What KILLS a horror film?
 

for you, what kills a horror pic? too much gore, not enough suspense, too much humor or sex???

Your constant ramblings......

why can't you be serious? it's serious question...we're here to talk horror, right?

Absolutely not! We are here to Explore.

Shitty CGI. That'll do it every time, along with ridiculous, formulaic predictability. That in itself has been the demise of most

things that kill horror movies :

- the MPAA
- having kids in em and not having them die while adults get butchered left and right
- having emotionless army guys and too much guns in it

The movie playing in "fast-forward" with circus music....

Cocky bitches with attitude who can deal emotionally with the monster chasing them. Like that whore in Jason Vs Freddy. Let me tell you if she lived and fucked freddy up i would have hated the movie. Fucking Cunt. The Bitch Must Die....or at least be scared shitless

A terrible and pointless ending which ruins the whole film.

:confused: That sounded sexist.

Anyhow, I hate any and ALL CGI. That is why I rarely watch new movies.

Any movie with Terry O'Quinn in it.:p ........only kidding SFF...don't go off on me.

Weak plot

I'll agree with the bad CGI , but if its done right [LOTR ] it can be very nice.

Pretty much any movie with a number after the title. i.e. part 2, part 3, part 10 whatever.

Same for remakes ,but I have to say I did enjoy the new TCM

No nudity. We need more boobs.

hmm april fools is over...gotta change my avatar

LOL Well, you're a heterosexual guy, so that is expected.

Oh, and we need more naked men in horror movies. I'm sick to death of looking at nude women. They really need to think about the female audiance sometimes. Hey!! I need to start making some movies of my own!!!!! LOL

You must like 28 days later then. Dear god, it was almost too much. Almost a full minute of a pale, unshaven naked englishman. Full frontal.


Actually, some to think of it, Darth Bane probably likes that one too.

Well, not just any old naked guy will do. He has to be hot, ya know. I have not seen 28 Days later, judging from what you have just described, I think it is fair to say that I will pass on that one. LOL

It wasnt meant to sound sexist. Any horror movie where The character isnt scared when the monster is coming after them. Not only not scared but developes a MY shit dont stink attitude. Some of you may ask what about Ash? Well i think Ash was terrified. So terrified that he went insane. Its from his sanity that he was able to come up with all those witty comments we know and love. Kristy Cotton is a good example of a female character who though scared still basically told pinhead to shut the fuck up. It still seems real in these instances. I guess thats what I was trying to say the first time around. The bad ass attitude that betrays and goes beyond any sane persons ability to cope in a horrifying situation is too fake. The Bitch in Freddy Vs Jason is just the incident that gets to me the most. Sorry for any misunderstanding:)

Bad CGI will instantly ruin a horror movie, when used right - like in house on haunted hill - in can be very effective, but more often than not it just looks like arse (who can forgive the caterpillar in FvJ?).

And I also agree with MarylandPsycho, few things are more irritating than the girl who can deal with anything, Freddy vs Jason would have been a whole lot better if that girl had died - horribly.

Rappers or any other musicans in a horror movie

Bad acting

OK, I see what you mean now. Yes, the girl from Freddy VS Jason was irritating, to say the least. I thought Ashley Laurence from Hellraiser gave a good female against monsters performance.

The tired old stereotypes used to "teach" morals to kids. All the "smoke a joint/have sex, or shower scenes/ drink = Death, or atleast being killed of quicker. For yet another rehash of these same, tired ideas, see the new TCM with the invincible virgin surviving, and OWNING:rolleyes: , leatherface with all here moral purity and innocense:rolleyes:

. . . I was going to see the new one, but now, I think not. I wanted Leatherface to slash the screaming bitch in the original, but now there's a SuperVirgin! and she doesn't die? What in God's name is that?

Anyways, alot of emotional scenes like, "Oh Johnny, don't go into the house! It looks creepy!" "It'll be alright, Jane!" "Oh Johnny, I love you . . " "Oh Jane, Jane!" [insert passionate kiss] and then they get like, slashed or something. That's just stupid.

Oh man, its worse than you can possibly imagine. She actually gets away from him 3 times by laying on her back and kicking her feet at him, which ofcourse causes him to swing the chainsaw in a different direction:rolleyes: I wont "spoil" it for you, but lets just say by the end of the movie our good friend Leather gets it a good deal worse than that from the immortal seventh heaven star:mad:

I just wanted to say, once again, that CGI SUCKS!!!! I hate it with a passion. CGI is what made "The Hulk" a total flop!!! Sorry, but some fucking computer animation is no replacement for Lou Ferrigno!!! What is the point of making a horror film if you are too damned lazy to use prosthetics for your FX? They need to keep CGI the fuck out of movies. I'm sick of it, it looks stupid and fake, no matter how much money they spend on it. I think that a great deal of creativity is lost when filmmakers start employing the services of digital effects.

Bad acting and cheesy romance and exception to romance is Ash and Linda that was ok.

Gore cut out, i know people say its worst to not see gore but imagine it but i would rather gore.A exception to the gore rule, TCM original.

What Kills a Horror Film?
 

Definitely I agree with bad CGI, annoying characters (for me, the ultimate example of this was in The Lost Boys), and stupid decisions on the part of the filmmaking team. Someone mentioned morals / moral lessons, and I'd have to agree only in situations where this is enforced through any kind of religion. Religious horror films usually turn me off.

I always cringed through the "God" discussion in Poltergeist... It was sweet and everything, but it was used to give the film an 'acceptable' mainstream balance. It should have been used exploitingly. More characters should have died, especially the little girl. I have to say this because that's how it was written in this original script. Given the choice to kill 1 family member, the writers chose Carol-Anne. And I think it was wrong to change the story.

Another thing that ruins a horror movie for me, the viewing experience at least: Now I've got nothing against nudity in horror movies, nor am I the least bit ashamed of my body, but I can't watch a horror movie with some stupid rowdy guy in the room talking about tits and boobs and naked women. It's very annoying and just plain lowers the general intelligence of the whole room. I simply refuse to watch horror movies with chauvenists, or people drinking and getting high. Even if it's just us girls.

More Naked Men
 

A-fucking-men to that! I personally, am not sick of women, but I do think you have every right to be. It seems too frequently that only the closed minded are getting served in that department.

I don't need a quota of nude men, but I'd settle for a lot more topless scenes- also closer shots of attractive actors of all shapes, sizes, and colors in tighter clothes, butt-hugging jeans, see-through underwear; as well as more exploitative shots of muscles, skin, pecs, bulges. Hey, the MEN had their turn. And they've enjoyed their reign. When are the women finally going to get their piece of the action? :o

Girls could spend more money on horror, thereby getting proper consideration when it comes to what we want to see- except that horror isn't showing barely enough male skin, but still plenty of ladyflesh. So, how is horror ever supposed to change? As it stands, I guess most people don't think it needs to. But this wouldn't be a dramatic change. It would only be fair.

Romance and Drama...There are already genres for that

I myself prefer to see HORROR in my Horror movies

I also feel that nudity and sex in horror movies is out of place...What has it to do with "horror"?...I have never been scared by a boob or a bare ass in my entire life...I want to hear screaming, not moaning...and, this too already has it's own genre...If I want to see nudity and sex, I will watch a porno (never happen):rolleyes:

It is possible to make a good horror movie without the romance, drama, nudity and sex...Trust me...It can be and HAS been done:)

How about : If it was made post-80's...?

The whole nudity concept comes into play to make the person feel vulnerable. I mean 9 times out of 10 when your naked your safe. The 1 time your not safe is the time some chainsaw wielding maniac is standing right behind you. I think all horror, good horror in particulars main goal is to make the viewer feel that all is not as it appears. Even at our safest ( in a church ) or most enjoyable( wild animal sex) moment something can go wrong. Yes a pretty bed of flowers might exist but so does the flesh devouring monster that rests just below their pretty petals

Well, I agree that there is too much sex in horror movies, but then it all depends on how it's injected into the storyline. To be done right, it needs to seem like a natural occurrence, and not the least bit gratuitous.

I think CGI can be good if done effectively, such as Lord of the Rings. But i agree with the whole Hulk issue. A waste of a great comic character. I hate Ang Lee!

Poltergeist...It...The Shining...Pet Sematary...Cujo...Phantasm...Actually I could do them in alphabetical order...Arachnaphobia...Blair Witch...Child's Play...Day Of The Dead...It would be oh so easy to keep going:)

I noticed a few people saying about the old moral in horror movies like if you smoke you die, if you have sex you die.All those moral in horror movies are over exagerated, Alice in Friday the 13th (original) she played strip poker (all though she didnt get naked) and she survived.In the original TCM when did it ever state that Sally was a virgin and didnt drink?Neva Cambel slept with someone with Scream and she survived 3 films.

To be truthful i cant think of one horror movie when the rules and morals are used, not just refered to used.

- annoying teenagers.
if Kirsty or Nancy kicks some bad guys ass, it's ok, but the teenagers today, like those bastards in FvJ, they just should be slaugtered

- Bad music choices.
instrumantal works allways. the mood is totally ruined, when they start playing Marilyn Manson and Korn in the background

I have. Oh my god have I. . .*crrriinnggee!*

But that was in my own life. I haven't been scared by an on-screen nude scene. And as for porn in horror? Whore and gore, I adore them both. But if you're going to have characters having sex, have them die, too. Particularly in the middle of "the act". That would be great. Here is Bobby, finally getting some from SuperVirgin! Susie . . . and mister murder man comes with his axe and he takes a big chunk of of Susie's head. And Bobby didn't even reach peak!

Yuuummm.

actually, that does happen in one of the friday the 13th movies, cant remember which one. theyre having sex, the girl is on top, shes completely naked, all in a tent mind you, and the girl gets cut straight in half. excellent scene.

movie with shitty soundtrack and shitty cgi and no nudity and plot holes....and bad endings and oh my god i just saud Jason X

Man, now that you say something, that does sound so familiar. Maybe that's why I thought of it.

HEIL TO NORWAY!!!! MAY ALL YOUR CHURCHES BE SETT AFLAME!!!
THIS IS PURE HOLOCAUST!!!!

Hmmm...
 

My answer would be... the end.

So very often a film will just get a natural pulse to it and you think its going to get better and... pop!

I can recall a few stinkers. I collect B movies, btw. As well as many of the other early silents and talkies that led the genre on film. Much of it really great stuff.

"Horror at Party Beach" ...anybody ever seen it? Heh, heh...