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The Mothman 06-04-2007 01:58 PM

Masculinity in Action Movies.
 
i was reading a huge debate over at IMDB forums about Rambo IV. ( a rather hilarious debate at that. )

many people feel that this is an incredible revival for the action movies, which have been pussified scince the 80's. Action films now a days have morals and less violence. by the looks of rambo IV, its completly mindless, ultra violent, testosterone fueled awesomeness.

i happen to be for the idea. I love it. the mindless violence and macho mentality. people were all exited about the machoness of the film. for some reason, i just freakin love macho badass heroes, and according to what ive read, so do a whole lot of other people. what are your thoughts on this issue?

is exaggerated masculinity in action films kick ass or what?

Doc Faustus 06-04-2007 02:26 PM

It needs to be out there, I think. It's not so culturally detrimental as people say. How can anybody say that our culture has gotten more macho than ever after reading Beowulf? We need obnoxious Beowulfesque behavior in our entertainments because in real life we just can't be like that. Stallone does it for us. Unfortunately, this has seeped into our politics.

Kemal 06-04-2007 04:09 PM

Yes, we need better action movies. Explosions, gun battles, car chases, sick psychopathic bad guys and larger-than-life heroes that kick the living shit out of them.

And isn't the new Die Hard coming out soon? The first one was one of the seminal action movies of all time.

paws the great 06-04-2007 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Kemal (Post 607288)
Yes, we need better action movies. Explosions, gun battles, car chases, sick psychopathic bad guys and larger-than-life heroes that kick the living shit out of them.

And isn't the new Die Hard coming out soon? The first one was one of the seminal action movies of all time.

Live Free or Die Hard



I can't wait!:)

paws the great 06-04-2007 04:54 PM

Mothman,try these (1981) action flicks!




Sharky's Machine - Burt Reynolds & Rachel Ward

Death Hunt- Charles Bronson & Lee Marvin

Nighthawks- Sylvester Stallone & Rutger Hauer

jenna26 06-04-2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 607291)
Live Free or Die Hard



I can't wait!:)

Is it true this is going to be rated PG-13? Because that is very disappointing....love the others.

Mictlantechutli 06-04-2007 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 607300)
Sharky's Machine - Burt Reynolds & Rachel Ward

Death Hunt- Charles Bronson & Lee Marvin

Nighthawks- Sylvester Stallone & Rutger Hauer

All three were great! Love Nighthawks!

stubbornforgey 06-04-2007 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kemal (Post 607288)
Yes, we need better action movies. Explosions, gun battles, car chases, sick psychopathic bad guys and larger-than-life heroes that kick the living shit out of them.

And isn't the new Die Hard coming out soon? The first one was one of the seminal action movies of all time.




couldn't have said it better myself.

Bring back the bad asses ..

The Mothman 06-04-2007 06:00 PM

glad you guys aren't getting all politically correct on me.:)

The Mothman 06-04-2007 06:05 PM

IMO, violence belongs in movies. nowhere else.

take all the violence going on in the world right now and stuff it into movies. thats what we should do.

Dante'sInferno 06-04-2007 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607326)
IMO, violence belongs in movies. nowhere else.

take all the violence going on in the world right now and stuff it into movies. thats what we should do.

Also have alot of gay butt sechz when you film movies in prison,for realism.And have a guy there named tastycakes.

stubbornforgey 06-04-2007 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607326)
IMO, violence belongs in movies. nowhere else.

take all the violence going on in the world right now and stuff it into movies. thats what we should do.


That would make one great fucken movie..
all the ganstas getting dealt to by arnie and stallone in
one big shoot em out..hit em high sequel' .

The Mothman 06-04-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 607330)
That would make one great fucken movie..
all the ganstas getting dealt to by arnie and stallone in
one big shoot em out..hit em high sequel' .

'swat im talking about.

Priming examples of the movies im talking about. no hold barred good guys servin it to the bad guys big time. big ol body count.:
Cobra
Commando
Raw Deal
Rambo II
The Punisher ('89)
notice how al the heroes in these movies are practically untouchable. they're super heros pretty much. love it.

stubbornforgey 06-04-2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607332)
'swat im talking about.

Priming examples of the movies im talking about. no hold barred good guys servin it to the bad guys big time. big ol body count.:
Cobra
Commando
Raw Deal
Rambo II
notice how al the heroes in these movies are practically untouchable. they're super heros pretty much. love it.


YEAH!!

now thats what em talking about too .. :p

Dante'sInferno 06-04-2007 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607332)
'swat im talking about.

Priming examples of the movies im talking about. no hold barred good guys servin it to the bad guys big time. big ol body count.:
Cobra
Commando
Raw Deal
Rambo II
notice how al the heroes in these movies are practically untouchable. they're super heros pretty much. love it.

"ahem"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gQDt4PHbrPI

paws the great 06-04-2007 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607332)
'swat im talking about.

Priming examples of the movies im talking about. no hold barred good guys servin it to the bad guys big time. big ol body count.:
Cobra
Commando
Raw Deal
Rambo II
The Punisher ('89)
notice how al the heroes in these movies are practically untouchable. they're super heros pretty much. love it.

I love the 80's action flicks!Fun stuff!


Die Hard
First blood
Escape From New York
Avenging Force

The Mothman 06-04-2007 06:52 PM

you know, as sad as this is...ive never seen Escape From New York. shame too. has two of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell and Van Cleef...plus its directed by the legendary John Carpenter.

The Mothman 06-04-2007 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 607334)

told you. Commando is the shit.
love how hes running through the garden, mowing down flowers with an m60.
tell me thats not masculinity.

paws the great 06-04-2007 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607344)
you know, as sad as this is...ive never seen Escape From New York. shame too. has two of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell and Van Cleef...plus its directed by the legendary John Carpenter.


You really need to see Escape From New York and Avenging Force!


Have you seen Wanted Dead or Alive?

The Mothman 06-04-2007 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 607350)
You really need to see Escape From New York and Avenging Force!


Have you seen Wanted Dead or Alive?

havnt seen any of those. Avenging Force is on VHS in my school's basement for some reason, ill try to get a hold of it.

stubbornforgey 06-04-2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607344)
you know, as sad as this is...ive never seen Escape From New York. shame too. has two of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell and Van Cleef...plus its directed by the legendary John Carpenter.


'say it isn't so'..

Escape from New York ...
you must see this. :p

Dante'sInferno 06-04-2007 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607344)
you know, as sad as this is...ive never seen Escape From New York. shame too. has two of my favorite actors, Kurt Russell and Van Cleef...plus its directed by the legendary John Carpenter.

Snake is teh best.

stubbornforgey 06-05-2007 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 607395)
Snake is teh best.


'folds her arms'


Word:p

Elvis_Christ 06-05-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 607350)
Have you seen Wanted Dead or Alive?

Love that flick haven't seen in quite some time.

Out For Justice is a bad motherfucker too.

illdojo 06-05-2007 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 607724)

Out For Justice is a bad motherfucker too.

Totally.... Back in the day when Seagal was still kick ass. :D

stubbornforgey 06-05-2007 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by illdojo (Post 607731)
Totally.... Back in the day when Seagal was still kick ass. :D


ooh i forgot about him...


whose everyones fav muscle girlie..??

Dante'sInferno 06-05-2007 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 607732)
ooh i forgot about him...


whose everyones fav muscle girlie..??

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...hyna_aug00.jpg

stubbornforgey 06-05-2007 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante'sInferno (Post 607734)



aint that whats'er'face wrestling girly person..??

illdojo 06-05-2007 05:24 PM

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e107/illdojo/54.jpg
Brigitte Nielsen in Red Sonja. :D

Dante'sInferno 06-05-2007 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stubbornforgey (Post 607736)
aint that whats'er'face wrestling girly person..??

Not anymore.Besides,shes already starred in a horror movie.





One night in Chyna.

Dante'sInferno 06-05-2007 05:28 PM

But seriously....



http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h2...onnor_Loca.jpg


Sarah Connor(Linda Hamilton)

"i reh teh sechzy,when i r teh hot and sweaty."

The Mothman 06-05-2007 05:59 PM

honestly, not to sounds sexist, but a lot of heroines are kinda lame. seeing hot chicks acting tough is a bit silly.

it sure as hell worked in High Tension, The Descent and the Alien series though.

The Mothman 06-05-2007 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elvis_Christ (Post 607724)
Love that flick haven't seen in quite some time.

Out For Justice is a bad motherfucker too.

Hard To Kill is a good one.

Dante'sInferno 06-05-2007 06:03 PM

Pffffffbt,do you know what else is silly?Luke Skywalker and all his bitching.....







Ellen ripley would totally bitch slap that whiney fucker.

The Mothman 06-05-2007 06:04 PM

who ever said Luke Skywalker was masculine anyways?

Dante'sInferno 06-05-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607756)
who ever said Luke Skywalker was masculine anyways?

No one,but hes supposed to be a hero,and heros are SUPPOSED to be masculine...but thats not the case here.






"LyKe ZoMg! j00r mY fAtHeR!"

The Mothman 06-05-2007 06:08 PM

yeah luke shows alittle too much emotion to be a complete badass.

showing emotion=not badass
killing shamelessly=badass

Dante'sInferno 06-05-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607760)
yeah luke shows alittle too much emotion to be a complete badass.

showing emotion=not badass
killing shamelessly=badass

Darth Vader is a bad ass,and i mean Darth Vader.Not Anakin skywalker.



Bwhahahahah!These cybernetic emhanments have given me an utterly large penis!"

paws the great 06-05-2007 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Mothman (Post 607754)
Hard To Kill is a good one.


Marked for Death
Under Siege 1 & 2


I like Steven Seagal's older films,but His new flicks really stink!I also like John Woo's Hard Target.

The Mothman 06-05-2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by paws the great (Post 607766)
Marked for Death
Under Siege 1 & 2


I like Steven Seagal's older films,but His new flicks really stink!I also like John Woo's Hard Target.

wasnt too big a fan of the under seige movies...havnt seen marked for death.
but yeah, his career had definetly sank as hes gotten older.

Van Damme, he's another story.


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