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Roderick Usher 02-27-2009 07:41 AM

Favorite Tough-guy/Crime Films
 
The crime film/tough-guy film genre may not be horror, but it is as similarly linked to the genre as the Spaghetti Western. These films often feature bleak situations, nihilistic behavior, shocking violence and (when we're really lucky) some really great gore.

My wriring partner have dipped our toes into these waters recently and the reaction has been quite positive (more news on that when it is prudent to divulge) and we will be making quite a few more of these films in the future.

Not easily classified, these films vassilate between thriller, drama, caper and revenge flicks, but the tough-guy and crime element always shine through.

Personally I'm quite fond of:

The Getaway
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Straw Dogs
Mean Streets
The Long Good Friday
Resevior Dogs
Eastern Promises
A History of Violence
Taken
Death Wish
Le Cercle Rouge
Youth of the Beast
The Wages of Fear
The Killing
Hard Boiled
The Departed
(I actually liked it better than Infernal Affairs)


What are your favorites?

urgeok2 02-27-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 791391)
The Getaway
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
Straw Dogs
Mean Streets
The Long Good Friday
Resevior Dogs
Eastern Promises
A History of Violence
Taken
Death Wish
Le Cercle Rouge
Youth of the Beast
The Wages of Fear
The Killing
Hard Boiled
The Departed
(I actually liked it better than Infernal Affairs)

What are your favorites?

you listed most of mine (long good friday especially)

i also really like
Scorcerer (friedkin's wages of fear remake)
Thief
the amateur
To Live and Die in LA

Roderick Usher 02-27-2009 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 791397)
you listed most of mine (long good friday especially)

That was the primany inspiration for the tough-guy/crime script we wrote that is getting a lot of heat right now.

Great film.
Bob Hoskins, Helen Mirren, and a very young Pierce Brosnan

Staal 02-27-2009 08:13 AM

Does Alex De Large of Clockwork Orange count?

neverending 02-27-2009 08:19 AM

Well, the classics for me- anything with Cagney, like White Heat
Treasure of Sierra Madre
Dead End
Goodfellas?
Dog Day Afternoon

newb 02-27-2009 08:21 AM

The Outlaw Josey Wales

Sexy Beast

any of the Dirty Harry movies

Rambo

Oldboy

Roderick Usher 02-27-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by neverending (Post 791414)
Well, the classics for me- anything with Cagney, like White Heat
Treasure of Sierra Madre
Dead End
Goodfellas?
Dog Day Afternoon

All solid choices - I wasn't sure wather to include pure gangster flicks in the genre, but you're right - they all belong there

I especially love Treasure of the Sierra Madre

Angra 02-27-2009 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 791391)
The Departed [/B](I actually liked it better than Infernal Affairs)


Ditto


Pusher (danish movie)
Oldboy
The long kiss goodnight (Gina Davis got balls :D)
Die Hard
Last Boyscout

Roderick Usher 02-27-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 791426)
Ditto


Pusher (danish movie)

i haven't seen that one... hmmm

I love The Las Boy Scout and Die Hard, but feel they fall too squarely into the huge, action/comedy vein and are a bit too over-the-top to be considered true "tough-guy" films

Angra 02-27-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 791434)
i haven't seen that one... hmmm

I love The Las Boy Scout and Die Hard, but feel they fall too squarely into the huge, action/comedy vein and are a bit too over-the-top to be considered true "tough-guy" films

Sorry.

I thought the suggestions just had to have serious tough guys in em. My bad.


I'm sure i'll come up with more soon.

Angra 02-27-2009 09:00 AM

Oh yea, got it.

Dog bite dog

newb 02-27-2009 09:02 AM

Rolling Thunder

Billy Jack

Hell Ride

Roderick Usher 02-27-2009 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 791437)
Rolling Thunder

Billy Jack

FUCK, I fogot about those... hell yeah!

@ Angra
Dog Bite Dog? I don't know that one but I loved Man Bites Dog

newb 02-27-2009 09:09 AM

Walking Tall

Angra 02-27-2009 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 791438)
FUCK, I fogot about those... hell yeah!

@ Angra
Dog Bite Dog? I don't know that one but I loved Man Bites Dog


It's asian...

urgeok2 02-27-2009 09:21 AM

taxi driver is kind of an art house version of a tough guy flick

Angra 02-27-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 791434)
i haven't seen that one... hmmm


It's by many people been considered the best movie to come out of Denmark ever.

_____V_____ 02-27-2009 10:40 AM

Point Blank (first tough-guy flick I ever saw)
The Maltese Falcon
Fight Club
Leon The Professional
Scarface
Mad Max
The Road Warrior
The Killer
The Wild Bunch
Bullitt
The French Connection
Commando (among all the Arnie flicks, this is probably the best tough-guy movie)

Angra 02-27-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 791469)
Point Blank (first tough-guy flick I ever saw)


really?

Who was the tough guy?

newb 02-27-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 791477)
really?

Who was the tough guy?

LEE MARVIN

http://www.johnbarber.com/The%2080%2...lee-marvin.jpg

urgeok2 02-27-2009 10:59 AM

Speaking of Lee Marvin :


Prime Cut

Angra 02-27-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 791478)


Sorry, i was mistaking it for "Point break". :o

fortunato 02-27-2009 04:41 PM

Some of my favorites:

The Searchers
The French Connection
Bullitt
The Wild Bunch
Vanishing Point
Die Hard
Easy Rider
Yojimbo/Sanjuro


Definitely Point Blank, too.

The Mothman 02-27-2009 07:21 PM

good thread.
Commando is the ultimate one man army tough guy movie imo.
a couple of my favorites:

Wake Of Death
Cobra
Raw Deal
Payback
Deathwish (1 & 2 in specific.)
Heat
Taken

Elvis_Christ 03-01-2009 03:18 PM

Get Carter (1971) is a favorite of mine. Good to see Point Blank and Thief get a mention great flicks.

Blastfighter deserves to be on a list of top notch tuff guy flicks.

http://www.critcononline.com/images/...s%20front3.jpg

The cover alone could kick your ass :D

The Mothman 03-01-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 791769)
Blastfighter deserves to be on a list of top notch tuff guy flicks.

http://www.critcononline.com/images/...s%20front3.jpg

The cover alone could kick your ass :D

that looks awesome!
you seem to have a pretty good knowledge of these type of movies.

Ferox13 03-02-2009 12:14 AM

Get Carter (Michael Cane is amazing)

Cape Fear

Villian

Point Blank

The 2 Sweeney Films

Performance

Newer stuff:

Sexy Beast

Love Honour and Obey

scouse mac 03-02-2009 09:52 AM

Dirty Harry

LA Takedown

Goodfellas

Oldboy

American History X

Serpico

Carlito's Way

to name but a few

Elvis_Christ 03-02-2009 03:04 PM

Hands Of Steel

http://www.critcononline.com/images/...hs%20front.jpg

Its a decent Terminator knockoff which co-stars John Saxon.

Elvis_Christ 03-04-2009 11:33 PM

Chuck Norris should get a mention:
http://marcusthoughts.files.wordpres...of_silence.jpg

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g9...ilent_rage.jpg

and say what you will about Seagal this flick is fuckin' badass:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71AVEGK3Q4L.gif

Ferox13 03-04-2009 11:38 PM

Agreed - William Forsythe is amazing and the scene in the bar is bad ass..

Did you know the Stick fighter (cues) in that scene is Bruce Lee student Dan Inosanto?

Elvis_Christ 03-04-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 792336)
Agreed - William Forsythe is amazing and the scene in the bar is bad ass..

Did you know the Stick fighter (cues) in that scene is Bruce Lee student Dan Inosanto?

No I didn't know that.

Definitely... William Forsythe is great. So over the top and violent. I love that scene where he drags that women out of the car at the intersection :D

He was pretty cool in Stone Cold aswell.

Roderick Usher 03-06-2009 02:26 PM

looks like my tough-guy film is going to get made:D

Elvis_Christ 03-06-2009 05:03 PM

Solid! Whats it called? Any idea who will be directing? Fred Olen Ray? :)

Roderick Usher 03-06-2009 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 792769)
Solid! Whats it called? Any idea who will be directing? Fred Olen Ray? :)

can't say. yes. no.

roshiq 03-06-2009 07:55 PM

Desperado
Crying Freeman
Army of One aka Joshua Tree
Hard Target

Gladiator and Peter Jackson's King Kong:D

Roderick Usher 03-07-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 792339)

He was pretty cool in Stone Cold aswell.

I wrote an performed a song used in that film (when I was a teenager)

The song didn't make the American cut of the fim, but I still get royalties off the song from Japan and Sweeden so it's in some version of the film somewhere

X¤MurderDoll¤X 03-07-2009 12:58 PM

Truth or Consequences, NM

alkytrio666 03-07-2009 01:52 PM

I'm a sucker for the "Hawksian" hero, the Bogart or Wayne characters of Howard Hawks' noirs and westerns, like:

The Big Sleep
and
Rio Bravo

Of course I'd mention The French Connection, which is actually an unrelenting dissection and destruction of the tough guy- Gene Hackman won the Academy Award for good reason.

I quite like Scorsese's representation of "tough guys", usually becoming catch-22s and redefining themselves constantly. Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, etc.

A lesser known tough guy film which I absolutely adore is Ace in the Hole (aka The Big Carnival). Wilder has never been tougher or meaner, and his use of Kirk Douglas as a womanizing, rough-skinned, canon of a man is extraordinary- maybe the actor's finest role.

Lastly, I have to mention some of Godards criticisms on the tough guy, mainly his protagonist in Breathless who literally molds himself after Bogart. His stubborn masculinity eventually gets him killed, but even in his last dying seconds he keeps his persona.


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