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fuglystick 02-12-2009 03:03 PM

Fanboys gone wild
 
Apparently there is a group of TDK fans who thought Ledger's performance as the Joker was so OMG AWESOME that the character should be retired forever.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Movi...oom/index.html

I appreciated Ledger's performance as much as anyone, but GTFO. The Joker is a cultural icon, and bigger than any actor who portrays him. People who engage in this degree of fawning make me nauseous.

cheebacheeba 02-12-2009 03:11 PM

:rolleyes:
I've said this before....the guy did a great job for that Joker, for Nolans Joker, for a 'twist' on the Joker in the slightly skewed version of the DC/Bat universe Nolan established...but, he wasn't the be all and end all...he wasn't the only Joker that ever, or could be.
In fact, he didn't really much resemble the Joker of ongoing continuity too much at all...for what it was, great job. But this shit is stupid - the studios aren't going to take any such petitions seriously - if a film is made with another Joker role, it'll be made, as will much money - it's pretty obvious, that these asses would still go see another Batman film with the Joker just to get to say how terrible the new one was by comparison.
The rest of us "normal" people will move on...and see a movie just because.

milktoaste 02-12-2009 04:20 PM

Sure he may have raised the a bar, but to retire an iconic character like some football jersey number-that's just stupid.

neverending 02-12-2009 04:41 PM

There's an online petition for everything.

Despare 02-12-2009 04:56 PM

He was great, as good as Jack in my opinion but not really better... just different. Worth "retiring" the character? Hardly...

The_Return 02-12-2009 06:41 PM

Do I think that he was the ultimate embodiment of the character? Yes.

Do I think that anyone else could live up to Heath's spellbinding performance? Christ no.

But to retire the character outright? These people are fucking retarded.

Part of the beauty of The Joker's character is that he changes, constantly. In Arkham Asylum, he is described as not having any real personality, reinventing himself daily to suit his own mood.

Every portrayal of him shows a different aspect of his scarred psyche. The Joker in Dark Knight is totally different from The Joker in Batman: The Animated Series, and even further removed from Nicholson's take in Batman. To go farther, none of these versions really match the comic: depending on the writer, he is either brutally sadistic, menacingly playful, harmlessly amusing and absolutely everything in between.

Personally, I think Heath Ledger's take on The Joker is damn near the perfect embodiment of the character. His portrayal lives up to my own perfect idea of what the Joker should be - and I'm just about the biggest Joker fanboy you'll ever meet. Does that mean I think they should stop using the character? Fuck no...this is a major step in the character's evolution. To let him die here would be a greater affront to Heath's memory that re-casting him would be.

newb 02-12-2009 07:14 PM

Where's the Caesar Romero love man

http://kezins.com/wp-content/uploads...8/joker_13.jpg

Ferox13 02-13-2009 05:41 AM

The_Return - good post.

urgeok2 02-13-2009 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newb (Post 788707)
Where's the Caesar Romero love man


he showed the 'funny as hell but not the slightest bit of menace' side of the Joker :)

Despare 02-13-2009 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 788697)
Part of the beauty of The Joker's character is that he changes, constantly.

Even his origin story is unclear and always shifting, hell, maybe we could see The Joker as Red Hood in the next flick.


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