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_____V_____ 01-05-2009 09:35 AM

Most underrated games
 
I have been reading up on some of the Top 10 threads (and articles) and it surprises me to see so many people missing out on Clive Barker's Undying.

It was a game which had everything - awesome atmosphere, creepy-as-fuck background score and music, levels which tested the reflexes (and the sanity) to the maximum, and some kickass boss levels which were a bitch to overcome.

Add the spell-casting (I loved the Skullstorm spell, and of course the wonderful Scrye), with the weapons. Ahh...wonderful game! Gonna load it up again sometime soon.

Also, Siren is another which deserves much more recognition than it actually gets in the gaming world. Anyone who has played this one will VOUCH that it literally sweeps you off your feet! Not mentioning the fact that it will make you run for the light and tremble even in day-time while playing.

Any others out there worth a lot more mention than the usual?

Angra 01-05-2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 775561)

Also, Siren is another which deserves much more recognition than it actually gets in the gaming world. Anyone who has played this one will VOUCH that it literally sweeps you off your feet! Not mentioning the fact that it will make you run for the light and tremble even in day-time while playing.



I totally disagree with you on that one, V.

The oh-so-clever gameplay just sucks. You wanna fight the evil you're up against, not run away from it. That was the case with the original Siren.

At least in the new Siren: Blood Curse you get the chance to more or less fight them off. But i still don't appreciate the concept.

The Mothman 01-05-2009 10:32 AM

I completely agree with you on Undying, freakin great game, got great reviews, but still fell under the radar.

VampiricClown 01-05-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 775575)
I totally disagree with you on that one, V.

The oh-so-clever gameplay just sucks. You wanna fight the evil you're up against, not run away from it. That was the case with the original Siren.

At least in the new Siren: Blood Curse you get the chance to more or less fight them off. But i still don't appreciate the concept.

I have to agree with Angra on this one. Siren really wasn't that great of a game. It just didn't hold up in comparison to other survival-horror games.

Clive Barker's: Undying, on the other hand, is a sinfully scary experience. Very good game.

scissorhands 01-05-2009 08:55 PM

A game I've heard very little about, but which impressed me imensely, is Gun. It's an improvement on the overated Grand Theft Auto games. And since it's set in the Wild West the idea of getting away with crimes is justified. This is unlike the GTA games where you only get away with crimes because the coppers are lazy. If everybody did anything they wanted to civilians in big cities like that there'd be no one left :P.

ManchestrMorgue 01-05-2009 10:12 PM

Evidently rFactor, by the amount of responses to my thread :)

Phalanx 01-05-2009 10:46 PM

The Thing
Painkiller - well, comparatively "serious sam" got a lot more praise...
shit, I can't think...I guess underrated is just any other game I liked and not many others did, I could be in the wrong there.

newb 01-06-2009 08:06 AM

PSI-OPS

http://drh.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM...si_Ops_box.jpg

Posher778 01-06-2009 09:13 AM

Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory



It's free for crying out loud.

_____V_____ 01-06-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 775575)
I totally disagree with you on that one, V.

The oh-so-clever gameplay just sucks. You wanna fight the evil you're up against, not run away from it. That was the case with the original Siren.

At least in the new Siren: Blood Curse you get the chance to more or less fight them off. But i still don't appreciate the concept.


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Originally Posted by VampiricClown (Post 775608)
I have to agree with Angra on this one. Siren really wasn't that great of a game. It just didn't hold up in comparison to other survival-horror games.

Clive Barker's: Undying, on the other hand, is a sinfully scary experience. Very good game.


I totally get what you both are driving at, but I thought it was different. At a time when RE and Silent Hill were fanboy's wet dreams come true, the makers of Siren wanted to make something different, and not just another RE/Silent Hill clone.

Ergo, the slightly complicated gameplay. It was unique and offered something different, IMO. Not everything has to be confront-get best weapon out-shoot 'em up kinda stuff. I loved it.

VampiricClown 01-07-2009 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 776014)

Definitely.
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The_Return 01-07-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by scissorhands (Post 775802)
A game I've heard very little about, but which impressed me imensely, is Gun. It's an improvement on the overated Grand Theft Auto games. And since it's set in the Wild West the idea of getting away with crimes is justified. This is unlike the GTA games where you only get away with crimes because the coppers are lazy. If everybody did anything they wanted to civilians in big cities like that there'd be no one left :P.

You know, I've had that one for AGES now, but never got around to playing it...should really dig it out.

Elvis_Christ 01-07-2009 05:19 PM

Xenon 2.... still great after all these years.

Phalanx 01-07-2009 05:44 PM

I thought the xenon series was pretty popular though?
I dunno, can't pick it out of all the other games of that style to remember clearly m'self.

That dracula game that came out a while ago...malakai was it?
nosferatu, the wrath of malakai, that was it.
I think it just suffers from being lesser known, but yeah, it was great.
Hard, but awesome atmosphere.

Doc Faustus 01-07-2009 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 775575)
I totally disagree with you on that one, V.

The oh-so-clever gameplay just sucks. You wanna fight the evil you're up against, not run away from it. That was the case with the original Siren.

At least in the new Siren: Blood Curse you get the chance to more or less fight them off. But i still don't appreciate the concept.

Monsters are scary. In the event of a monster attack, the chance of people having guns on hand to blow the brains out of the zombies under all circumstances isn't too high. Siren is the only survival horror game where there monsters are as deadly and unpredictable as an actual monster outbreak would be in real life. The remote viewing stuff is also cool. Siren isn't always fun, but it's hardcore and innovative.

Angra 01-07-2009 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 776860)
Monsters are scary. In the event of a monster attack, the chance of people having guns on hand to blow the brains out of the zombies under all circumstances isn't too high. Siren is the only survival horror game where there monsters are as deadly and unpredictable as an actual monster outbreak would be in real life. The remote viewing stuff is also cool. Siren isn't always fun, but it's hardcore and innovative.


Hardcore??

In what way?


It's not like the "monsters" do a lot of scary stuff. They just.... well.... wanna kill you. :) Nothing special about that.

VampiricClown 01-08-2009 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 776711)
You know, I've had that one for AGES now, but never got around to playing it...should really dig it out.

You really should. It's short though. I beat it 100% in about three days.

Doc Faustus 01-08-2009 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Angra (Post 776906)
Hardcore??

In what way?


It's not like the "monsters" do a lot of scary stuff. They just.... well.... wanna kill you. :) Nothing special about that.

A survival horror game where the player is virtually defenseless is pretty rough gameplay difficultywise. At one point out of nowhere, there's a flying thing. The whole game, you have no reason to believe the things can fly. Suddenly, one of them flies at you. I would say that's pretty novel. There's a sharp learning curve in Siren that you rarely see. They'll also pursue you pretty far.

Gerbzilla2000 01-12-2009 04:24 AM

I will say Left4Dead just the same thing all the way and nothin much to do just shoot but the graphics are amazing and when the infected come running at ya thats great but gets boring after about 1/2 hr of playing it....was mega disapointed with it and was looking forward to that game.

Phalanx 01-12-2009 05:29 AM

Was that a plane flying overhead, or...?

CrimsonFiend138 01-26-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerbzilla2000 (Post 779154)
I will say Left4Dead just the same thing all the way and nothin much to do just shoot but the graphics are amazing and when the infected come running at ya thats great but gets boring after about 1/2 hr of playing it....was mega disapointed with it and was looking forward to that game.

Tottaly agree. I got bored after a while and not scary. BUT the draw was the randomness of the monsters and the random hordes(you would hear them hiss andhear them getting closer SCARY)

I wanted to play siren but it looked kinda hard, seeing as you pretty much had to run and switch between people or something? I appreciate the fact that you're not a badass bc I think most of us arnt gonna be like COME ON YOU MOTHERFUCKERS, I'd be hauling ass and hiding. But trying to get a away (or move in general) in survival horror games isn't the easiest task.

The One game I loved and alot of people didn't was Shenmue for the Dreamcast. Shenmue II for the xbox. I'd buy those consoles just for those two games. Takes place in like Japan 1986 and your dad gets killed and you're looking for the guy, and you know some type of martial art.
You wake up and go around town talking to people going into buildings looking for clues talking to people.You wake up every morning there's day and night and weather effects, and some randoms things, like some guys in a back alley come up to you talking shit and that would start a STE or (something) timed event(a button would pop up and you push it) so your guy would block another button and he'd kick the guy. You would also fight (tekken style) with actual moving around and pushing buttons. Very good graphics and very pretty looking and in depth for it's time. I wish they'd make the third but they wernt too popular.

Phalanx 01-26-2009 11:39 AM

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The One game I loved and alot of people didn't was Shenmue for the Dreamcast. Shenmue II for the xbox.
Hell YEAH.
Even if the whole end of #2 was just walking along a big damn path...ha...
There was a third planned, and people are apparently annoying Sega with gumball toys to (Jericho style) make 'em release one...it would sure be nice to see how it would look these days.
#2 ended so damn cliffhanger.

...didn't think they were unpopular though...

CrimsonFiend138 01-27-2009 03:49 AM

Hell yeah man, didn't think anybody would know about Shenmue....Shenmoo?? Thats how I say it. I read about the Gumball thing. You know its got its fanbase but not popular enough I guess. One Idea was they were going to release a compilation for xbox 360, then just the third game, I wish they would make a box set or something. I actually never finished the second lol, I got stuck for some reason. I traded this kid my slim Ps2 for his old Xbox(just for morrowind and Shenmue 2) It stopped working and I realised how stupid I was so I got it back.

Phalanx 01-27-2009 12:41 PM

You remember what part you got stuck at?

CrimsonFiend138 01-27-2009 03:22 PM

Lets see if I can explain it. I was looking for something inside a room...um I think there were alot of shelves, uh kind of like a store room. I rememeber it was in the town where you met the blind musician, but it's been forever, I hope that helps bc I'm curious. Ryo's friend from the gang, Ren, was waiting outside, or I got locked in or something like that. I think there might have been some kind of little dragon shrine inside the room or something.

Phalanx 01-27-2009 05:30 PM

I think I know what you're talking about....you needed part of a medallion or something, and were in a room with a lot of shelves/glass displays?
Something about animals, like a turtle and a phoenix or something like that?
The kinda punk guy you get handcuffed to (before or after) in part of the game is there with you?

Yeah, #2 was harder IMO but both greatly rewarding games. I'd suggest playing through again and looking up a walkthrough on gamefaqs, definately worth seeing through.

I always liked in #1, getting the gumball toys "Hm, I know this!"
Also incorporating specific Sega arcade titles in full version at the arcade was the shit.

CrimsonFiend138 01-27-2009 06:30 PM

YEAH!!! Thats where I was, and I would get so frusterated because I missed it or something and didn't know where it was, and knowing me it prolly wasn't too hard to get. Yeah with all the glass shelves and stuff. Yeah I really wish I had a computer at the time because I would totally go back and Play 2 with a walkthrough. I just wouldn't want to buy an old xbox for it :(. it would be really sweet if they released them again in a compilation for next gen. HAHA yeah I loved Ryo's talking, he always sounded so tired.

Despare 01-28-2009 07:42 AM

Shenmu was a blast, I still own it actually, should turn on the old DC and try playing it again.

CrimsonFiend138 01-28-2009 08:43 AM

Wow I'm surprised even one person on here knew about it, let alone a whopping TWO, SWEET!! :)...420 updates!! ;)


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