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DiagonalATC 02-05-2015 06:03 AM

Do Horror Movies Create Serial Killers?
 
With so many disturbing copycat killers hitting headlines in the past three decades, is there a case against horror movies in the debate over media and violence in real life? Alltime Conspiracies investigates.
::shocked::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62zyvy6LCQ

anglewitch 02-05-2015 06:11 AM

Depends on if a mans mind can take the horror of the film. Those who think its for real slowly go down the road of insanity. psychology is not my thing though.

vampyd1977 02-05-2015 06:54 AM

no i dont think so, can they take insparation from them?...yes probably, but a damaged mind could do the same from fluffy clouds lol. on a serious note people have been commiting mass murder for thousands of years for millions of reasons so i think every single case has to be taken on its own merits.

anglewitch 02-05-2015 06:57 AM

Remember that incident of that guy who dressed up like the joker went to a bat man movie and mowed down all those people in the theatre.

MichaelMyers 02-05-2015 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 987450)
Remember that incident of that guy who dressed up like the joker went to a bat man movie and mowed down all those people in the theatre.

Yes I do. Christopher Nolan has blood on his hands IMO. Shame on him for keeping the Aurora victims' ticket sales.

tfantasy 02-07-2015 08:05 AM

People have been debating for years about how society effects peoples' minds and I feel that the majority of killers already have a warped mind and that movies, books, or music have nothing to do with it. I think people just want to use society as a scapegoat for a reason on why they kill.

I remember when they tried to blame Ozzy on why younger people were violent or why they were having seances. Whatever, young people are more curious about things than anything else.

It actually made me mad on several occasions when people would just find someone or something to point their fingers at when someone committed a crime. Whatever happened to people just owning up to what they did? Nobody wants to take responsibility for their actions, it's just too easy to blame it all on someone or something else.

Ferox13 02-07-2015 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DiagonalATC (Post 987429)
With so many disturbing copycat killers hitting headlines in the past three decades, is there a case against horror movies in the debate over media and violence in real life? Alltime Conspiracies investigates.
::shocked::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M62zyvy6LCQ

How many examples of copycat killers are there? Links?

Raegan 02-07-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by vampyd1977 (Post 987448)
no i dont think so, can they take insparation from them?...yes probably, but a damaged mind could do the same from fluffy clouds lol. on a serious note people have been commiting mass murder for thousands of years for millions of reasons so i think every single case has to be taken on its own merits.

agreed. half of me thinks hey, looking at at gun can inspire the other half no. Clearly minds don't work the same way. If someone blames music or movies for their horrendous acts, then the seed was all ready there, just needed some water to help grow. So I guess imo, if someone blames the said thing for their wrong doing, it was already there....just needed something to guide them.

Anthropophagus 02-08-2015 12:52 AM

I dont think they create serial killers at all.

Take me for instance,i have only ever killled three people and only ate one of those.I dont think that make me a serial killer at all,the numbers dont stack up.

Monkey Astronaut 02-08-2015 02:01 AM

To be honest I find the notion of horror movies or violent video games causing people to actually commit violent acts to be utterly absurd.

anglewitch 02-08-2015 06:46 AM

Okay how do you explain people killing other people over Grand Theft Auto?

Raegan 02-08-2015 10:26 AM

saying horror movies turn people into serial killers is just as dumb as the two kids that shot themselves back in the day and judas priest was blamed. seriously.

anglewitch 02-08-2015 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raegan (Post 987783)
saying horror movies turn people into serial killers is just as dumb as the two kids that shot themselves back in the day and judas priest was blamed. seriously.

Alright now I am convinced. HOW DARE THEY ACCUSE JUDAS PRIEST!::mad::

Raegan 02-08-2015 10:36 AM

just saying ::cool::

anglewitch 02-08-2015 10:43 AM

::big grin::

MichaelMyers 02-08-2015 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthropophagus (Post 987721)
I dont think they create serial killers at all.

Take me for instance,i have only ever killled three people and only ate one of those.I dont think that make me a serial killer at all,the numbers dont stack up.

I do hope you will turn yourself in. These are serious crimes and these people have families.

anglewitch 02-08-2015 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Raegan (Post 987783)
saying horror movies turn people into serial killers is just as dumb as the two kids that shot themselves back in the day and judas priest was blamed. seriously.

THOSE RUDDY BASTARDS, JUDAS PRIEST SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ACCUSED.

neilold 02-09-2015 04:02 AM

i don't believe they influence to that extent, but horror movies certainly do influence a lot of people short term. How often have you being caught up in the action and said 'go on kill him' without thinking aboout it, or wished bloody vengance for the beaten nerd. Also when we were kids, how often did we pretend to do kung fu after watching a bruce lee film? howevber, i believe these are short term effects and are usually forgotten the next day. although a powerful and disturbing film and scene can stay in your memory for years.

tfantasy 02-09-2015 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthropophagus (Post 987721)
I dont think they create serial killers at all.

Take me for instance,i have only ever killled three people and only ate one of those.I dont think that make me a serial killer at all,the numbers dont stack up.

::danger:: ::big grin::

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Originally Posted by Monkey Astronaut (Post 987726)
To be honest I find the notion of horror movies or violent video games causing people to actually commit violent acts to be utterly absurd.

AGREE!!!!

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 987739)
Okay how do you explain people killing other people over Grand Theft Auto?

STUPID PEOPLE!!

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Originally Posted by neilold (Post 987842)
i don't believe they influence to that extent, but horror movies certainly do influence a lot of people short term. How often have you being caught up in the action and said 'go on kill him' without thinking aboout it, or wished bloody vengance for the beaten nerd. Also when we were kids, how often did we pretend to do kung fu after watching a bruce lee film? howevber, i believe these are short term effects and are usually forgotten the next day. although a powerful and disturbing film and scene can stay in your memory for years.

It's still all about 'thinking' and 'actually doing'; people can have several evil thoughts but it doesn't mean they will actually do anything. I will never believe it has anything to do with movies, music, or video games; it's all about a person's mind. Simple as that.

anglewitch 02-09-2015 05:55 AM

LOVED THAT! STUPID PEOPLE! ::big grin::

Ferox13 02-11-2015 07:31 AM

LOL...fuck that. I just typed out a huge reply that didn't post..

CLIFF NOTES:

No they don't.

MichaelMyers 02-11-2015 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by anglewitch (Post 987450)
Remember that incident of that guy who dressed up like the joker went to a bat man movie and mowed down all those people in the theatre.

Maybe action/adventure movies are to blame? If you think about it very few horror movies feature AK-47s, uzis and the like. Can't say the same for Sin City, Robocop, etc.

anglewitch 02-11-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelMyers (Post 988180)
Maybe action/adventure movies are to blame? If you think about it very few horror movies feature AK-47s, uzis and the like. Can't say the same for Sin City, Robocop, etc.

Maybe your right I retract my last few statements back there.

neilold 02-19-2015 12:53 AM

i look at it this way, horror movies definitely have an influence. Someone said it's all the brain, but its not that simple is it. Nobodys born a killer and yet people do, and this is due to external influences, on the brain. therefore horror movies, along with countless other influences, will take effect. not to say that it will be the thoughts from horror movies that will be purely influential of course, but they could, not are, could, be an influencing factor. Another arguement is 'well they must have being disturbed already. yes, very possibly so, but 'if', and again i use the word 'if' it turns out to be an influence does that excuse it?

of course, there are equally reasoned and valid counter arguements for all these points, and my opinio overall is that it is numerous social, economic, and personal reasons that push people that way

MaryHorrorCrazed 02-19-2015 06:29 AM

No.
What came first chicken or the egg

Curmudgeon1951 02-19-2015 01:36 PM

People blame everything but the person
 
What I have seen with the copycat killers, is that people tend to blame everything except the person who commits the crime; it is always the gun, the knife, violent video games, guns, etc. Take guns for instance, Every time there is a shooting, some people rush to blame the gun and rant about needing gun control. They never mention improving mental health care, they never seem to understand that some people are just plain evil.

neilold 02-20-2015 12:57 AM

yes they are, but is putting a gun in the hands of these people a sensible thing to do?

tfantasy 02-21-2015 03:54 AM

Guns aren't just given to people with mental health issues, they get them by other means. I am a gun owner and I can go on for a long time with this subject.

People kill people, it's as simple as that. It's not the fault of weapons, tv, society, etc. People don't take responsibility for their actions, instead they blame everything on some one or some thing else. It's been like that throughout history.

Time for a new thread......

NightOfTheLiving_Sam 02-21-2015 05:24 PM

No I don't think horror movies create serial killers. I believe serial killers copycat movies though. This has been debated a lot and I think it seriously depends on the person. I've seen so many horror movies in my age cause I enjoy being scared. It's a thrill to me. Some people just take it way too far.

neilold 02-23-2015 03:44 AM

people do kill popeople but the gun is a very efficient way of doing this, that's why armed forces have them. I don't think you can honestly say it is simply down to the gun or the person holding it. It is a mixture of both and circustances that lead to outcomes. I am in the Uk and guncrime here is rare as guns are banned. i do feel it would be higher if they were more readily availlable.

anglewitch 02-23-2015 06:58 PM

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO OUR CRAPPY WORLD!?

neilold 02-24-2015 05:51 AM

If you live in the U.S all i can say is at least you don't live in an expensive rainy, shitty, broken country like i do (the u.k).

anglewitch 02-24-2015 07:52 AM

Yeah I live in the U.S. There isnt really any difference here if that makes you feel better. ::wink::

neilold 02-25-2015 01:32 AM

least you have nice weather, cheap prices and everything isn't done on the cheap like over here

Baron Von Marlon 03-01-2015 10:03 PM


tfantasy 03-04-2015 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by neilold (Post 989108)
people do kill popeople but the gun is a very efficient way of doing this, that's why armed forces have them. I don't think you can honestly say it is simply down to the gun or the person holding it. It is a mixture of both and circustances that lead to outcomes. I am in the Uk and guncrime here is rare as guns are banned. i do feel it would be higher if they were more readily availlable.

Disagree 100%. Pretty much all of the major cities in the U.S. that ban guns, have the highest crime rates. No matter where you live in this world, there is always a way to find things you need via the black market.

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Originally Posted by neilold (Post 989189)
If you live in the U.S all i can say is at least you don't live in an expensive rainy, shitty, broken country like i do (the u.k).

Actually, have you ever been to Detroit? Chicago? East L.A.? Not every place in the U.S. is a place you want to visit or live in. My husband was stationed in the U.K. and he enjoyed it there.

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Originally Posted by neilold (Post 989308)
least you have nice weather, cheap prices and everything isn't done on the cheap like over here

Washington rains consistently. Cheap prices? Where? You must not have read what a certain president has done to our country.....

I think that whatever country we live in, we are going to find things that we like and don't like about it.

neilold 03-16-2015 01:24 AM

i have to bow down to yourbetter knowledge on your countries gun laws, however i think some of the things i've said about them are true, as is what you say also. Living in the Uk we don't really have a historical gun culture and i know the right to bear arms is also something Americans argue endlessly about. I guess i just don't really see the point of having to own one and use it.

American holidays skiing surfing, las vegas, the great lakes - english shiitty, cold dilapidated seaside towns full of people trying to knife you
American petrol $1 a litre English $5 a litre
Jeans $20 dollar a pair English $80
american movie industry global, English bad richard curtis movies
American military, thousands with latest armaments and vehicles, English, one soldier with a potato gun that doesnt work properly.
Granted we do have a free health serive. I could go on and on, but i think iv'e won this arguement!


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