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Originally posted by Arioch
Id just like to say goodform on both Stingy AND Creepers back and fourth debating here....
You guys raise the bar as to the maturity and well formed arguments here....A grand example to the rest of we posters....
Goodform...
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Thanks bro, yea its better to have a serious discussion instead of taking it down in the gutter and name calling.
On that note, Stingy, I think that you are in a unique position being an atheist, whereas someone who is a christian, buddist, Pagan, Wiccan, or whatever, they have as myself do convictions to follow, and dont get me wrong I am not saying that you dont have convictions, but what I am saying is that it is hard for an individual not to make decisions based on thier faith.
I try to do right by folks and have respect for Nature and Mother Earth. I take only what I need and try to live my life by a certain philosphy. After all I think that religion is philosphy and it all depends on how you look at it. If W believes in his heart that stem cell research is wrong because of his religious beliefs I cant fault him for that as much as I disagree with him on that issue. Of course there are those that claim to be religious and then do things that are against everything that they claim to believe, some want to have it both ways. I guess all you can do is try to live life the best way you know how and in your heart you know if something you are doing is right or if it is wrong.
This is the problem I have with Kerry, he changes his position too many times so it is really hard to figure what he really believes. I prefer someone who can tell me what they think or feel and then not change that position based on polls or pressure.
Example: Alan Keyes- this guy is a right wing nut job to most, but he says what he thinks( I have heard the guy speak on several occasions) and he has never changed his position on what he has said. He said he thought that homosexuality is wrong, when asked about Cheneys daughter, he said that just because its CHeneys daughter makes no difference to him, he still believes it is wrong and condemns her for it. Now I dont think that is right by any stretch of the imagination, but the guy sticks to what he says and what you see is what you get. I would really like to see someone in politics like this, not his positions but his taking a stand whether it be unpopular or not.