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Originally posted by Je Suis Phnomne
Or my all time favorite :rolleyes: *Whats the harm in believing, come on. If god does exists and you belive, you have lost nothing, but at the same time if god exists and you dont believe, then you have lost everything.* to which my reply is.....*If and this is a big IF this god you speak of does exist, he is claimed to be a forgiving man, and if at that time I am before him, and truly beg forgiveness then I should be forgiven and allowed to pass*
then they give me this shit about having your cake and eating it too and thats not the way things work, etc etc etc.
so I say.... begone with ya, keep drinkin that kool-aid on sundays, and putting faith in air, give some more money to your church, the preacher needs a new caddie, and please please please answer this question before you go..... If everything in your world comes crashing down, bills are behind, losing your home, wife is leaving, kids hate your guts etc etc etc. Where is your god then? Free Will my ass. Sounds more like a Sadistic Hidden Video.
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Yeah, I've heard that one before ... often. They have a name for that argument ... something like Big Gamble ... I don't remember. I always say in response: "Don't tell me I lost nothing if I lived my life believing a lie. The only life I had, and I wasted the thing walking about, not bothering to try to figure out what it was all about, what was truth, what was not. I'm sorry, but this is the only life I have. I don't want to live it lost in a delusion."
And I agree with your idea of God not forgiving the good. I mean, I'm a good guy. I teach, contribute to the community, help others when I can, don't commit any crimes, and treat people right. My only fault is that I don't believe in god. Then, there's the sadistic killer who spends his life torturing children, raping people, disemboweling people and forcing them to eat their own intestines ... but right before he dies he asks God for forgiveness and accepts Jesus in his heart. Say he and I die at the same time. He gets into heaven, and I go to hell. I mean ... I'm just a mere mortal, and I have a greater sense of justice than that.