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Roderick Usher 08-24-2006 05:15 PM

recent Torture/Horror trend stems from...
 
The Passion of the Christ!

Now I'm not one of those believers,(and mean absolutely no offense to those of you out there who are) but I know good story and good mythology. The story of the Christ is compelling stuff, healing, miracles, dying for sins,...all good story telling elements.

But this film...

Mel managed to turn this epic bit of Mythology into a snuff film with 10 times the gore of Hostel. The scourging scene made me squirm. Mel has some sort of "you must suffer to be a man" thing going on, that is alternately ridiculous and titilating. (torture scene in Lethal Weapon, anyone?)

I told all of my friends that it was the best horror film of the year - hell Mel even threw in an androgynous devil character who lurks around menacingly like Damein.

It showed that you could load a film with torture and gore and make a mint!

Posher778 08-24-2006 05:54 PM

I think you misinterpreted this movie a bit...

paws the great 08-24-2006 06:19 PM

Passion of the Christ is not horror film.Its a deeply moving work of religious art.

persuasian70 08-24-2006 06:45 PM

Recent Torture?Horror trend stems from Japanese horror movies like Audition, Suicide Club, tec., in my opinion. Japan would not be influenced by The Passion because the vast majority of Japanese are not Christians.

azathoth777 08-24-2006 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by persuasian70
Recent Torture?Horror trend stems from Japanese horror movies like Audition, Suicide Club, tec., in my opinion. Japan would not be influenced by The Passion because the vast majority of Japanese are not Christians.
And the Japanese where making torture horror long before The Passion... came out.
I think it's more that people want more blood and such, and torture is just the best way to do that. Alot of horror fans are sick of wimpy PG-13 films.

urgeok 08-25-2006 03:09 AM

the recent torture flicks were influenced by the 70's grindhouse movies of which Tarantino and his ilk loved.

PR3SSUR3 08-25-2006 04:27 AM

The Passion of the Christ was indeed eye-watering stuff in places, and it was obviously decided that sadistic gore was required in order for us to fully appreciate our saviour's revelation.

Perhaps Christians are made to feel like women, then, after watching I Spit on Your Grave?

'Christploitation' isn't new (remember The Last Temptation...?), but never has it been so visceral.

In terms of what has been the influence on Saw, Hostel, Wolf Creek et al, I would say producers have finally decided to put both feet back in the nasty exploitation era and go for broke. Shock sells, and filmmakers have realised they are allowed to get away with much more this decade than they were in times of broad censorship twenty years ago. Because the authorities and campaigners are more distracted by the internet, film isn't the scrutinised media that it was.

If they can truly ditch the self-awareness and irony while they're at it, this is good news for all of us.

urgeok 08-25-2006 04:53 AM

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Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
[B]If they can truly ditch the self-awareness and irony while they're at it, this is good news for all of us.

i think that trend will fade in time ..

call them 're-growing pains'

Freak 08-25-2006 10:07 AM

I'm sorry and I hope I don't offend anybody with this, but Passion is the most over rated movie of all time.Like Jesus is the only person to ever be tortured for hours and hours.

urgeok 08-25-2006 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by Freak
I'm sorry and I hope I don't offend anybody with this, but Passion is the most over rated movie of all time.Like Jesus is the only person to ever be tortured for hours and hours.
uhhh, i'm not a christian but even i couldn't let this one go ..


Jesus supposedly died for all of our sins. everyone ... the whole world at the time ....and everyone since.

so if you follow this faith i think that makes his act pretty significant.

the only thing that offended me about that post was how rediculous it was.


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