Halloween remake
 

I'm a big fan of House Of 10K Corpses and Devils Rejects, so when I heard Mr. Zombie was doing the remake of this film, I was very pleased. I finally bought the DVD, and I'll say this.

The first half of this film is awesome. Basically they go into the history of Michael Myers, and why he is a psychopath. The part of a young Myers is played brilliantly by this little kid, who is just perfect. At first I thought it might ruin the certain aura that makes Myers his character, but you don't see him when he's older, and it really adds another layer to the character. Sure, it was partially rushed, but jeez, this is a horror film, not an examination. But yeah, the film built a really solid foundation to work on, showing the development of his behaviour, etc. Its really good. Rob Zombies stayed true to the style of the original while also making it his own; You can clearly tell this is his film.

Now onto the bad part, the second half. This movie is proof that you just cannot win with remakes. You have to please old fans and newcomers; an impossible feat. It's either just a rehash of the old film, or it isn't faithful to the original, no middle ground. This half just feels like they completely remade all the scenes, with a few minor perks. I knew what was coming up, it was generic, it was boring, it was nothing I hadn't seen before (maybe inevitable really) and it failed to keep my interest. I felt disappointed.

Also, Zombie is doing that thing where he keeps reusing the cast; I swear ALL THE CAST of Devils Rejects and HOATC is used somewhere along the lines in this. It sucks. He just keeps using the film as a chance to flaunt his wife (yeah she's hot but hey, thats not the point!). I cannot stand this sort of indulgence turned laziness.

I think though, that if you haven't seen the original (A crime punishable by death in my books) then you'd most probably enjoy this, which does have some fucking VIOLENT scenes in by the way, although it softens up in the second half. But for fans of the original, I reckon this'd be a disappointment.

What did you guys think?

I'm a fan of the original (as far as slasher flicks go) and didn't much care for the remake. I didn't really like learning more about Myer's character as I liked the mystery associated with him in the original. The second half like you said was just re-shot scenes from the original. It was a nice attempt from Rob but it just wasn't a movie that needed to or should have been remade.

Worst remake ever. Destroyed the original beyond all comprehension. Stupid. Pointless. Left nothing to the imagination. Bad acting. Worse dialogue. Bad direction.... Exactly as I predicted it would be. Since Rob Zombie can't direct a film to save his life.


I liked about 3 seconds of it.

Hows that?

The orginal copy I own wasnt changed at all. I was a little worried when the remake came out, but when I got home I put in the orginal...................and the orginal played.

I think you might be a little confused.....

He's not the only director to use similar actors in their films Carpenter, Hitchcock, Argento and Raimi come to mind.

Right... :rolleyes: he pisses on a lot of motherfuckers that call themselves horror directors. What modern horror directors to you consider to be able to direct films to save their lives?

I'd bet good money he'll say Wes Craven *shudders*

Rob Zombie is hot!!Not that it has anything to do with this thread..

I think you'll find it's house of 1k corpses actually.

Hmm... Maybe... John Carpenter?;)

halloween remake
 

Well I thought it was different and rob zombie done an awesome job
with this keeping it true to its history. and put another layer to michael
myers character. and lent another layer when he got older, and the depth of
his character.

What?!?!


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Um...what movie did you watch?

I didn't think it was that bad really - but how in the name of God do you think it was even vaguely "true to its history"?!?

I agree that Rob Zombie did a nice job keeping true to the original. I agree with some that it was just another opportunity to cast in friends in a movie. I like the actors/actresses he used in his previous two films, but I think some of them just weren't right for some of the roles. But I still enjoyed the film.

The only casting call I had a problem with was Malcolm McDowell as Loomis, it just didn't work for me.
Watched it again this afternoon after only previously seeing the workprint. Very different endings that make MM two completely different characters.

That is very true. I actually had to go out and buy both versions of the film on DVD...because there were aspects of the theatrical and director's cut that I liked. But they don't appear in any one cut. Malcolm McDowell didn't bother me that much, because I'm a fan of his...but no way in hell does he come anywhere close to Donald Pleasance.

So the workprint is closer to what was screened theatrically? It didn't get a release over here and the only version on DVD is the directors cut.

Actually...there was a lot in the workprint that wasn't actually shown in either version, but there were some similarities. I friend showed me the workprint, and I was not impressed with that at all. Didn't feel like a Halloween film to me.

ZOMBIE's films have been praised by Roger Ebert!
 

I know . Who cares. However, Ebert put him in the same category with Tobe Hooper.Interesting. I liked the film overall. It was very uneven. It opened with GOD OF THUNDER and Myers wearing a KISS shirt; bliss!

How many threads do we need dedicated to this luke-warm film?

I'd like to see Halloween 5 discussed and dissected as much as this film.

I thought it was decent tbh. Halloween is by far my favorite horror series so I was kinda worried on the remake but I actually enjoyed it. Zombie does a good job being creepy and bringing the demon out in his character.

One thing about the Zombie story version that hits me the wrong way from the getgo is the villain in Halloween (1978) is the Boogyman, not Michael Meyers. The Boogyman is supernatural, has all of that mystery and superpowers. Whereas dissecting the psychology of of Michael Meyers makes him a mere serial killer. Debunking the myth is usually reserved for documentaries.

For his latest, RZ spared no expense in hiring his cinematographer, the guy who lensed Leprechaun: Back 2 tha Hood.

The original Halloween by John Carpenter got me started in this horror obsession so I don't take reviewing Rob Zombie's remake lightly, but in all honesty, I absolutely love what he did with both of his Halloween films.

Halloween 5? Are you kidding me right now? Next you're going to want to tell me Halloween 6 was a cinematic masterpiece.

Halloween was the movie that got me into horror as well! I could say that it "changed my life", but that's too corny.

^ Hey if the shoe fits! Coincidentally Halloween was also what got me into the horror genre. Or at least the slasher films.

But personally I didn't care for the Rob Zombie remakes... As much as I love his music, I just didn't feel like they had the same suspense as the originals. Also trying to make too much sense out of mindless gore just ruins gore in general.

Oh I'm talking about the original. The remakes were horrible!

^ Naturally. I only added the last bit to stay on topic and give my POV about the remakes. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who was disappointed by the remakes though. I expected better of Rob, but I do respect the guy for trying.

Roiffalo: would you be in on a re-make of the Rob Zombie re-make?

The only other movie I've seen from him is House of 1000 Corpses, and you can ask MichaelMyers what I think about that abomination.

^ Oh my. I've debated watching that, but after seeing the Halloween reboots, I'm very hesitant.

Rather random question. I am not though. I don't think a re-make is necessary so...
(I actually have it in my profile that I'm nooot very fond of remakes XD)

Rather blanket statement that.