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Arioch,
Sorry it took so long to reply. I was out of town and now getting caught up for my finals. Now on to my reply...
Well, I didn't think it was a pissing match. I think you must have taken things a tad too seriously. ;)
You still haven't defined the criteria for a guitar God. Read your initial post. You dismissed Morello because he didn't change guitar playing around the world, and then you ignore the most influential guitarist, Eddie Van Halen, to the masses since Jimmy Page. All the two handing tapping that has gone on since him is directly influenced by him. Eddie can do things on guitar that no one else can. "Eruption" alone puts him in the guitar God category.
I do like how you listen only certain singles Van Halen released. If you heard his acoustic guitar playing on VH III (the album with that Cherone as the singer), you'd shit. I have no idea if you can find these songs to DLed, but try to find "Neworld" and "Year to the Day." If you can find those, and then come back here and tell me he can't play Dimebag under the table, I'd be shocked. And when you listen to "Neworld," remember Eddie is playing the keyboard on that song as well. He is a very good pianist.
And I dare you to listen to "Right Now" and tell me that isn't an incredibly written piece of music. There is great piano and guitar work in that song by Eddie.
Also, I know you probably don't have access to this, but if you do, check out the live version of "316" off Van Halen Live. It is Eddie performing an instrumental solo for about 12 mintues. About the 2:50 minute mark, enjoy. If you can seriously reply that he is not a great guitarist after hearing that, I'm going to question your sanity. ;)
I am a Dimebag fan, but he can't handle Eddie and he has admitted so. Odd he is a VH fan, huh? :b
Go back and listen to Rhodes, Dimebag, etc. When you hear them doing two handed taping during a solo, remember the first person, Eddie, that made it an art form. ;)
I love Randy Rhodes, by the way.
I wouldn't have dissected the guitarists you listed had I known you were meaning only those who influenced you. I thought you were saying you considered them guitar Gods. I could list several guitarist that influenced me, but that are not guitar Gods.
You said, "I think thats y your seeing them as better musicians." I was merely talking about guitar ability, not their overall musical ability. If that was the case, many artists that can't play their instrument at a high level (Lennon, Cobain, etc.) would blow Dimebag, Van Halen, Hendrix, etc., out of the water as far as I'm concerned. Hendrix doesn't exactly write the most complex, as in complexity with texture and feel, songs. The guitar playing is amazing, but many of his songs wouldn't translate very well to other instruments. This would be an entirely new argument, and one that would be much more subjective than just defining what a guitar God is, and then seeing which guitarists fit that criteria.
"Man this is total hersay, you have no idea who'll be remembered for what, you predicting the future here?? come on man, you forget that rage got ALOT of radio play and MTV coverage."
Well, earlier you said, "Hes good, dont get me wrong but i dont think 10 years from now there is gonna be anyone claiming "Tom Morello changed guitar playing forever"."
What makes your opinion on what will be remembered 10 years from now anymore valid than mine regarding which band will be remembered longer? I'm projecting from right now. Rage is credited by most for bringing the rap/rock combo to a new level and helped spawn Korn, Limp, Linkin' Park, etc. Quick, name for me the bands that are multi-platinum selling artists that were spawn from Pantera. Are they on the level with what has come from Rage?
I never said which one was better. I merely said which one will be remembered longer and at a higher level. Rage sold more records and had a much bigger impact on mainstream music than Pantera. Care to disagree? In your next paragraph you started explaining why Rage is more known and sold more records. You are backing up my point that they will likely be remembered long after Pantera.
If you'd like to disagree, tell me why I'm wrong. If you want to say Pantera is better than Rage and Audioslave, that is cool. That is a personal choice. But claiming Pantera will be remembered more than Rage to mainstream music, well, that's just incorrect and your arguments even backed that point up.
"Im sorry but your never gonna convience me that someone who wrote Jump, Hot for teacher, and other 80s hits (someone who should be in say Montley Crues league) belongs next to true legends like Hindrix, Beck, Clapton, Vahn, and Page."
Define what a guitar God is and explain how those guys are above Van Halen. He has as much skill as any of them, and was more influential on general guitarist than Vaughn or Beck with ease. There is a reason he has won so many "best guitarist" votes in magazines and usually comes in second or third behind Hendrix and Page for guitar polls about who is the best guitarist of all time. Those results alone show most guitarists rank him as a guitar God IMO.
I don't mean this as a pissing match argument, just a discussion. I would drop a ton of F-bombs and insults if I was just trying to yell at you and insult you lol.
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