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The Mothman 02-04-2009 02:05 PM

Christian Bale freaks out.
 
I just heard about this today. Thought he was a nice guy, but after listening to this I think the assault charges on him might have been legitimate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRhjBq2kYj4

UngodlyWarlock 02-04-2009 02:28 PM

This is all over the net...
My opinion, not that you asked, is that a lot of people are getting on a bit of a high horse about it. I've never *personally* gone off on someone that long, but I've gotten heated with co-workers where insults were thrown back and forth which were almost as heated.

The only difference is that I am not a celebrity and people weren't recording our exchange.

It's not like he beat the guy on video...and we don't know that guys' story. Maybe he's just a colossal screwup 90% of the time and had it coming. Regardless, I see this as a "bad day", nothing more.

Doesn't affect my opinion of Bale as a person and it doesn't affect how much I enjoy his movies. I'll still watch the Terminator movie.

-D

Disease 02-04-2009 02:33 PM

Because he just ruined the perfect take?

What a wanker, if he was yelling at me like that, no matter what my job on set was I would have told him to "Go fuck yourself.. Trash the lights go for it, your scene was shit anyway, you should be glad I trashed it, you know, maybe you should lay of the caffine.."

alkytrio666 02-04-2009 02:57 PM

I can't believe how many people all over are defending him. The proof's all there. It's ironic that he bitches about professionalism while being just about as unprofessional as one can get.

Christian Bale is a self-righteous, stuck-up prick. He's not a great actor (though he certainly thinks he is) and once he's been permanantly type-cast in action spin-offs the world will gradually realize this.

Angra 02-04-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 786460)
I can't believe how many people all over are defending him. The proof's all there. It's ironic that he bitches about professionalism while being just about as unprofessional as one can get.

Christian Bale is a self-righteous, stuck-up prick. He's not a great actor (though he certainly thinks he is) and once he's been permanantly type-cast in action spin-offs the world will gradually realize this.

Blah...........

UngodlyWarlock 02-04-2009 03:17 PM

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I can't believe how many people all over are defending him. The proof's all there.
Maybe you can base judgment off of a few minutes taken out of context, but I need a bit more than that. The only reason I truly defend him is because we don't know the whole story. If the guy he is screaming at (Which is the director of photography/cinemtographer...not some lowly innocent grip or something) is being a genuine fuck-up, maybe he deserved it. We can at least gather that this isn't the first time, so it's obvious he's at the end of his rope not just flying off for a first offense.

I dunno...Let's see what happens when we film/record you 80-90% of your day since you were a kid. I bet we could find an MP3 SOMEWHERE that showed you being a dick to someone.

What are you a robot? You've never gone off on someone? I definitely have, and I don't consider myself a complete and absolute prick (but that is for another disussion, I guess...hah)

-D

alkytrio666 02-04-2009 03:21 PM

A dick? This screams anger management. What's in question here is Bale's prfessionalism, and he doesn't have it. What else do you need to determine that? In any job- on the set of a movie, in an office, anywhere, THIS is the way NOT to act. It's just pathetic and disrespectful.

There is a way to handle these things- hell, I wouldn't even be so judgemental if he was brief in his flip-out. But the fact is he verbally assaulted this man for nearly five minutes.

So he's an actor- I couldn't give a fuck less. This is just rediculous.

Zero 02-04-2009 03:28 PM

bah - everyone freaks out every once in awhile. i recently told a co-worker - in one of those ridiculous fits of anger - that i was going to rip his spine out and beat him with it. now we all laughed about it aftewards but at the moment, if someone was recording it, i would have sounded like a dangerous psychopath. so i'm not defending bale but just saying you record eveyrthing someone says and you can make them look like a major a--hole

alkytrio666 02-04-2009 04:29 PM

If a normal person in a normal job did what Mr. Bale did right there, they'd be fired instantly.

UngodlyWarlock 02-04-2009 04:40 PM

Sorry, but that isn't true in all lines of work.
I'm not saying what he did was right, mind you, just saying that not all jobs are are the same.

I've already used myself as an example, and my job is fairly "normal".

neverending 02-04-2009 05:36 PM

I couldn't care less what he did at his work site. It's none of my business. My interest in Christian Bale extends only as far as the movie screen.

ChronoGrl 02-04-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 786460)
He's not a great actor (though he certainly thinks he is) and once he's been permanantly type-cast in action spin-offs the world will gradually realize this.

THANK YOU

*hijacks thread and makes out with Alky*

milktoaste 02-04-2009 06:23 PM

That guy was an idiot. He totally deserved to get an ass chewing. From what was screamed, apparently he was walking around checking lights during a take. And doing so while clearly in Bale's view. Yeah sure, bale's not all that great of an actor, which is even more a reason for him to take his job seriously. Especially on such a high dollar/high profile project.
All actors are dicks, that guy should have known better.

The_Return 02-04-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milktoaste (Post 786492)
All actors are dicks

...and fuck you too.

milktoaste 02-04-2009 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 786498)
...and fuck you too.

See what I mean? Take it easy 'Christian', please don't tear down my lights man.

cheebacheeba 02-04-2009 07:55 PM

I think the message was valid, but the extent he went to convey it unnecessary...overly public in it's execution, and would not only have been quite humiliating (not being able to say anything much back at all, on account of higher ups considering the actor of greater importance) but has probably effected this guys career in a negative way when a private word, however "harsh" would have showed a bit more concern for the actual problem, not just to take a chunk out of someone.
Like it was said earlier - There's different ways to approach things...while I can understand why he may have been distressed/angered by this, but I personally don't think it was call for as such; key points being repeated numerous times just to keep the rant rolling.
There's ways to behave, and not...what he did, it's almost like punching the counterhand at a burger joint if your order isn't right.
Just seemed a bit snotnosed of a thing to do.

No, this won't effect my future enjoyment of his films.

bwind22 02-04-2009 09:14 PM

To a certain extent, I can see where Bale is coming from. This guy is getting paid big bucks to perform a job and his job isn't to be distracting the actors in mid-scene. That would be extremely irritating and from some of the things said, it sounds like it's a constant issue with this guy.

Another thing to note is that the video loops just a few seconds over and over and over. The second half of the ass-chewing sounds like Bale is calming down, but the video doesn't show any of that.

Basically, the way I see it, Bale tears this fuck up a new one for about a minute and then starts winding down.

*shrug*

Some people need their asses chewed out sometimes so personally, I don't think this is that big of a deal. Certainly not worthy of the exposure it's getting.

alkytrio666 02-04-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bwind22 (Post 786524)
To a certain extent, I can see where Bale is coming from. This guy is getting paid big bucks to perform a job and his job isn't to be distracting the actors in mid-scene.

Yes, but couldn't it be said that Christian Bale is a man getting paid bigger bucks to perform a job and not to create a feeling of physical and pyschological threat on a set?

bwind22 02-04-2009 11:24 PM

There's no question Bale has an ego but I'm not sure I'd consider that asschewing a physical threat. (Although, if I were the guy getting chewed out, I'd certainly be hoping he'd take a swing at me. Cha-ching!)

As for psychological threat, I can only assume that probably exists for everyone except the top dogs on any set. Piss off the wrong person and you're done, not only on the film but quite possibly in Hollywood. This guy pissed off the wrong person. He's actually lucky Bale didn't get him fired because I'm sure he could have if he pressed the issue.

Bale's getting paid bigger bucks to perform a job that this guy was preventing him from performing. I don't entirely condone the way he handled it, but I can see where he's coming from. For all we know, this could have been an incredibly difficult scene that they'd already shot 30 times that day, then they get it perfect and this numbnuts fucks it up, possibly resulting in another 30 takes before they get it perfect again. It could have been at the tail end of a 16 hour day riddled with this guy fucking things up and Bale finally lost his cool. It happens. No one's perfect, not even Christian Bale.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 02-05-2009 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 786442)
I just heard about this today. Thought he was a nice guy, but after listening to this I think the assault charges on him might have been legitimate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRhjBq2kYj4

I think christian bale's reaction was perfectly reasonable.

The Mothman 02-05-2009 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 786545)
I think christian bale's reaction was perfectly normal.

I think he had the right to get pissed, but not to act like a total bully asshole.

Despare 02-05-2009 03:36 AM

I take all that shit with a grain of salt. As far as the assault, where he was yelling can be assault so yeah, it's easy to believe he raised his voice. This one, well, if somebody interrupted my job (who knows how many times this guy interrupted him) I'd be pissed too. That DP was a pussy though, he should have stood up to Bale, told him his little speech impediment/lisp was retarded and then left. Although I guess he likes must value things like "employment" and "decent" social behavior.

X¤MurderDoll¤X 02-05-2009 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 786546)
I think he had the right to get pissed, but not to act like a total bully asshole.

some people need to be treated exactly like that, it's not bullying. It's called getting things done, changing things you don't like and DEMANDING respect for your time. My personal "button" would be wasting my time. Don't waste my time, I value it pretty highly. How some people can smile as people waste their time out of respect for the person's precious feelings..... beyond me. cry about it on your own time.

I think some people could learn a lot from Christian Bale's tirade.

milktoaste 02-05-2009 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 786556)

I think some people could learn a lot from Christian Bale's tirade.

Ya, maybe this DP wasn't all that great at his job. Even if he was, I bet he's alot better at it now. Some people really just need a good kick in the ass, and that often isn't too pleasent to watch. Smashing the guys lights or actually kicking his ass would have been alittle overboard for 'on the set'. I say he got exactly what he had coming.

newb 02-05-2009 05:31 AM

Apparently its not the first time Bale had told the dude to stay out of the shot.

urgeok2 02-05-2009 05:33 AM

i think it could be handled a hell of a lot better.
That being said - i'm not sure what the guy was saying when he was replying to Bale but it seemed to get him more and more upset.

(Bale isnt terribly articulate is he ?)

if i was Bale i'd have taken him aside the 1st time ... maybe gone off the second time. (you dont go off like this on a first offence)


if i was the other guy i would have admitted blame, apologized and assured him it would never happen again. If Bale had kept going off like that after i did - i'd have punched him in the throat and said "fuck you and this job Batman"

stubbornforgey 02-05-2009 06:51 AM

Christian Bale is of course human and he would lose his temper after what happened, however, he is also in the public eye and under scrutiny with every thing he does..like other actors.
Christian Bale is an idol and role model to thousands of kids out there, especially since his performance as Batman.
Unless this was another publicity stunt to make people aware that Christian Bale is the next Terminator.

Speaking to this guy like he did made me want to slap the fucken smug off his face, talking to this guy like he was a nobody, especially with all that profanity.
Well he is a somebody now..!!!

This reminded me of Russell Crowes outbursts.
Talking down to a mere worker like that... of course would make a couple of mistakes..this guy could lose his job and his livelihood
...lets not forget who put you there in the 1st place you dumb fuck

Roderick Usher 02-05-2009 07:23 AM

You can't justify being a douchebag.

Sure, the DP walked into his eyeline. A simple "Hey asshole, you fucked up my take" would suffice. Bale is just one person - it takes a hundred or so people to make a film and all of them have "important" jobs, but only actors and directors get to act this way without being fired.

Bale acted out like a petulant child with delusions of entitlement.

ferretchucker 02-05-2009 07:29 AM

I don't get how people can say how surprised they are. Unless you're a good friend of Bale's, how can you know what he's like? He may have been in good films and appear nice on public appearances, but everybody puts on a good face when they're being watched by thousands of people. Same with most actors. Maybe he just has a short fuse. Maybe it was a bad day. Maybe he's a total asshole. We don't know. I just think what he did was stupid. It's just a shot. Do another take, jesus christ. If he was developing a cure for AIDS or something and the guy knocked over the test tubes, then maybe.

It hasn't lowered my opinion of his character because I never had one. To me, he's just an actor. I have an opinion of his characters and his acting ability. Nothing else.

alkytrio666 02-05-2009 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 786575)
i think it could be handled a hell of a lot better.
That being said - i'm not sure what the guy was saying when he was replying to Bale but it seemed to get him more and more upset.

(Bale isnt terribly articulate is he ?)

if i was Bale i'd have taken him aside the 1st time ... maybe gone off the second time. (you dont go off like this on a first offence)


if i was the other guy i would have admitted blame, apologized and assured him it would never happen again. If Bale had kept going off like that after i did - i'd have punched him in the throat and said "fuck you and this job Batman"

The DP was saying things like "okay Christian" and "I'm sorry". The other actor was telling him to "walk it off, let's cool down". Bale told everyone to "shut the fuck up" so he could finish his little performance.

hellfire1 02-05-2009 08:04 AM

http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=t...b-c3d1972cd430


Some people have waaay too much time on their hands.

:D

urgeok2 02-05-2009 09:07 AM

pretty damn funny though :)

X¤MurderDoll¤X 02-05-2009 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 786592)
You can't justify being a douchebag.

Sure, the DP walked into his eyeline. A simple "Hey asshole, you fucked up my take" would suffice. Bale is just one person - it takes a hundred or so people to make a film and all of them have "important" jobs, but only actors and directors get to act this way without being fired.

Bale acted out like a petulant child with delusions of entitlement.

it was the second time.

Roderick Usher 02-05-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by X¤MurderDoll¤X (Post 786720)
it was the second time.

doesn't matter if it's the tenth time

I've been on a lot of sets and I've never heard anything like that before

Disease 02-05-2009 03:51 PM

Listen to the lighting guy in the recording though, what a fucking pussy, stand up for yourself man..

Zero 02-05-2009 03:58 PM

hey - you don't stand up to batman

alkytrio666 02-05-2009 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Disease (Post 786752)
Listen to the lighting guy in the recording though, what a fucking pussy, stand up for yourself man..

That's the thing- if he would have spoke up, he probably would have been fired. That's what's so fucked up about the situation. Of course the producers would never fire Bale for fear of upsetting the Terminator fanboys, but what does the DP matter?

Disease 02-05-2009 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 786757)
That's the thing- if he would have spoke up, he probably would have been fired. That's what's so fucked up about the situation. Of course the producers would never fire Bale for fear of upsetting the Terminator fanboys, but what does the DP matter?


Well, I just think he should have, though the money probably means a lot to the guy being yelled at, I've been fired from at least 3 jobs for standing up to the boss... How can he sleep at night... If he had of stood up to him the tape probably wouldn't have got out... Bale probably leeked it himself to inflate his ego even more...

I'm Batman! :D

milktoaste 02-05-2009 04:06 PM

Bill O'Rieily wouldn't take that crap.
http://www.crazyshit.com/cnt/medias/...vs-bill-oreily

Zero 02-05-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alkytrio666 (Post 786757)
That's the thing- if he would have spoke up, he probably would have been fired. That's what's so fucked up about the situation. Of course the producers would never fire Bale for fear of upsetting the Terminator fanboys, but what does the DP matter?

sad state of affairs when 'stars' - who are not committed to their art or craft - are the commodity sold by accountants who have no investment in artistic integrity. i could deal with tempermental assholes if they were pushing envelopes and making masterpieces - but for a likely-to-be-crap sequel to a franchise that should have stopped after T2 i'm not so forgiving


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