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TheBossInTheWall 08-26-2015 12:45 PM

Simple curiosity poll
 
What gender do you identify as? I know there's lots more than I have listed here.
I guess I identify as a man, but I do not often think about my gender too much. Privilege I guess.

Roiffalo 08-26-2015 12:59 PM

Needs 'Genderpunk'. ::smile::
Although I do identify as 'female', I don't follow any stereotypes and am very rebellious towards anything feminine. Especially people like my father who think my hair needs to be long and pink my favorite color. People mistake me for a guy all the time though and it doesn't bother me anymore. I laugh if anything. So maybe 'genderindifferent'? ::big grin::

TheBossInTheWall 08-26-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Roiffalo (Post 999448)
Needs 'Genderpunk'. ::smile::
Although I do identify as 'female', I don't follow any stereotypes and am very rebellious towards anything feminine. Especially people like my father who think my hair needs to be long and pink my favorite color. People mistake me for a guy all the time though and it doesn't bother me anymore. I laugh if anything. So maybe 'genderindifferent'? ::big grin::

Hah. Maybe. : ) I didn't list female though on the assumption that is a sex, not a gender. Which isn't to say that's correct. : ) In my younger days I sometimes was mistaken for a girl due to being so pretty with make up on with death rocky clothes. Alas, the pretty dies with age.

Gender indifferent yeah. Sort of the same here.

And now I'm going to have in my head all day a member of Tribe 8, not sure who, saying(part of a song) "wrong fucking bathroom!"

Roiffalo 08-26-2015 01:42 PM

Hmm. I view sex and gender as the same thing but I try not to get too deep into naming ever damn aspect about myself. My sexuality is complicated enough as it is without dragging gender into it.

MichaelMyers 08-26-2015 01:51 PM

Whenever the wife says I shouldn't have another doughnut, I tell her I choose to identify as skinny and have my fill.

The Bloofer Lady 08-26-2015 01:59 PM

I voted woman. And I just happen to be one. ::cool::

Repo'd 08-26-2015 02:19 PM

My best friend is a dog, therefore I must be a man.

TheBossInTheWall 08-26-2015 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Repo'd (Post 999470)
My best friend is a dog, therefore I must be a (wolf)man.

Had to correct your mistake there.

Repo'd 08-26-2015 02:21 PM

::big grin:: Accurate, I suppose!

TheBossInTheWall 08-26-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Roiffalo (Post 999458)
Hmm. I view sex and gender as the same thing but I try not to get too deep into naming ever damn aspect about myself. My sexuality is complicated enough as it is without dragging gender into it.

Indeed. I like to analyze things sometimes, in regards to how/what people choose and why. Thoughts, commonalities, differences. For me its not about someone fitting a label, but everything that is a part of gender in general. Though this poll was just a passing curiosity. I didn't want to put 50 options in there.

newb 08-28-2015 08:07 AM

I'm a manly man

Dude Guadalupe 08-28-2015 10:21 AM

I'm less manly... but I'm pretty sure I'm still a man.

Hang on, let me check.....

Yep. Still a man.

Roiffalo 08-28-2015 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss (Post 999472)
My best friend is a dog, therefore I must be a (wolf)man.

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Originally Posted by Repo'd (Post 999472)
::big grin:: Accurate, I suppose!

Knew there was a reason I liked you, Repo ::big grin::

Repo'd 08-28-2015 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Roiffalo (Post 999649)
Knew there was a reason I liked you, Repo ::big grin::

Haha! And I knew there was a reason I LYCED you too. Get it? Lyced? ok, I guess that could be read as liced, but don't. Don't read it that way.

Roiffalo 08-28-2015 01:50 PM

I see what you did there ::big grin::

Sculpt 08-28-2015 10:20 PM

Can you explain what "Third Gender" is ?

cheebacheeba 08-28-2015 10:25 PM

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Can you explain what "Third Gender" is ?
It's when instead of nipples, you have mini-dicks growing out of them, and a vagina on the back of your neck.


I am a male.
I have a penis, and testicles, and the two work together to ejaculate semen.

DeadbeatAtDawn 08-29-2015 05:07 AM

woman.

TheBossInTheWall 08-29-2015 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 999674)
Can you explain what "Third Gender" is ?

Google. :)

hammerfan 08-29-2015 06:16 AM

You forgot "Alien"

anglewitch 08-29-2015 10:23 AM

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(Celenite) "MAN"
Those who have watched first men in the moon will get this.
Anyway. I'm a MAN.

MichaelMyers 08-29-2015 10:33 AM

I am a Rastafarian dwarf.

Sculpt 08-29-2015 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 999703)
Google. :)

Google it? I'd probably get multiple answers. Comon, it's your poll. How would you define it in your own words?

TheBossInTheWall 08-29-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 999743)
Google it? I'd probably get multiple answers. Comon, it's your poll. How would you define it in your own words?

Shrug. Its just something I typed up very quickly. A third gender is basically that, a third gender. Like in a gender binary(hyphen?) community, but with a third gender that serves a purpose. I mean there's more than just three genders, but I didn't want to type out a huge list.

tfantasy 08-30-2015 01:11 PM

woman

::roll eyes::

ChronoGrl 09-02-2015 09:02 AM

Aherm.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...ps886f995e.jpg


You might want to amend those labels to "CIS Man" and "CIS Woman."

Without the prefix of "cis," the implication is that "transgender" is in a different bucket as "man" and "woman" meaning that someone who is "trans" is not "man" or "woman." The prefix "cis" allows specific and differentiation of identification of being "male" or "female."

Example:

Caitlyn Jenner was born a man with male body parts and did not identify with those parts or that gender; she is a trans woman.

I was born a woman with female body parts and identify with these parts and this gender; I am a cis woman.

Roiffalo 09-02-2015 11:03 AM

^ Good post, but if this topic were to include every or most gender options... I'd be hella long.

The following are the 58 gender options identified by ABC News:

Agender
Androgyne
Androgynous
Bigender
Cis
Cisgender
Cis Female
Cis Male
Cis Man
Cis Woman
Cisgender Female
Cisgender Male
Cisgender Man
Cisgender Woman
Female to Male
FTM
Gender Fluid
Gender Nonconforming
Gender Questioning
Gender Variant
Genderqueer
Intersex
Male to Female
MTF
Neither
Neutrois
Non-binary
Other
Pangender
Trans
Trans*
Trans Female
Trans* Female
Trans Male
Trans* Male
Trans Man
Trans* Man
Trans Person
Trans* Person
Trans Woman
Trans* Woman
Transfeminine
Transgender
Transgender Female
Transgender Male
Transgender Man
Transgender Person
Transgender Woman
Transmasculine
Transsexual
Transsexual Female
Transsexual Male
Transsexual Man
Transsexual Person
Transsexual Woman
Two-Spirit


And Boss thought this was a SIMPLE question.

Nay nay.

Martha 09-06-2015 07:59 AM

I did the poll also. I posted as a woman.

TheBossInTheWall 09-06-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 999920)
Aherm.

You might want to amend those labels to "CIS Man" and "CIS Woman."

Without the prefix of "cis," the implication is that "transgender" is in a different bucket as "man" and "woman" meaning that someone who is "trans" is not "man" or "woman." The prefix "cis" allows specific and differentiation of identification of being "male" or "female."

Example:

Caitlyn Jenner was born a man with male body parts and did not identify with those parts or that gender; she is a trans woman.

I was born a woman with female body parts and identify with these parts and this gender; I am a cis woman.

I know about the cis gender label, but like I said earlier it was just a quick post. As far as cis gender, I can understand its use, but I do not like someone telling me what I am and telling me I'm cis gendered man does not describe me.

TheBossInTheWall 09-06-2015 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Roiffalo (Post 999938)
^ Good post, but if this topic were to include every or most gender options... I'd be hella long.

And Boss thought this was a SIMPLE question.

Nay nay.

I definitely know its not simple. :)

Roiffalo 09-06-2015 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 1000116)
I definitely know its not simple. :)

Just pokin' fun at your topic title. ::big grin::

TheBossInTheWall 09-06-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Roiffalo (Post 1000137)
Just pokin' fun at your topic title. ::big grin::

Hah. Wanker. ;)

ChronoGrl 09-08-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 1000115)
I know about the cis gender label, but like I said earlier it was just a quick post. As far as cis gender, I can understand its use, but I do not like someone telling me what I am and telling me I'm cis gendered man does not describe me.

The "cis" label is as common in the discussion as the "trans" label is, so it's really not that unreasonable to request it be included. And you missed the point that by excluding "cis man" then you are insinuating that "trans man" is in opposition to and not "man," which is not true.

Also, if you read my post as me "telling you what you are"... You're wrong.

Oops. Told you what you are again. ::roll eyes::

TheBossInTheWall 09-08-2015 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChronoGrl (Post 1000215)
The "cis" label is as common in the discussion as the "trans" label is, so it's really not that unreasonable to request it be included. And you missed the point that by excluding "cis man" then you are insinuating that "trans man" is in opposition to and not "man," which is not true.

Also, if you read my post as me "telling you what you are"... You're wrong.

Oops. Told you what you are again. ::roll eyes::

I disagree. Whether or not trans is as important as cis, it is much more in the awareness of the general public than cis. Its not an unreasonable request, but this was just a quickly typed up poll for a passing interest.

Picking one option that I excluded doesn't fit the narrative. There are, as Roifallo posted, many many more genders than the ones I put in the poll. Am I then invalidating all of those genders and insinuating many many many different things? I do not think so.

I do concede it probably would have been better to just ask the question without the poll.

Lastly, there is no need to condescend me.

anglewitch 09-08-2015 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelMyers (Post 999724)
I am a Rastafarian dwarf.

::big grin::

ChronoGrl 09-09-2015 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 1000218)
I disagree. Whether or not trans is as important as cis, it is much more in the awareness of the general public than cis. Its not an unreasonable request, but this was just a quickly typed up poll for a passing interest.

Picking one option that I excluded doesn't fit the narrative. There are, as Roifallo posted, many many more genders than the ones I put in the poll. Am I then invalidating all of those genders and insinuating many many many different things? I do not think so.

I do concede it probably would have been better to just ask the question without the poll.

Lastly, there is no need to condescend me.

Not sure you want to bring the word "important" into the discussion - That creates a hierarchy and opens your argument to directions that I'm not sure you intended to or wanted to go. My point was that it commonly exists within the conversation along with gender labels such as "trans."

Lastly, I wasn't condescending, I was matching tone - You accused me of forcing a label on you, which I did not, so I answered in turn. There is no need to be defensive.

Straker 09-10-2015 07:18 AM

I'm a man, with an impressive beard.

Jake.Ashworth 09-10-2015 08:49 AM

I apologize if this ends up being unpopular, but realistically there are only two genders. Everything else is more of a state of mind/mental condition, more than it is a gender. As you can see by the poll, Male and Female are the only real options. The others couldn't really be considered genders, short of the very rare cases in which people are born with both sets, so maybe I would conceit to a third, but only if your born with both not if you surgically had one added.

TheBossInTheWall 09-10-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jake.Ashworth (Post 1000332)
I apologize if this ends up being unpopular, but realistically there are only two genders. Everything else is more of a state of mind/mental condition, more than it is a gender. As you can see by the poll, Male and Female are the only real options. The others couldn't really be considered genders, short of the very rare cases in which people are born with both sets, so maybe I would conceit to a third, but only if your born with both not if you surgically had one added.

You're thinking of sex, not gender. Gender is a social construct whereas sex is formed from our genes. Which is too concise to be a total picture. A person's perspective is, of course, involved. For example: someone born with male sex organs, but feels they are completely a female might consider them selves female regardless of sex organs. Or they might call themselves intersexed(dash?). Or intersexed might mean to someone they were born with both male and female sex organs in varying developments, as well as exhibiting varying other physical aspects of female and male. I think the main difference is that gender is something we create ourselves where as sex is tied, but not limited to, genes.

Jake.Ashworth 09-10-2015 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBossInTheWall (Post 1000336)
You're thinking of sex, not gender. Gender is a social construct whereas sex is formed from our genes. Which is too concise to be a total picture. A person's perspective is, of course, involved. For example: someone born with male sex organs, but feels they are completely a female might consider them selves female regardless of sex organs. Or they might call themselves intersexed(dash?). Or intersexed might mean to someone they were born with both male and female sex organs in varying developments, as well as exhibiting varying other physical aspects of female and male. I think the main difference is that gender is something we create ourselves where as sex is tied, but not limited to, genes.

This is just a quick grab from a scientific web site.

Biological Gender (sex) includes physical attributes such as external genitalia, sex chromosomes, gonads, sex hormones, and internal reproductive structures. At birth, it is used to assign sex, that is, to identify individuals as male or female.

By that standard, Gender determines sex based on these things, you are either male or female unless a genetic deformation occurs in the womb at which point there is an option C. But everything beyond option C is just a made up construct in a persons mind. All of this gender confusion is an unfortunate side effect of the way society has backed away from the standard "male" and "female" roles, out of fear of offending people. Everything beyond option C only exists out of political correctness and the fear of offending others. The more we back away from the standards that brought our race to where it is today, the more our children will become confused about their identities. If you tell a child they can be a unicorn if they want to be, most will choose to be a unicorn, but alas, they are not a unicorn. Gender is not a choice, it is given to us in our genetic make up.


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