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_____V_____ 05-13-2008 04:29 AM

The Avengers EDIT:- First Movie in history to make $200 Million in opening weekend
 
May 13 2008


Are Marvel trying to one up themselves by casting an even bigger name than Robert Downey Jr ("Iron Man") for their next super-jaunt?

Sounds like it.

According to Latino Review, Brad Pitt is the favourite to play the Thunder God "Thor" in the upcoming superhero flick of the same name.

No doubt Pitt could do it (he's a damn good actor), but they might just want to go a tad bit younger for this one. Pitt circa 1990, with that clean skin and long mane of hair, could've done it - but the Pitt of 2008? Slightly doubtful.

After all, Downey Jr played Iron Man, and Edward Norton's playing the Hulk; they're obviously going for big guns.

Roderick Usher 05-13-2008 06:58 AM

I love Pitt, but he's too tiny to be the Norse God of Thunder

Sure he's ripped, but he doen't quite have a Viking's physique

Vodstok 05-13-2008 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Roderick Usher (Post 696107)
I love Pitt, but he's too tiny to be the Norse God of Thunder

Sure he's ripped, but he doen't quite have a Viking's physique

Agreed. However, he could surprise you; edward norton is skinny, but Derek Vineyard from American History X was a fucking monster. 30 lbs of muscle for that role...



i alos never would have imagined robert downey Jr playing tony stark, but here we are, and by all accounts he did an excellent job (i will have first hand details next monday :))

urgeok2 05-13-2008 08:07 AM

get Dolph ! he was born to play Thor

Vodstok 05-13-2008 08:18 AM

Why not, he was He-Man. And the punisher.

PLus, he has amazing range as an actor, he has played everything from a rough and tumble cop to a rough and tumble special forces guy.

urgeok2 05-13-2008 08:25 AM

well, it's not like Thor has a lot of depth :)

"Loki ! thou sonne of a bytch - getteth back here anon !"

_____V_____ 05-13-2008 08:35 AM

Dont forget...the hammer. ;)

neverending 05-13-2008 08:50 AM

I agree Brad Pitt is too small.... Maybe they'll have him stand on a box or something.

Despare 05-13-2008 10:07 AM

I've heard rumors of Triple H being up for the part and although his acting is a giant question mark he does have the look...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...an/thorhhh.jpg

urgeok2 05-13-2008 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Despare (Post 696236)
I've heard rumors of Triple H being up for the part and although his acting is a giant question mark he does have the look...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...an/thorhhh.jpg


ha ! the Thor i grew up with didnt look like that ...

he looked like Flash Gordon :)

Despare 05-13-2008 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urgeok2 (Post 696249)
ha ! the Thor i grew up with didnt look like that ...

he looked like Flash Gordon :)

Seems like the movies are more going off the Ultimate Avengers though, especially with S.L. Jackson as Nick Fury.

urgeok2 05-13-2008 10:32 AM

then they should cast the guy who played the viking chief in the 13th warrior ..

Vodstok 05-13-2008 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Despare (Post 696236)
I've heard rumors of Triple H being up for the part and although his acting is a giant question mark he does have the look...

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...an/thorhhh.jpg

i found out at a christmas party last year that he grew up a few houses down from where i live.

Ferox13 05-13-2008 11:40 AM

Is this part of the Ultimates version of the Avengers?

Then I can definally see Pitt doing it well - a kinda more hippy version of the fight club character..And they can definally make him look a lot bigger too.

Despare 05-13-2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferox13 (Post 696277)
Is this part of the Ultimates version of the Avengers?

Seems like the Ultimate Avengers to me, Nick Fury did and so did Iron Man (and so does Hulk so far) but I don't know. Haven't read a lot of the comics so I could be wrong.

Papillon Noir 05-13-2008 11:46 AM

Brad Pitt is definitely too old to be Thor. The 90's Brad could maybe do it. They need a younger Dolph Lungren.

newb 05-13-2008 12:20 PM

from the Marvel directory

Real Name: Jake Olsen
Occupation: EMS Technician
Identity: Secret
Legal Status: None
Place of Birth: Asgard
Group Affiliation: Active member of Avengers
Base of Operations: New York City, New York
First Appearance: JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY #83

History: Descended from Norse gods, Thor nearly started a war by violating a truce with his family's ancient enemy --the Frost Giants. Odin, his father, banished the young god of thunder to Earth without his memory, to teach Thor how to behave as a mere mortal. After a decade as an earthly doctor, Donald Blake was drawn to Norway, and a subsequent encounter with a race of warmongering aliens. While hiding out in a cave, Blake found a mysterious wooden cane that turned out to be the enchanted hammer Mjolnir -- which transformed him back into the mighty Thor. He drove off the alien invaders and took his place with the Avengers. Shaking off the Blake persona, Thor was soon forced to assume the human identity of EMS technician Jake Olsen. Thor is forever torn between his divine home -- the hallowed halls of Asgard -- and the troubled lands of his adopted home, Earth.

Height: 6 ft. 6 in.
Weight: 640 lbs.
Eyes: Blue
Hair: Blonde

doesn't sound like Brad.

6 ft 6 in and 640 lbs.....WTF....sounds more like ........

http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news...ember-newl.jpg

urgeok2 05-13-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by newb (Post 696289)
6 ft 6 in and 640 lbs.....WTF



a lot of blonde guys are pretty dense :D

neverending 05-13-2008 04:08 PM

I have no idea about how Thor is portrayed these days, but back when he was Don Blake whenever he would smack that hammer down he would grow bigger- kind of like a Hulk transformation. Perhaps they're planning something like that.

Doc Faustus 05-13-2008 04:56 PM

Jason Mewes should bulk up.

urgeok2 05-13-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 696397)
Jason Mewes should bulk up.


heh ..


yo, lunchbox, grab that motherfucking mallet and lets go fuck some bitches UP, Snootch !

colubrid660 05-13-2008 05:50 PM

Really don't think they should make a Thor movie.

Just like I didn't think they should make a Fantastic 4 movie.

Despare 05-13-2008 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colubrid660 (Post 696437)
Really don't think they should make a Thor movie.

Just like I didn't think they should make a Fantastic 4 movie.

They're making an Avengers movie so they're doing Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America, Ant-Man, and Thor. I also saw on IMDB that Del Toro is directing a Dr. Strange movie. I wonder if that will tie in to the Avengers flick.

Supposedly they are considering this guy too... why I don't know.

http://www.hbo.com/rome/img/cast/act...evinmckidd.jpg

GorePhobia 05-14-2008 12:22 AM

Yeah I heard it was the dude from Rome and Triple H in the running for this.

I think Pitt could pull it off.

He looked pretty fucking ripped to me as Achilles in Troy.

Doc Faustus 05-14-2008 07:01 AM

They should really just go the old school hulk route and have different people playing Thor and his mortal form. Thor is a god, but his other form is usually just a twerpy blonde guy. Triple H as a twerpy doctor might not work. Brad Pitt as a twerpy doctor who turns into a CGI Viking God might.

_____V_____ 05-14-2008 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Faustus (Post 696714)
They should really just go the old school hulk route and have different people playing Thor and his mortal form. Thor is a god, but his other form is usually just a twerpy blonde guy. Triple H as a twerpy doctor might not work. Brad Pitt as a twerpy doctor who turns into a CGI Viking God might.

Now that is a very interesting thought.

I am thinking that was the reasoning behind the people at Marvel going for Pitt, too.

_____V_____ 05-22-2008 03:56 AM

The First Avenger: Captain America
 
Marvel big wig Kevin Feige updated today about the new Avengers film they have planned starring Captain America!

After the huge success of IRON MAN, Marvel announced a few films on their horizon including The First Avenger: Captain America set to debut in 2011.

IESB asked Feige if the Captain America film would be a period piece. He confirmed yes, the story will take place during World War II, just like the comic book origin story. He says they plan to remain very faithful to the source material and completely traditional.

(**MINOR SPOILER WARNING**)

Feige also confirmed that it was definitely the Captain America shield that was seen in IRON MAN on Tony Stark's work-station as he's removing his suit for the first time. It's just an Easter Egg and probably won't have anything to do with the Capt. America story.

What about that casting rumor making its way around the web that Matthew McConaughey would be taking on the role?

Nope, Feige says, that's absolutely false.

Kane_Hodder 05-22-2008 11:37 AM

This should be good, if they are sticking to the origin story.

The_Return 05-25-2008 05:20 PM

I haven't read a whole lot of Cap's stuff, but based on what I've read....I'm not entirely sure if he'll make for a good movie. Seems to black-and-white for me; another Superman style hero: Uphold the morals, beat the badguys, save the day.

I like some shades of gray in my heroes....besides, the character was created as propaganda. Without making MASSIVE changes to the character, its impossible to change that - yay for more pro-American trash :rolleyes:

Dark_soul 05-28-2008 11:37 PM

Captain America??
Boring!!! http://smileydatabase.com/s/490.gif

Phalanx 05-29-2008 03:24 AM

I think that the "ultimate avengers" movie gave a good example of how a cap movie COULD work if expanded upon.
Just take any of his villains that have "stood the test of time" and made the leap from the 30's and 40'd comics into the modern day "post thawing" era, make them the major threat in the "origin" timeline, and dr evil their asses into the future to come out of the shadows in the modern day too.
I'd like to see both a "classic" and "modern/tech" version in terms of costume too...semi military fatigue style of the old (the old shield maybe too...), and something maybe not as flag based as the "new".
Done well, I think it could be alright...just so long as

urgeok2 05-29-2008 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark_soul (Post 702183)
Captain America??
Boring!!! http://smileydatabase.com/s/490.gif


wow your soul is really dark.


lol
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_____V_____ 06-15-2008 08:25 AM

June 13, 2008


Marvel Studios is reportedly considering two A-list stars to play the title role in The First Avenger: Captain America, which is slated for release May 6, 2011.

According to Latino Review, Marvel wants either Leonardo DiCaprio or Brad Pitt to play Steve Rogers, a.k.a. Captain America. The site stresses, though, that neither actor has been approached yet. They are simply on the studio's shortlist right now.

Latino Review adds that Marvel is also mulling Pitt to play Thor.

DiCaprio, 33, is busy with a slew of other projects in the works (namely Atari and Fleming) so perhaps he'll be too busy to don the red, white and blue for Marvel.

The 44 year-old Pitt, like fellow rumored contender Matthew McConaughey, may be too long in the tooth now to play young recruit-turned-super soldier Steve Rogers.

James Whale 06-15-2008 04:19 PM

Boring angst...
 
It will be cool to have a superhero movie with a real hero; I'm very tired of the cliche existential angst of most of the recent heroes brought to the screen. Having said that, I was never a fan of the CAPTAIN AMERICA comicbooks. Although, if it's done well, I will probably enjoy this. Just think if Mavel had control of a FANTASTIC FOUR film! I hope they can buy the rights to SPIDERMAN and THE FANTASTIC FOUR back.

The_Return 07-12-2008 07:56 PM

Avengers Franchise - Prediction/Discussion Thread
 
Before some noob comes in here and calls me out on it - yes, I know that this isn't horror related. Fuck you :)

So, we all know by now that Marvel is planning to make a big ol' epic franchise out of The Avengers - they started with Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, both of which featured pretty badass references to future films.

From what I've read, the plan is to put out Iron Man II and Thor in 2010, followed by Captain America early in the summer of 2011 and capping things off with The Avengers later that season. They've also announced plan for an Ant-Man movie to be part of the saga(with Edgar Wright directing, supposedly), and rumor has it that Nick Fury might be in line for his own film, but to my knowledge no dates have been released for those projects.

So far, they're knocking the ball out of the park IMO. Iron Man and Incredible Hulk are both near perfect superhero movies - lots of action, super faithful the the source material, great effects and writing that's miles beyond your typical blockbuster. But what I think really sets them ahead of a lot of similar movies has to be the actors. Not only are people like Downey and Norton perfect for the roles, they are award winning, highly respected actors. This adds talent and prestige to the a genre that is ofter sorely lacking.

And they dont even stop with just the main characters; even the supporting casts are star studded in the best possible way. Guys like William Hurt, Tim Roth, Terrence Howard, Gweneth Paltrow, Jeff Bridges...Jesus, the amount of Oscar winners + nominees in these movies is simply mindblowing.

This does leave them with pretty massive shoes to fill for the upcoming projects though...can they find enough A-listers to round out the casts of at least 3 more major projects?

Supposedly, Marvel's first choice for Cap is Leonardo DiCaprio, if he wants the role. Personally, I think he's a great actor, but a very strange choice for Steve Rogers. But that said, I have complete faith in Marvel after Iron Man + Incredible Hulk, so if they think he'll pull it off, then he'll pull it off.

Casting Cap has an extra challenge: whoever they cast has to be able to command the screen as a leader, in a room with powerhouses like Downey and Norton. A lot of people are saying that they should try and cast an unknown for the part, but I really can't see somebody without much experience being able to hold their own with guys like that. Leo has the presence for sure, IMO, which is another reason that I'm backing up Marvel's choice.

I haven't heard anything even remotely concrete for Thor as yet...Matthew Vaughan is directing, but casting is still a total mystery. Rumor mill is suggesting that Brad Pitt and Kevin McKidd are being considered, and Karl Urban seems to be the fan favourite, but to the best of my knowledge Marvel hasn't released anything.

So, what do you guys think? Any ideas for casting? Should they use the classic 616 versions of the characters, update things to the Ultimate universe, or an amalgam of the two (as they seem to be doing so far)? What are your thoughts on Ant-Man - he is Marvel's Aquaman afterall, the butt of every joke - but can Wright make him worthwhile? What about Thor - the movies thus far have been as realistic as possible, but how can that treatment work for the son of a Norse god?

We've had some pretty good brief conversations about this stuff in other threads, but I thought it'd be fun to have an overall discussion thread. So, lets hear some opinions!

massacre man 07-12-2008 08:39 PM

I still want Aaron Eckhart for Captain America. Even if he is too old. I've been meaning to look into Thor for a while now but haven't gotten around to it.

I think Ant-Man will be good, not because of the character, but because I haven't seen Edgar Wright do anything bad yet. I hope Pegg's involved somehow, but if not, I can live with it.

I'll see Nick Fury regardless, but I'm still on the fence whether I'm excited or not.

But this franchise looks to be shaping up nicely, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk are definitely my two favorite non-Batman "superhero" movies.



And off-topic (your mention of Aquaman reminded me. Not trying to start a discussion and stray off topic, Return, just curious if you heard.)-Did you know that Adam Green (Hatchet) got hired to write an animated Aquaman film?

EDIT: A thought. I hope one not-so-great box office performance will put off the actual Avengers film. Because marketing a character named "Captain Ameriica" who wears an American Flag suit in other markets will be tricky.

The_Return 07-12-2008 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacre man (Post 713347)
I still want Aaron Eckhart for Captain America. Even if he is too old.

Never going to happen - too old + already Two-Face for DC. Isnt there some kind of law against stuff like that? I mean, if there wasnt, Christian Bake would be playing damn near every superhero ever created :p .

I agree that Eckhart would be great in the role, but I really cant see them casting him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacre man (Post 713347)
And off-topic (your mention of Aquaman reminded me. Not trying to start a discussion and stray off topic, Return, just curious if you heard.)-Did you know that Adam Green (Hatchet) got hired to write an animated Aquaman film?

Still haven't got around to seeing Hatchet, but I've heard nothing but great things. This could be something to keep an eye on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by massacre man (Post 713347)
A thought. I hope one not-so-great box office performance will put off the actual Avengers film. Because marketing a character named "Captain Ameriica" who wears an American Flag suit in other markets will be tricky.

Very tricky indeed....hence why they need a big name to carry it.

I really wish I could come up with some casting suggestions for Cap or Thor, but I'm utterly drawing blanks for both.

Despare 07-12-2008 10:09 PM

If they took Leo I would be worried about two things, the future Avengers film and budget. What would the budget for the Avengers film have to be to accommodate RDJ, Ed Norton, and Leo PLUS whoever the others will be? They can't let three big names outshine Ant Man and Thor right? Ok, maybe Ant Man, but Thor would have to be a superstar (I know, they're talking Pitt). What kind of a budget would a film have to have to be a super special effects flick while starring Leo, Downy Jr., Ed Norton, Samuel L. Jackson, and Brad Pitt (plus others!)? I hope Ant Man, Cap, and Thor aren't superstars already, but I suppose that's wishful thinking. I think that putting some great potential in there can help catapult a few names to the top, especially by pairing them with with such established talent.

massacre man 07-13-2008 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Return (Post 713351)
Never going to happen - too old + already Two-Face for DC. Isnt there some kind of law against stuff like that? I mean, if there wasnt, Christian Bake would be playing damn near every superhero ever created :p .

I wouldn't have a problem with Christian Bale playing every superhero, all the way up until Wonder Woman, then I'm done. Not because I don't think he would do a good job, but because I don't want to see a Wonder Woman movie, I mean, she has an invisible plane... but she can fly. And she has a lasso of truth... She's pretty much a shiny, flying feminist.

Maybe Marvel and DC could do an actor trade. Aaron Eckhart could be Captain America and Ed Norton could be The Riddler. I'd like to see how that would turn out.

_____V_____ 07-13-2008 11:23 PM

Quote:

I really wish I could come up with some casting suggestions for Cap or Thor, but I'm utterly drawing blanks for both.
Same here.

Despare's choice for Thor was Neal McDonough, and it is a good one. (in the Last Seen Movie thread)

Its for certain that Marvel will want a big name to play both these parts...and judging by the way careers are going so far, I am thinking they might be underlining someone like Shia LeBeouf to play a part in some way or another in either/or these movies.

You never know. Comic studios can be real stubborn when it comes to casting.


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