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neilold 11-13-2009 01:13 AM

how do i think them up????
 
I've got a great idea for a horror movie. I'm going to do a remake. It will be a re-make of an old 70/80s semi-obscure classic. It'll have a bunch of faceless teens with no sort of character development for any of them, who you'll be glad to see the back of. The killer will be someone who makes a sham of the role of the original killer. I'll put trendy new references in it to stuff like the internet and reality tv. There will also be the odd cameo from the stars of the original. Finally i'll totally divide my audience by making it similar enough to the original to upset fans of the original , but at the same time not similar enough in order to get away any critical comparrisons. What a fantastic idea, if only there were directors around at the moment who had similar sort of ideas. I just don't know how i think them up, i really don't.

Ferox13 11-13-2009 04:34 AM

Remakes are a sure fire/easy way to make money.

As long as they continue to do so they keep getting made.

Don't be so naive to think that there are no new scripts ot there - Hollywood is run by acccounts now.

p1zl3 11-15-2009 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by neilold (Post 836814)
I've got a great idea for a horror movie. I'm going to do a remake. It will be a re-make of an old 70/80s semi-obscure classic. It'll have a bunch of faceless teens with no sort of character development for any of them, who you'll be glad to see the back of. The killer will be someone who makes a sham of the role of the original killer. I'll put trendy new references in it to stuff like the internet and reality tv. There will also be the odd cameo from the stars of the original. Finally i'll totally divide my audience by making it similar enough to the original to upset fans of the original , but at the same time not similar enough in order to get away any critical comparrisons. What a fantastic idea, if only there were directors around at the moment who had similar sort of ideas. I just don't know how i think them up, i really don't.

You forgot to mention gratuitous boobs every 15min 38sec...

Doc Faustus 11-15-2009 12:42 PM

These remakes are not really grossing that much and are alienating fans. One thing you need to succeed artistically is repeat business regardless of what level you're working at. I'm a small press writer with a very small fan base that trusts me. They know that if I write something, I'm going to make sure it's a quality original product that does not compromise my vision. If I write a collection of Desperate Housewives fanfic, they might not trust the next book I put out. So, I don't. It's going to be a bitter pill for a lot of these directors writing remakes that stop making anything above the most middling show at the box office. They're corrupting themselves as a brand. We might be a country that accepts the Big Mac as an actual food item but that does not mean that somebody starting at the bottom trying to build up their own brand should make a 1,500 calorie burger and slather it in thousand island dressing. Besides, the studios have stables of writers to do the remakes for them. You can't just write a remake and try to submit it to agents. That's a good way to waste six dollars in postage.

Ferox13 11-15-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 837038)
These remakes are not really grossing that much and are alienating fans. One thing you need to succeed artistically is repeat business regardless of what level you're working at. I'm a small press writer with a very small fan base that trusts me. They know that if I write something, I'm going to make sure it's a quality original product that does not compromise my vision. If I write a collection of Desperate Housewives fanfic, they might not trust the next book I put out. So, I don't. It's going to be a bitter pill for a lot of these directors writing remakes that stop making anything above the most middling show at the box office. They're corrupting themselves as a brand. We might be a country that accepts the Big Mac as an actual food item but that does not mean that somebody starting at the bottom trying to build up their own brand should make a 1,500 calorie burger and slather it in thousand island dressing. Besides, the studios have stables of writers to do the remakes for them. You can't just write a remake and try to submit it to agents. That's a good way to waste six dollars in postage.

I think for the most part all remakes are making bank.

And what fans are they alienating - ppl like us. I would imagine we are a tiny fraction of the cinema going audience that go to see these films. I bet if u asked every person who saw the Prom Night remake who directed the original i would say a fraction of 1% would know. The remakes are not made for nerd fans who collect films from the 2nd unit director of Street Trash.

Doc Faustus 11-15-2009 05:12 PM

Not too much bank. They end up in bargain bins pretty fast. And they don't encourage repeat business from even casual gorehounds.

cheebacheeba 11-15-2009 08:16 PM

Kickin' it like Mario
The land o' Koopa-rio
Best back up if you see me grab a Star-io
I'll glow and I'll run and I jump real far-io
To bitchslap you like I bitchslappa Wario.


PEACE, I'M OUT

neilold 11-16-2009 01:32 AM

some ineresting posts.

Elvis_Christ 11-16-2009 02:22 AM

Yo neilold you should remake Final Destination

Ferox13 11-16-2009 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 837053)
Not too much bank. They end up in bargain bins pretty fast. And they don't encourage repeat business from even casual gorehounds.

I would guess almost every single remake made cash..

When a Stranger Calls cost $15m made $41m

The RIng cost $48m made $129m

The Grudge cost $10m made $110m

Prom Night cost $18m made $48m

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre cost $9.2m made $80m

The Amityville Horror cost $19m made $65m

Friday the 13th cost $16m made $65m

Thirteen Ghosts cost $20m made $41m

The Omen cost $25m made $54m

My Bloody Valentine cost $25m made $51m

Dawn of the Dead cost $28m made $58m

Halloween cost $20m made $58m

These figure are what they made in US CINEMAS ONLY - so they also made more cash from the foreign market and DVD sales too.

So i'm not really sure where you're getting the idea that they're making 'Not too much bank'.. Remakes are a safe bet and consistantly make money - I don't understand your point that 'they don't encourage repeat business from even casual gorehounds'.

To put it in perspective heres the American Gross' for some 'original script/non-remake' horror:

The Mist cost $13m(?) made $25m

Land of the Dead cost $15m made $21m

30 Days of Night cost $32m made $39m

I am Legend cost €150m made $256m

1408 cost €25m made €71m

28 days Later cost $9.8m made $45m


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