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Elvis_Christ 04-01-2006 09:31 PM

Slashers
 
What are your thoughts on these flicks. Love 'em? Hate 'em? Bit of both maybe? I'm just writing a article on them and wanna get a picture of what the majority of horror fans think of them.

alkytrio666 04-01-2006 09:38 PM

Love 'em.

I love slashers, but not on a technical scale. They're ENTERTAINING, and sometimes I think folks lose track of what's important. Nowadays people want 'realistic' or 'smart' movies. Great. They're good. But when I just want to sit down and be entertained, what's better than a mindless flick from the Friday the 13th series or something? Nothin'.

Hope that's the kind of input you were looking for EC. Good luck with the article.

mothermold 04-01-2006 09:46 PM

Re: Slashers
 
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Originally posted by Elvis_Christ
What are your thoughts on these flicks. Love 'em? Hate 'em? Bit of both maybe? I'm just writing a article on them and wanna get a picture of what the majority of horror fans think of them.
If done well I love 'em(if their campy and corny I still love 'em)and to me thier the first thing that comes to mind when I think horror...zombies a close second.

slasherman 04-02-2006 12:00 AM

...I love the formula....but I like to see more hardcore serious slashers...not just the dumb teen slashers...but I like them too....

urgeok 04-02-2006 02:03 AM

i think most people know how i think ..

i grew up on them and learned to hate them..
specifically 1980s american slashers.
cookie cutter 'plot', poor acting from minor soap opera
'stars', shit music, dark, impossible to see anything cinematography, total lack of imagination and creativity.


i still dig a lot of the giallo/slashers, and the one or 2 outstanding ones (halloween, black christmas) but i think that for the most part the slasher movie cost the horror genre a lot of respectability... (combined with the home video explosion of the 80's)

PR3SSUR3 04-02-2006 03:08 AM

No horror genre has fallen victim to the post-modernist clever movement more than the slasher, so this is a rapidly failing theme to provide any real scares or innovation.

Who's seen Kolobos, and remembers the great face-denting-against-the-corner-of-the-bath scene?

urgeok 04-02-2006 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
No horror genre has fallen victim to the post-modernist clever movement more than the slasher, so this is a rapidly failing theme to provide any real scares or innovation.

Who's seen Kolobos, and remembers the great face-denting-against-the-corner-of-the-bath scene?


i know you hate the Scream, etc films .. but you honestly dont thing there's far more bad than good slashers in the 80's ?
there were a couple that were ok .. had good gore and/or featured other redeeming qualities ...but there were scads of impotent sub par shit that by far tipped the scale on the negative side ..

oh... by the way ...
i didnt participate in that 'who's the asshole' game on the weekend ..

(i cant be the only person who doesnt use caps :D )

PR3SSUR3 04-02-2006 06:33 AM

Probably... but at least those bad films were down to plain incompetence rather than blowing a load of cash on some interchangeable pretty boy victims and using smarmy self-awareness as a main selling point.

The jagged brutality of some Italian and American low-budget efforts (ripoffs, whatever) often made up for lapses in plot and performances, and I'd rather risk a duff oldie than the latest Kevin Williamson and the like.

And that's OK, ThomasGeorge doesn't use caps either... oh no wait, that's soap.


:D

urgeok 04-02-2006 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
Probably... but at least those bad films were down to plain incompetence rather than blowing a load of cash on some interchangeable pretty boy victims and using smarmy self-awareness as a main selling point.

The jagged brutality of some Italian and American low-budget efforts (ripoffs, whatever) often made up for lapses in plot and performances, and I'd rather risk a duff oldie than the latest Kevin Williamson and the like.

And that's OK, ThomasGeorge doesn't use caps either... oh no wait, that's soap.


:D

hey, just out of curiosity - if Scream hadnt spawned a bunch of samey 'self aware' like films ... would you have liked it more if it just stood alone as a fun horror parody made for oldschool slasher film fans ?

PR3SSUR3 04-02-2006 06:53 AM

I remember catching it accidently at a (non-horror fan) friend's house, and being quite intrigued... yet unmistakebly irritated.

Sure, I'd seen that kind of thing before (The Howling, TCM4) but Scream seemed to trumpet a new kind of smug post-modernism - one that would appeal to the average teenybopper keen to be in-the-know. This was gonna sell, and bound to catch on.

As a purist, this would of course never do :)

The double-killer thing is fine, the action is quite tense in places, the deaths sometimes gory (in the uncut version), the underlying awareness is desperately pandering and rings like tin.

Scary Movie series... now that's how to do it - it's the area between horror and parody I have a problem with.


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