protests.
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Emo is the worst insult you can give in the "Punk" culture. But Emo (the term and meaning) wasn't around until the late 90's. Emo is used for bands like sum41 and Blink 182. Embrace ? Rites Of Spring ? That is a big difference. Maybe they're not PUNK. but thats more "Indie" music then what you say fugazi is. And Fugazi is hardcore, they are the only band that survived from the scene and the only band that is still fighting.
If you wanna talk shit about my favorite band and the best hardcore/"Punk" band of all time. I gotta a million reason why they are better then any other band. Besides your from New Zealand, Punk came from America. Don't be throwing terms around that American band invented.
Plus, you missed the whole concept. I never was against ALL of beliefs of crass. Just Anarachy, which you still know is unrealistic.
The clash never preached like Crass. It was always about music then the message. Crass was about message then music. When people goto shows they don't want to be preached someone elses beliefs, if people are oppressed by the governments forced ideas. Do you think they wanna goto a club and get feed rebel idea's ? Music should be inspiring, not pure idealistic. But we are going to disagree about that one.