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leezuki 07-13-2011 01:15 PM

Rob Zombie Yay or Nay
 
This comes off the back of the AITH column. Is RZ a figure to be loathed, loved or tolerated?

For me, he's someone who loves horror movies, has delivered when being original but somehow fell into the remake/reimagine trap.

The Villain 07-13-2011 04:54 PM

He's only remade one movie and then did a sequel of that remake. I wouldn't say he's fallen into any traps. He was going to remake The Blob but decided to make his own original movie Lord's of Salem which is a much better idea. I personally like Zombie but he's limited as a director, he can really only make one kind of movie or at least that's all i've seen from him. Halloween was slightly different but he fell right back into his comfort zone with the dreadful H2. But i enjoyed House of 1000 Corpses and The Devil's Rejects was excellent. I'll have to see what he can do with his next film.

Elvis_Christ 07-13-2011 04:58 PM

Do you have a link to that column? I'd like to read it.

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Originally Posted by leezuki (Post 897420)
For me, he's someone who loves horror movies, has delivered when being original but somehow fell into the remake/reimagine trap.

Yeah he is much better when doing his own stuff. The Devil's Rejects really showed he was growing as a film maker and writer. I'm one of the few that enjoyed his Halloween flicks especially the second one. I don't think he would've really had much of a choice in being steered into the remake wagon as the majority of big studio output in recent years has been remakes. They make money so that's what will get green lighted. I think we'll see some great work from him in years to come. It's still early days really.

He's definitely a figure that's almost cool to hate. I've lost count of the amount of posts I've read over the years since House Of 1000 Corpses releases bagging on him. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course but it cracks me up how mentioning he sucks (along with remakes suck) is usually an opening line from a lot of noobs to the genre throw out there to try and gain some cred. It's so fucking sheepish.

Zombie's style is IMO handles the self reflexive style of cinema that draws from the past with more subtlety than say Tarantino's work. I didn't hear nearly as big of an uproar screaming "RIPOFF!!" upon the release of Kill Bill or Inglourious Basterds. Both those films more blatantly ripped off other films than either House Of 1000 Corpses or The Devil's Rejects ever did. But that's a whole other thread :p

...so to make a long story short I think he's one of the better directors in recent memory with a really distinct style. Miles ahead of the likes of Adam Green, James Wan and Eli Roth.

neverending 07-13-2011 06:05 PM

I think he started off at the top of his game and has been going downhill since then, kind of like M. Night Shamalayan (or however you spell that).

I didn't much like his Halloween films, I thought House of 1,000 Corpses was brilliant and Devil's Rejects a respectable sequel. I think he has a lot of potential to be unleasehed and we'll see more great work from him. Then again, a lot of modern horror directors started really strong and never reached the heights of their early offerings again- Carpenter, Dante, Hooper, Romero...

TheWickerFan 07-14-2011 01:24 AM

I really enjoyed the tales of the Firefly Clan and even enjoyed Halloween up until he escaped the mental institution. I think he has more good horror left in him.

If only Werewolf Women Of The S.S. became a reality.:(

The Villain 07-14-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWickerFan (Post 897468)
I really enjoyed the tales of the Firefly Clan and even enjoyed Halloween up until he escaped the mental institution. I think he has more good horror left in him.

If only Werewolf Women Of The S.S. became a reality.:(

Dont lose hope, they made Machete and Hobo With A Shotgun after all

Despare 07-14-2011 01:14 PM

I think he'll get better over time, he seems to learn very well. Even with his music he seemed to grow, recognize what wasn't working, and change accordingly. We'll see, for now I say yay.

Elvis_Christ 07-14-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 897481)
Even with his music he seemed to grow, recognize what wasn't working, and change accordingly.

I thought his music got worse as it went on to be honest. Everything after White Zombie was rubbish IMO.

Despare 07-15-2011 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 897488)
I thought his music got worse as it went on to be honest. Everything after White Zombie was rubbish IMO.

He changed genres though, and then he slowly began to work back to what he had with a little bit of new influence. Educated Horses was a fine album IMO...

Elvis_Christ 07-15-2011 05:54 AM

I'll have to give Educated Horses a spin.

I want La Sexorcisto on LP so bad but fuck it's expensive. Kinda weird considering there's so many copies out there. I can understand the steep prices for the real early records. Guess I'll just have to save up and bite the bullet and get it one day :D


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