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Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 06:34 PM

Freddy question
 
Does Freddy know where his victems are while they're awake? Like...in FvsJ, when he killed the guy in the bathroom, he talked about how Jason wouldn't stop killing the kids. Did he know to pick that guy because he wasn't out in the open, or did he just get lucky and get someone that Jason wouldn't kill?

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 06:36 PM

I don't think Freddy know where his victims are when they're awake. They just have to make him kill kids at opportune moments so that the movies all tie in together.

He's supposed to be in people's dreams, not reality :P

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 06:37 PM

Okay. Side question. If Freddy is at a blank slate when the kid falls asleep, what dictates the dream? Does Freddy decide how the dream goes, or do they just have a dream and Freddy goes off of that?

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 06:41 PM

Humm.. I think that kid probably starts off the dream, and probably doesn't know that Freddy is in it. From there Freddy can take over the dream and dictate what he wants to happen.

Although, I've always thought that our own unconsious mind is supposed to control dreams. So technically, shouldn't we be able to kill Freddy, not the other way around :P

Unless Freddy is ultra-powerful mega mofo that can control us. Which I guess is the case in all of the movies heh.

otis 01-26-2004 06:42 PM

I think he finds out when he goes into their dreams, where they are. I don't have proof but i think he does. He rules their mind and knows everything they know.

otis 01-26-2004 06:44 PM

You can kill freddy. But if you fear him he becomes stronger than you. But if your not afraid you conquer.

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 06:45 PM

Uhhh.. In the first Freddy movie, at the end when the chick is saying blah blah blah i don't fear you, and he disappears.

Well what happened RIGHT after that? He came back and killed everyone.

Freddy is unkillable.

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 06:46 PM

come on, I think it's a pretty interesting thought, it should get more discussion than that.

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 06:48 PM

Well I said my two cents, ask everyone else to put in theirs :P

Evisceration 01-26-2004 06:53 PM

Rotting is correct.

He doesn't need to know where you are. If you fall asleep, you fall asleep. But if you're outside of Springwood, you're pretty much safe from Freddy, he's kind of a curse to Springwood so to speak.

He only exists in dream, or your mind. You start off you're dream, but then Freddy invades it and fucks it up, you never start off where he is.

Example, In nightmare 4...I think it's nightmare 4...Kristin I believe learns that she can control her dreams, and she starts her dream on a beach to relax or whatever...what does Freddy do? Fuck it up.

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 06:55 PM

Heh that poses a question similar to poltergeist. Why did they stay in the house again? Well, why not just move out of Springwood? Stupid ass people.

Evisceration 01-26-2004 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Rotting Eye
Heh that poses a question similar to poltergeist. Why did they stay in the house again? Well, why not just move out of Springwood? Stupid ass people.
New commers didn't know of Freddy. And no one lived in the house till after part 2.

bloodygurl02 01-26-2004 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by Rotting Eye
Uhhh.. In the first Freddy movie, at the end when the chick is saying blah blah blah i don't fear you, and he disappears.

Well what happened RIGHT after that? He came back and killed everyone.

Freddy is unkillable.

yes but in FvsJ none of them knew about him so he couldn't get to them in their dreams. so he used jason to set fear in to them so they would start to fear him again and get stronger. he only came back cuz the fear made him strongeer at the end of the first NOES they still knew whp he was so of curse they would still fear him and he would keeping coming back untill all the kids of elm stret were gone
if they would have moved out of springwood then no NOES movies oppurtuniites

otis 01-26-2004 07:00 PM

2 was the worst. It didn't stay with the seires.

Well, he came back, but did he kill her? Don't they kill him in Freddy's Dead. Well, you can't kill him, just don't fear him. If you don't fear him, he can't hurt you.

Evisceration 01-26-2004 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by bloodygurl02
yes but in FvsJ none of them knew about him so he couldn't get to them in their dreams. so he used jason to set fear in to them so they would start to fear him again and get stronger. he only came back cuz the fear made him strongeer at the end of the first NOES they still knew whp he was so of curse they would still fear him and he would keeping coming back untill all the kids of elm stret were gone
if they would have moved out of springwood then no NOES movies oppurtuniites

You are correct sir....erm...mam.

otis 01-26-2004 07:01 PM

They've done that. Freddy's Dead. There was no kids in Springwood.

Evisceration 01-26-2004 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by otis
2 was the worst. It didn't stay with the seires.
1. Neither did 5

2. Freddy's Dead is the worste by far.

3. Didn't they kill Jason? In like..all the movies...about...50 thousand times?

bloodygurl02 01-26-2004 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by Evisceration
You are correct sir....erm...mam.
thanx:D i guess

Evisceration 01-26-2004 07:04 PM

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Originally posted by otis
They've done that. Freddy's Dead. There was no kids in Springwood.
The kids were brought to Springwood by Freddy.

This is why the movies bad.

"Every town has an Elm Street!"

After he wipes out every kid from Springwood, he goes global, going to every elm street, he finds a survivor from Springwood, brings him back there, and the kid is brought to a shelter with an article of Kathryns mother. (Freddy's wife) Therefore they go back to springwood...thus more children for Freddy.;)

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 07:06 PM

Yes, I know in FvJ he had to use Jason to bring back people's fear, but he wasn't dead was he? No. If he were dead, the movie wouldn't have been made.

And remember at the end of the movie, when he was decapitated? He winked. Winkage = not dead.

Point being, in number 1 she didn't fear him, but he still came back at the very end to kill everyone.

And I know that if everyone moved out of town, the newcomers wouldn't know about him. That's my point, if they don't know about him, they can't fear him, thus he'll be latent. Not dead, latent.

otis 01-26-2004 07:07 PM

Do you like Freddy or Jason more? I hate Jason. Did he ever die? I thought he died when he drown when he was little, but did he live and something has kept him alive, or is he a zombie.

otis 01-26-2004 07:09 PM

i am sorry, but i don't think he can die. They said if you bring him into the real world you can kill him but, he was already killed he is like a zombie too. He is already dead.

Evisceration 01-26-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally posted by Rotting Eye
Yes, I know in FvJ he had to use Jason to bring back people's fear, but he wasn't dead was he? No. If he were dead, the movie wouldn't have been made.

And remember at the end of the movie, when he was decapitated? He winked. Winkage = not dead.

Point being, in number 1 she didn't fear him, but he still came back at the very end to kill everyone.

And I know that if everyone moved out of town, the newcomers wouldn't know about him. That's my point, if they don't know about him, they can't fear him, thus he'll be latent. Not dead, latent.

At the end of FvsJ, they're in hell, thus, being able to wink. Thus him being dead.

And there always seems to be clues about Freddy in the town, thus them being scared of something....thus Freddy feeding off that fear. He doesn't need the children to fear him directly. Just something....then you're fucked.

bloodygurl02 01-26-2004 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by Evisceration
The kids were brought to Springwood by Freddy.

This is why the movies bad.

"Every town has an Elm Street!"

After he wipes out every kid from Springwood, he goes global, going to every elm street, he finds a survivor from Springwood, brings him back there, and the kid is brought to a shelter with an article of Kathryns mother. (Freddy's wife) Therefore they go back to springwood...thus more children for Freddy.;)

thats another good point there evisceration. but heres another question. the kids were gone but the parents were still there right? if thats true then y didn't freddy go after there parents to i mean they did burn him and all

Evisceration 01-26-2004 07:11 PM

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Originally posted by bloodygurl02
thats another good point there evisceration. but heres another question. the kids were gone but the parents were still there right? if thats true then y didn't freddy go after there parents to i mean they did burn him and all
Because he just wanted to take their children to get his revenge. Thus the reason why they're all crazy.

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 07:12 PM

they never made it clear that it was Hell. Even in the commentary they said several things that it might be

Madman 01-26-2004 07:12 PM

The kids couldnt move if they wanted to.Their parents aint just gonna up and move just becuz little johnny is having fucked up nightmares.Parents are and will always be skeptical,its in the rule book somewhere and it wouldnt be that interesting if the parents believed their kids.

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 07:13 PM

Uhh.. they weren't in hell. They were at Camp Whatsitcalled. Clearwater? Where Jason died. That's not hell :P

bloodygurl02 01-26-2004 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Evisceration
Because he just wanted to take their children to get his revenge. Thus the reason why they're all crazy.
i know he wanted the kids as revenge but if he was running out of souls you would think he would go after the ppl that burned him. he could have feed of the fear from the adults. in FvsJ. they feared him enuff well the ones that knew of him and kept it on the down low so why didn't that make freddy stronger

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 07:17 PM

Because it wouldn't make a good movie duh.

Having him feed from adults' anger would make him too powerful, and would defeat the purpose of the movie.

avenger00soul 01-26-2004 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Evisceration
"Every town has an Elm Street!"
Even though the movie is horrible, that is my favorite line from any Elm Street flick.

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 07:24 PM

ours doesn't. We have a street named after a friggen steak, but no Elm Street

Rotting Eye 01-26-2004 07:25 PM

That's nothing. My neighborhood streets are named after cowboys and indians.

Freddy Krueger. 01-26-2004 07:44 PM

Just to add, Freddy was sooo the winner in Freddy VS Jason. Not only did Jason hardly (discluding smashing him across the windows of the cabin) even scratched him until that crate rolled down and sent them flying, this hurting Freddy, but also Freddy kicked Jason's ass so bad in both worlds. Matter of fact if it wasnt for that barbie doll bitch girl cutting off his head Freddy would have made it all through the battle. I know most people think that because Freddy's head was cut off BEFORE Jason shut his eye while laying adrife in the water, badly beaten up, means that Jason was alive while Freddy died first, making Jason be the winner although they both "died". But think about it, at the end when (spoiler-->)







--->Freddy winked as Jason carried his head out of the water, means that even when his head was choped off in the water in the first place, he was still alive. Since Jason died as he closed his eye and snunk to the bottom of the lake means that Freddy one, seeing that he was alive even without his head. The fact that Jason comes back to life at the end doesnt matter, the fact is that he died while Freddy was still living. Like I said, the fact that Jason came back to life doesnt change anything, he died before he came back at the end. This is my story and I'm sticking to it!

otis 01-26-2004 07:47 PM

There is a sequel. No one won. It was on The Daily SHow with John Stewart. I heard him say it. It also ruined the movie kind of. He even said it before it premeired.

He, if your wondering, is Robert.

Sam The Egg 01-26-2004 07:48 PM

how do you know that Freddy didn't die and come back?

otis 01-26-2004 07:50 PM

Neither one can fucking die really. They were both already dead.

Evisceration 01-27-2004 03:40 AM

In the special features, these two clowns from the special effect department were discussing several ways of them ending up in hell.

They pictured hell being more mysterious and light, rather than this dark, gloomy firey place. They didn't have the money to do what they wanted, plus it looked too fake. So they ended up having Jason rise with Freddy's head.

Thus, they are in hell at the end of them movie.

You twats.;)

Je Suis Phnomne 01-27-2004 07:18 AM

Re: Freddy question
 
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Originally posted by Sam The Egg
Does Freddy know where his victems are while they're awake? Like...in FvsJ, when he killed the guy in the bathroom, he talked about how Jason wouldn't stop killing the kids. Did he know to pick that guy because he wasn't out in the open, or did he just get lucky and get someone that Jason wouldn't kill?
Doesnt freddy only come after those that know of him? Like with the kids, sure they may not all be tied together as in their parents were involved in killing freddy, but in one way or another didnt they all know of him? Sorta like the boogey man under the bed type story, even if they never directly feared him.

Everyone has a nightmare of two, and some way some how each of them drifted towards dreaming about freddy in some way, thereby giving him a portal to get in to their heads?

Evisceration 01-27-2004 08:33 AM

Re: Re: Freddy question
 
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Originally posted by Je Suis Phnomne
Doesnt freddy only come after those that know of him? Like with the kids, sure they may not all be tied together as in their parents were involved in killing freddy, but in one way or another didnt they all know of him? Sorta like the boogey man under the bed type story, even if they never directly feared him.

Everyone has a nightmare of two, and some way some how each of them drifted towards dreaming about freddy in some way, thereby giving him a portal to get in to their heads?

Exactly what I'm saying.


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