9 months into The Office and counting...
 

...and has Obama been upto the huge...no wait, scratch that...MONUMENTAL expectations of the American public so far?

I have been hearing from some of my other American friends who were telling me how they have to work longer hours now, and how welfare people are having the time of their lives these days.

So whats the real story of the working class American today? And what is his/her opinion of Obama?

Obama is terrible, but this forum is primarily liberal so i'm sure i'll get obliterated for that, even though, last time I checked, this country still has freedom of speech.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, Posh. Just keep that in mind when I disagree with you about something. Like now. I STILL support President Obama, and would vote for him all over again. Monumental isn't even enough to describe the mess he has to get this country out of. And, along with that, try and get his own agenda going and keep his campaign promises.

Didn't he inherit most of the mess though?

Are we really expecting Obama to have changed everything in 9 months??
Does anybody have any idea how much shit that man has to shovel??

I think the changes to the environmental avenues have been amazing.
Bush had us fucked and 30 years behind, I think he had a death wish or something.

The cuts in education are deep but as we are slowly finding out there was an incredible amount of mismanagement of funds.

He will do fine.
The economy will bounce back, maybe not as fast as some would hope.
Change is painful.
Especially from all the damage from past government.
But who really cares, people that hate Obama will find fault no matter what.

Bit like Gordon Brown.

Although he's a fat, Scottish waste of space with the charisma of a Cucumber, so he should be voted out anyway.

You got that right!

I just want my pony.

Ask me this question when he does something. He some good ideas, and some horrible ideas, but so far he's easy to overlook (not counting his speeches, talk shows, town halls, late night shows, etc...).


"The economy will bounce back, maybe not as fast as some would hope."

No shit, look at economic trends since the birth of the US, it's happened before and it WILL happen again.

yep.


dont expect people to think that clearly though

Actually, a lot of the mess was caused by Clinton and ACORN strongarming banks into giving low income loans to people for houses. Clinton had the highest rate of homeownership in a long time during his term and in turn, the banks collapsed.

Thanks for pointing this out. Everyone blames Bush for LITERALLY everything that could have possibly gone wrong in this country, when Clinton caused his fair share. I'm not a huge Bush fan either, but you can't blame him for everything like people try to.

what gets me is people blaming Obama for unemployment and the economy. a buddy of mine is an economics doctoral student and he was explaining to me that there was no way to stop the economy from going down the crapper but what Obama (and in fairness Bush in his last days) did do was stop things from spiraling out of control. the way my buddy tells it we were about one week away from a total and apocalyptic financial meltdown where all the banks were going to go bankrupt and we'd have had a Great Depression scenario. the bank bailout and even the automobile loans let thing stabilize. it will take time for the jobs and stuff to get back to normal but we could have had real anarchy in the streets if they hadn't done something big and fast.

I'm going to keep this short and sweet. bring on real anarchy, fuck liberals, fuck bush, and fuck obama too.

or bring back physical currency at the very least.

Sorry, not total anarchy, I'm more of an anarcho-capitalist.

There's only so much any president can do about the economy. That said I think the auto bailout/takeover was terrible and the stimulus was a huge waste.

News came recently that here in England things are slowly getting better on the economic front.

Any news of the same ilk in America?

It really doesn't matter.

Look baby
Read the ant and the grasshopper story and you got what we got in AMEERIKAA


I just divorced, I have no REAL fucking money, I have no fucking job. But I have mutual funds, IRA roth -IRA accounts,money market accounts etc etc which I made sure were MINE in the divorce papers. I have real estate.

I don't have that much coming in monthly after mercedes shithead took me to the cleaners BUT I budget, I buy sale, I buy used and I make it month to month.
I make it.
And when the little one goes to school- I get a job at fucking Mickey D's, I babysit, I fucking mow lawns if I have too and save that mother fucking money like mad.

And I get by and I actually save.

But back to the ant story...work your ass off and you will be ok-no matter what.
STOP living beyond your means fucking America-pay your fucking credit debt down assholes.
Stop living paycheck to paycheck and stop buying FUCKING STARBUCK COFFEE (which I love, but will sacrifice) for gods sake.
You save over $1000 a year if you brew your fucking OWN.



...*RANT OVER*...:)

Now THAT I can get behind, buy what you can pay for, the government isn't there to help you pay your bills.

I second what he's seconding.

I must be saving a bundle because I don't drink coffee at all.