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Old 11-18-2003, 05:12 PM
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Reasons why you are wrong

Reasns You Are Wrong

#1) I am not arguing against this band "because a friend told me to". I am simply citing his story as one example of why I would not support, and in fact, would discourage people from listening to that music. Any band where the members use and abuse venue and promoter employees to the point where said employees are ready to quit is not a band worthy of fame.

#2) quote:"without actually hearing any of it...Have labeled it horrible" As you said, lets stick with the facts. I have listened to ICP and can tell you, that from the songs I have heard (such as "Bugz On My Nutz, "My Kind Of Bitch", "I Stuck Her With My Wang", real classy stuff BTW) and can say with all assuredness, it is "horrible music"

#3) quote:"You assume only kids listen to it, desite ICP's 11 year history" Yes, I do assume only kids listen to it because I have yet to see anyone over the age of 18 sporting any kind of ICP wear, or saying anything like, "Yo, that new ICP shit is dope, yo!" The fact that the band has an eleven year history says nothing about the age of the fans, only the age of the band members. That's like saying,"oh, well, Sesame Street's been on the air for twenty years, so obviously all of the people that watched it when they were young have continued watching it well into their late twenties."It's ludicrous to propose that the same people who listened to IC when they started still listen to them today. Lets face it, some bands aim their music at a target demographic. Some pick 20-30, some pick 45 -60. ICP however, has chosen to target an extremely young demographic. Peoples tastes in music CHANGE as they get older, whether or not you would like to believe it. The Grateful Dead toured for 30 years, and their main demographic remained the 20yrs to 30 yrs the entire time. SO, unless their fans don't age...people move on from different musical phases at different ages.

#4) How is the fact that I called a music style gross "above all else" in your list of "arguments"?

#5) quote:"They've reached tops of charts and sold gold/plat albums" I've searched through tons and tons of Pollstar reoprts (which is the magazine that documents the charts and who goes platinum and gold)and could not find one report of ICP reaching the top of any chart (indy or otherwise) and absolutely no reports of any of their albums hitting the Gold or Platinum status. Please find me where it says these guys hit the top of the charts and went Platinum, cuz I'd be very interested to know whose taking down those numbers..

#6) quote:"It's this type of success (yes, success) that should make you realize, maybe you're missing something." If success is how you measure the artistic integrity and musical worth of a band, then I'm not sure why I'm even debating music with you at all. If you measure a band's musical worth by the volume of success it recieves, then we can all say that the members of 'Nsync are just as genius as the members of ICP, now can't we?

Conclusion: Know your shit before you try and talk music w/ me. Now, go back to your Magic cards and Dungeons and Dragons, son.

BTW:I would have to say that anyone who can't step up an take a shot at explaining the "genius" of ICP to me is not really doing a good job of representing for their favorite band, are they?
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