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_____V_____ 04-25-2014 10:20 AM

And your next Top 100 compilation is...
 
We have pretty much covered all known bases of the horror genre, except for a few. Going through the Compilations when I was doing the image-link updation (for almost all of them), I was struck with 2 separate compilation ideas.

Top 100 Horror Movie Soundtracks

and

Top 100 Non-Horror Films


For the Movie Soundtracks, I doubt if we will have 100 OST albums defining quality, depth and popularity equally in the genre. So it would be better to go with a top 100 list of individual/single soundtracks than entire OST albums. What say?

For the Non-Horrors, all of us have proved time and again that we love all our films (with a particular fondness of horror films, but of course). Yet, as a movie-based website forum (majorly), not having a top 100 non-horror film list is criminal.
For the annals of cinema history is dotted with some superb examples of film making in every other genre - action, fantasy, drama, war, western, adventure, sci-fi, mystery noir, etc. Even musicals have left their mark in cinema history (who can forget that wonderful Singing In The Rain or Mary Poppins?) Don't you think it's high time that we sat down with our collective tastes and chiseled out 100 of the absolute best in cinema as a whole?


So HDC, which shall it be?

Or shall we pursue both?

Despare 04-25-2014 10:32 AM

I'm down for either but I prefer music, I think it would be harder for me to try and peg down even my favorite 100 non-horrors let alone rank them. I'd try like hell though...

_____V_____ 04-25-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Despare (Post 967947)
I'm down for either but I prefer music, I think it would be harder for me to try and peg down even my favorite 100 non-horrors let alone rank them. I'd try like hell though...

For that there's a simple solution - break up the non-horror expanse into 10 defining genres, and pick off Top 10 for each of them - and voila, we have our 100.

I am thinking:

Action/Crime/Thriller
Adventure/Fantasy
Drama/Family/Sport
Film-Noir/Mystery
Comedy
Musical
Romance
Sci-Fi
Western
War/History/Biography

Animated films are dotted in every other genre so shouldn't be hard to spot the best ones out of the lot. For example, Wall-E would definitely be in my Sci-Fi Top 10.

Midnight here and bedtime for me. Be back in about 8-9 hours.

hammerfan 04-25-2014 10:50 AM

I like the non-horror top 100.

totem 04-25-2014 11:52 AM

You could easily spread the genres out into 20 categories and include hybrids like Romantic Comedies as well as subgroups like Noir & Psychological Thrillers into their own grouping. Then just do a top 5 for each.

For example, I think it would be odd to see When Harry Met Sally in the same top 10 as The Notebook. Though both are Romance, neither is a similar experience.

It's just a thought. ::embarrassment::

Straker 04-25-2014 04:03 PM

Both sound like they would be a blast. ::cool::

Angra 04-25-2014 05:21 PM

Horror Boobies Top 100.

That's a winner.

Sculpt 04-25-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 967946)
We have pretty much covered all known bases of the horror genre, except for a few. Going through the Compilations when I was doing the image-link updation (for almost all of them), I was struck with 2 separate compilation ideas.

Top 100 Horror Movie Soundtracks

and

Top 100 Non-Horror Films

For the Movie Soundtracks, I doubt if we will have 100 OST albums defining quality, depth and popularity equally in the genre. So it would be better to go with a top 100 list of individual/single soundtracks than entire OST albums. What say?

For the Non-Horrors, all of us have proved time and again that we love all our films (with a particular fondness of horror films, but of course). Yet, as a movie-based website forum (majorly), not having a top 100 non-horror film list is criminal.
For the annals of cinema history is dotted with some superb examples of film making in every other genre - action, fantasy, drama, war, western, adventure, sci-fi, mystery noir, etc. Even musicals have left their mark in cinema history (who can forget that wonderful Singing In The Rain or Mary Poppins?) Don't you think it's high time that we sat down with our collective tastes and chiseled out 100 of the absolute best in cinema as a whole?

So HDC, which shall it be?

Or shall we pursue both?

Love the idea, V! As is sometimes the case ::wink::... I want to make sure I (and everyone else) understand what you're talking about. You wrote, "For the Movie Soundtracks, I doubt if we will have 100 OST albums defining quality, depth and popularity equally in the genre. So it would be better to go with a top 100 list of individual/single soundtracks than entire OST albums."

Defining/Requirements for "single track":
(For others reading this, "OST" is Original Sound Track.) When you say, "better to go with a top 100 list of individual/single soundtracks than entire OST albums", you mean single tracks that appear on a Movie Soundtrack Album, right? And so, three examples of this would be:
  • 1. Movie Theme Song: "Original Halloween Theme" from Halloween
  • 2. Song "Sung" in Film: "Sacred Springs" from Mothra vs. Godzilla
  • 3. Film Score/Background Music/Incidental Music: "The Murder" from Psycho
  • 4. (wouldn't recommend) Commercial Song on Soundtrack, a Song Clip Heard in Film: "Partytime" from Return of the Living Dead

Which types should we include?

I would suggest only the first three types be included because, a commercial song from a soundtrack (often a track from a regular commercial music album, as in the case of "Partytime"), is a rather separate entity from the film, sometimes only plays a couple seconds in the film, and sometimes is not heard in the film at all. I think any piece of music from a film really needs to be specifically bound to it.


Compilations?: Horror Film or Non-Horror Film or All Film:
I think the amount of single tracks for a Horror Film music compilation is likely more massive than you might imagine (the 3 examples above). I would recommend restricting to just Horror films. After that's completed, a Non-Horror could be attempted, and would be vast amount of material (imagine multiple single tracks for every film).

newb 04-25-2014 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 967949)
I like the non-horror top 100.

yeah.....me like too

newb 04-25-2014 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angra (Post 967963)
Horror Boobies Top 100.

That's a winner.

yeah...me like to

_____V_____ 04-25-2014 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by totem (Post 967950)
You could easily spread the genres out into 20 categories and include hybrids like Romantic Comedies as well as subgroups like Noir & Psychological Thrillers into their own grouping. Then just do a top 5 for each.

For example, I think it would be odd to see When Harry Met Sally in the same top 10 as The Notebook. Though both are Romance, neither is a similar experience.

It's just a thought. ::embarrassment::

Would make things more confusing and complicated. Keeping stuff simple would be the way to go.

IMDB serves as the base of all compilations. If both movies are listed under Romance, they go under Romance.

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 967963)
Horror Boobies Top 100.

That's a winner.

Rank #1 would go to the hairy, man-boobs of HDC's resident Viking. ::big grin::

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 967966)
When you say, "better to go with a top 100 list of individual/single soundtracks than entire OST albums", you mean single tracks that appear on a Movie Soundtrack Album, right?

I would suggest only the first three types be included because, a commercial song from a soundtrack (often a track from a regular commercial music album, as in the case of "Partytime"), is a rather separate entity from the film, sometimes only plays a couple seconds in the film, and sometimes is not heard in the film at all. I think any piece of music from a film really needs to be specifically bound to it.

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 967966)
Compilations?: Horror Film or Non-Horror Film or All Film:
I think the amount of single tracks for a Horror Film music compilation is likely more massive than you might imagine (the 3 examples above). I would recommend restricting to just Horror films. After that's completed, a Non-Horror could be attempted, and would be vast amount of material (imagine multiple single tracks for every film).

Confusion again. The Non-Horror Top 100 would be of films, not soundtracks.

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Here's my take - it would be sort of criminal to do the Movie Soundtracks without Neverending's inputs. Agreed that all of us could do it on our own and finish with a damn fine job, but that grumpster has been a part of all compilations till now, and I would rather have him aboard for this one. As it stands, I have started work on this so it stays postponed till he returns. What say?

Majority are in favor of the Non-Horror Top 100 so let's start on that. We start work tomorrow but be warned - choosing can be a tough ask. Better tighten those waist belts!

Angra 04-26-2014 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 967986)


Rank #1 would go to the hairy, man-boobs of HDC's resident Viking. ::big grin::


Well, if you like 'em flat chested and muscular then... sure, why the hell not. ::cool::

The Villain 04-26-2014 03:44 AM

I like the non horror top 100 best

Elvis_Christ 04-26-2014 07:30 PM

Both sound like great ideas to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 967966)
I would suggest only the first three types be included because, a commercial song from a soundtrack (often a track from a regular commercial music album, as in the case of "Partytime"), is a rather separate entity from the film, sometimes only plays a couple seconds in the film, and sometimes is not heard in the film at all. I think any piece of music from a film really needs to be specifically bound to it.

Partytime is prominent in Return of the Living Dead along with the majority of the soundtrack. It wouldn't be the same film without it.

_____V_____ 04-26-2014 09:27 PM

Been doing some thinking.

Instead of dividing the non-horror films into specific genres to ensure equal representation in the final 100, it would be better to go for 100 of the absolute best, regardless of genres.

Like totem said earlier, most films criss-cross through genres, so specific/pure genre films could be hard to find.
Also, if we sit down to choose (for example) 10 of the best musicals but could come up with only 7-8, and had to insert 2-3 average/mediocre ones at the cost of an excellent action or sci-fi film, it would be grave injustice.

So, how do we start?

Let's start by listing our top 20 non-horror films. Non-horror means the film should not be a horror film, nor a murder-mystery, surreal, etc. IMDB serves as an excellent base to distinguish this but even they have some tagged mistakes - Silence of the Lambs, Oldboy, Donnie Darko, heck even Predator is not marked under horror!

So, keeping out the obvious ones, send me your chosen Top 20 Non-horror films via PM, or you can email me at [email protected] as well.

Non-horror genres:

Action/Crime/Thriller,
War/History/Biography,
Drama/Family/Sport,
Fantasy/Adventure,
Mystery/Film-Noir,
Musical,
Comedy,
Romance,
Sci-Fi,
Western,
Animation,
Documentary/Short.

Please don't post your Top 20 in this thread.

metternich1815 04-26-2014 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 968037)
Been doing some thinking.

Instead of dividing the non-horror films into specific genres to ensure equal representation in the final 100, it would be better to go for 100 of the absolute best, regardless of genres.

Like totem said earlier, most films criss-cross through genres, so specific/pure genre films could be hard to find.
Also, if we sit down to choose (for example) 10 of the best musicals but could come up with only 7-8, and had to insert 2-3 average/mediocre ones at the cost of an excellent action or sci-fi film, it would be grave injustice.

So, how do we start?

Let's start by listing our top 20 non-horror films. Non-horror means the film should not be a horror film, nor a murder-mystery, surreal, etc. IMDB serves as an excellent base to distinguish this but even they have some tagged mistakes - Silence of the Lambs, Oldboy, Donnie Darko, heck even Predator is not marked under horror!

So, keeping out the obvious ones, send me your chosen Top 20 Non-horror films via PM, or you can email me at [email protected] as well.

Non-horror genres:

Action/Crime/Thriller,
War/History/Biography,
Drama/Family/Sport,
Fantasy/Adventure,
Mystery/Film-Noir,
Musical,
Comedy,
Romance,
Sci-Fi,
Western,
Animation,
Documentary/Short.

Please don't post your Top 20 in this thread.

If a film is a science fiction, for example, that happens to be a horror movie, like Alien (1979), it cannot be included, correct? Also, Donnie Darko is grouped under horror as well?

Sculpt 04-26-2014 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 968035)
Both sound like great ideas to me.

Partytime is prominent in Return of the Living Dead along with the majority of the soundtrack. It wouldn't be the same film without it.

I heartily agree, Elvis. Return the Living Dead was one of the best Horror films from the 80's, the punk songs gave the setting and scenes a "sense of punk", if you will - and that's why I chose it. I wanted an example most would know and appreciate -- and know upfront what we'd get with Type 4, and what we'd lose. For compilation/tournies, parameters have to be set, but one also makes adjustments/allowances that contribute to the goal. Maybe a punk song from RTLD would be appropriate as a standard, or an exception; part of those grey areas that come up.

_____V_____ 04-26-2014 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by metternich1815 (Post 968039)
If a film is a science fiction, for example, that happens to be a horror movie, like Alien (1979), it cannot be included, correct? Also, Donnie Darko is grouped under horror as well?

Yes, correct. Alien cannot be included, and neither can any horror film criss-crossing genres.

Yep, Donnie Darko is surreal fantasy horror.

metternich1815 04-26-2014 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 968043)
Yes, correct. Alien cannot be included, and neither can any horror film criss-crossing genres.

Yep, Donnie Darko is surreal fantasy horror.

Makes sense.

Yeah, wasn't sure. I have seen it classified in different ways.

Sculpt 04-26-2014 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 968043)
Yes, correct. Alien cannot be included, and neither can any horror film criss-crossing genres.

Yep, Donnie Darko is surreal fantasy horror.

Oh! Glad I read this first. If I had to bet a $100 on which you meant, I would have bet you meant keep out the obvious Horror films, but we're allowing films that are half or more one of another genre.

For instance, if I worked at a movie store, and had to choose only between Sci-fi or Horror for Alien, most decidedly and without hesitation, I'd put it in Sci-fi. And I'd put Young Frankenstein in Comedy.

May I make the suggestion that we not include any obvious core and "over half" Horror. And we include films we discern to be core or mostly another genre, that may contain Horror elements. Then you can simply exclude the handful of films that popup. You can leave them alone, or you can offer them up for a vote.

metternich1815 04-26-2014 10:56 PM

Just sent in my top 20. It was hard on two levels. First, not including any horror movies as there have been so many great ones that it felt weird not including them. Second, there were so many good films. I also learned that there are many classic films that I have yet to see and I always considered myself a big film person. I assume there will there be another thread for this compilation?

_____V_____ 04-26-2014 11:03 PM

Anything remotely associated with Horror is to be kept out.

We shall use this thread for any/all discussions and debates on the same, as soon as I am done receiving the entries. Since it won't be as vast as the 100 Years of Horror compilation, discussions and debates will be considerably short in comparison to that one.

And I have received the first entry - from metternich1815. All good choices.

metternich1815 04-26-2014 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 968048)
Anything remotely associated with Horror is to be kept out.

We shall use this thread for any/all discussions and debates on the same, as soon as I am done receiving the entries. Since it won't be as vast as the 100 Years of Horror compilation, discussions and debates will be considerably short in comparison to that one.

And I have received the first entry - from metternich1815. All good choices.

Okay, that's cool. I did not know if you were going to create a separate thread with the compilation, but that works too since this thread is already going and that is true.

_____V_____ 04-27-2014 06:02 AM

3 entries in so far - added my Top 20 films, and received a fine list from The Villain.

I expect no less than 20 entries at least, folks. Get working on yours!

Straker 04-27-2014 07:42 AM

I'll get on this, but will take at least a few days, top 20 non-horror of all time will be tough.

_____V_____ 04-27-2014 08:08 PM

Take your time, bud.

Received the 4th list of choices from Fearonsarms. Some mighty fine choices in there as well.

Freak 04-27-2014 10:17 PM

Are we doing just the non horror movies now? Cause it would be hard for me to come up with music selections.

hammerfan 04-28-2014 03:46 AM

Sorry, V, forgot all about this! I'll work on mine tonight.

realdealblues 04-28-2014 05:05 AM

Sounds fun...I'll work on my 20 today.

_____V_____ 04-28-2014 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Freak (Post 968125)
Are we doing just the non horror movies now? Cause it would be hard for me to come up with music selections.

Yes. Soundtracks compilation is postponed for now.

No bound for genres for your non-horror Top 20. Even if all 20 of them are action films, no problem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammerfan (Post 968138)
Sorry, V, forgot all about this! I'll work on mine tonight.

Take your time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by realdealblues (Post 968142)
Sounds fun...I'll work on my 20 today.

Looking forward to seeing your list.

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Received 2 more lists - 5th and 6th entry - from natedog722 and Sculpt.

_____V_____ 04-28-2014 07:44 PM

The entry count has risen up to ELEVEN.

Thanks to realdealblues, newb, Despare, totem and hammerfan for submitting.

I expect at least NINE more. Get at it, people!

roshiq 04-28-2014 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 967946)
Top 100 Horror Movie Soundtracks

and

Top 100 Non-Horror Films

Love both the idea. I'd like to take some time for my Top 20 but hopefully I can finish my listing within coming weekend.

Btw, just for future consideration I think a compilation of 100 Greatest Horror movie settings also be a cool idea.

_____V_____ 04-29-2014 08:04 PM

The count has risen to TWELVE now - with a delectable list of 20 films sent in by Straker.

More, people! Feed me more!

_____V_____ 05-01-2014 10:36 AM

Count has risen to THIRTEEN now - thanks to roshiq for submitting his 20.

Elvis_Christ 05-02-2014 09:21 PM

Does the list need to be ranked?

Sculpt 05-02-2014 09:46 PM

No, just your top 20 non-horror films in any order. PM to __V__.

metternich1815 05-02-2014 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 968472)
No, just your top 20 non-horror film in any order. PM to __V__.

I did not know that. I sent my ranked list to V. I guess it does not really matter.

Sculpt 05-02-2014 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by metternich1815 (Post 968473)
I did not know that. I sent my ranked list to V. I guess it does not really matter.

Remember when we were submitting films for each decade? Following V's normal MO, it's just 20 in any order.

_____V_____ 05-02-2014 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 968470)
Does the list need to be ranked?

Not necessarily. Just 20 will do.

metternich1815 05-03-2014 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 968476)
Remember when we were submitting films for each decade? Following V's normal MO, it's just 20 in any order.

I sent a ranked list then too...lol.


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