You Guys HAVE To Be Honest Here...I Really Need To Know
 

Please take this seriously (even though the subject is pretty stupid)


Do you guys have fun playing with our resident idiot? I personally found Bane to be more funny (in a stupid kinda way) than irritating. Of course, I can remember Bane in his 'normal' mode, where he was actually a pretty okay dude, he's a hardcore metalhead would ya believe it? But, this loadernob guy is just too overthetop retarded.


Do you read all of his threads and posts just to see 'what he's doing now' ?...how everyone else is responding to him?...or whether or not the mods are going to do anything about him?


Does he give you guys something to do/read when the forum gets slow?


Do these types of 'episodes' help to keep the forum 'alive and bustling' at times when there doesn't seem to be much else to do here?


After he is banned and gone for a little bit...Do you find yourself wishing you could have caught his last posts, or his responses to YOUR posts?...Does it seem more 'boring' here when everything is calm?


OR...Do you prefer a 'calmer' more 'intellectual' atmosphere, with serious discussion and a little goofing off and ribbing between the regulars, and even new members as long as there is at least a modicum of intelligence or wit behind it?


Could it be a mixture of all of these?


Please let me know...If you're afraid that someone may react negatively to your true feelings on this subject and you would rather avoid the 'drama' that could go along with it...Just send me a PM...Okay?

I couldn't really care less what he posts. I never really read anything and rarely ever post in any of his threads. But I haven't really been around here a lot either.

Well, there are a LOT of people who haven't been around here much lately...I believe it's because of this bullshit...But, I don't understand why people keep responding/referring to it (when they KNOW that's why he keeps doing it)...So, with this thread, I'm just trying to alleviate some of the confusion...

Bane style trolls are amusing...dont mind him at all, good for a laugh

Bigloader/Renob/ect. types should be banned on sight. They pollute every thread with idiocy, vulgarity and (most recently) feigned ignorance. They are here for nothing more than to try and get a rise out of us, and I cant see why they can get away with it for so long before getting banned.

Some quotes that I find particularly pertinent...I should hope that there's no need to cite the source:

It's all well and good to type that out, but actually enforcing it is another matter entirely. As Ive said in another thread, these guys are easy to spot and their intentions are obvious...how hard can it possibly be to enforce that last rule: Warn 'em and ban 'em. Problem solved. Instead they end up getting hundreds of posts out before any noticable action is taken.

The "It Stops Now" policy is, in my opinion, the ideal way to run this place. The moderators simply need to abide by it and enfore it more stirictly.

I didn't really mind it, because it was just one guy posting.

That guy would ordinarily have stopped, but people reacted to him, and that encouraged him to keep going; it gave him energy to keep posting.

Some of the stuff he posted when he was trying to rile things up were pretty funny! I'm serious, I would find myself laughing at some of these comments. Often. Especially the one about...no, I'm not going to lower myself..."Did you ever watch a horror movie that scared you so bad that you..." that one.

I agree with what you've said...However...If you ban someone too soon, there is usually an uproar of people saying things like, "But, what did he do?"...Or the banned person comes back with, "I wasn't doing anything wrong THAT time"...Or we have people who say, "He wasn't THAT bad, what's the big deal?"...It almost seems as though we have to let it get irritating ENOUGH so that everyone is in agreement and can clearly see the necessity...

This place is a democracy...The wishes of the MAJORITY is what matters...NOT what a couple of mods think...That's why I ask you guys questions like this


Also, bear in mind...When someone IS banned, they just come right back...You guys think, "Well, it's a hassle for them, so they'll just stop if they get banned a few times"...Here's what you guys fail to understand:

1) These people obviously have nothing better to do and no life

2) If hanging out at a forum pissing people off all day is not a 'hassle', neither is creating a new SN and doing it again and again

3) Their intention is most likely to get ENOUGH of a rise out of people to get banned, so when they DO get banned, they get a kick out of it...Hard to imagine that someone's INTENTION is to get banned?...I've had people BEG me to ban them...SFF bragged about the fact that she had been banned from LOTS of forums, and Bane has said that he has been banned from EVERY forum that he has been to

4) When they ARE banned...They come back...Often with a vengeance...Compounding the problem in triplicate

5) Banning is not a deterrent here...Nothing is...We CAN ban them over and over again...But, often get shit for it...Which is why I ask if it's possible that some of you guys actually don't mind it so much


As for Bane...At least he kept HIS shit in only one or two of his own threads...

I have been gone far a somewhat long time so I have no Idea whats going on anymore.

I see all of you talking about "bigloader", and I'm am in the dark about that. But I'm guessing Renob is basically the same. A few of the posts from him I've seen were rather annoying or dumb and I think I may have posted one or two comments just for the heck of it, but I'm not really singling out anyone on this board. Yes, it is a close community, but it's still public.

I'd personally prefer not to get in the middle of it all though. Haha, but it seems as if I'm inching there anyway.

Your right.

He's like Steve Stifler on American Pie.Some of his antics are so stupid people laugh.

By "Bane" I assume you mean Darth Bane and his "compatriots." When it was various Darth Banes and Deicides and Kazilu-Beys, that shit was annoying, not amusing in the least. If the entirety of Bane's idiocy could be contained into one thread, I could see him not getting banned outright. But in general, I'm not amused by him enough to warrant him not getting banned on general principle

The last time Bane was here (recently), I banned all of his 'extra' screen names (as I told him I would) as soon as he registered them, and allowed him to carry on with his original one...He kept all of his silliness (and we contributed to it on a grand scale) to TWO threads...He made NO racist, pornographic, homophobic, or in any way 'inciteful' posts...He was NOT banned at that time...He apparently just got bored/frustrated with the fact that we accepted him, no one was getting upset, we were having fun with him, he was NOT getting banned, and no one really gave a shit...So, he just left on his own without even a 'goodbye'...

Apparently, he was NOT getting what he came here for...

Sometimes his posts are sensible and i enjoyed reading them then other times
he just gets too high on his own odor and his posts go randomly stupid.
I suppose that could be said for alot of us .
What i can't understand is...why is everybody so infatuated with the guy?
So many threads have been started up over him..including this one..why??
As for members leaving because of the shit they read from him...nah!!
Those leaving members can blame who ever the hell they like..if its not him ..it will be somebody else who gets the finger pointed at.

The honest fact is..members don't like him
plain and simple...one of us could post the same crap and get hilarious replies
in return.. :confused:

Honestly, I think the person in question is a really annoying person.
There is such a thing as too much, and I haven't been coming around as often because the stupid comments get really old.
Of course, if you responded to everything that pisses you off online, you would stay annoyed.;)

They bore the shit out of me.At least give us the decency to try to be witty or a little creative.This recent batch of troll is just tiresome. And why the fuck people keep responding [ i.e ocdave] to this shit is beyond me.If you see an idiotic post [not including mine] just let it go.....don't respond...the fool will get bored and move on.




my 2 cents

I honestly like having somebody around that I can take off ignore an lay into for being such a fool sometimes. It's kind of a funny thing because he enjoys illiciting a reaction from us and sometimes I enjoy all the jokes at his expense.

I'll never understand the actions of these people. Does seeing other people annoyed by them make them happy or is it the fact that any attention they get it "good attention"?

I find it the kind of annoyance that keeps me from wanting to log on. I don't need this kind of bullshit in any aspect of my life.

So I simply "ignore" and move on. This will, hopefully be the last bit of energy of any kind which I spend on this subject.

In keeping my post short and sweet, I don't like him, ban away.

They have a sad life to begin with, and they piss people off to feel powerful. At the end of the day when they tuck themselves in, that's their big achievement...so, ya gotta realize these are pretty miserable people in the first place. I've known quite a few people like this in "real life"...known who they are and how they got that way, more or less...and for the most part, people don't turn out this way by accident at all. 99% of them have had extremely abrasive, abusive childhood experiences.

I don't like trolls, and I learned long ago that the best way to get rid of them is to never ever acknowledge them in any way. It's difficult to get an entire community to do that. Some are the type that enjoy stirring things up. They are almost as annoying as trolls to me.

I just stay out of threads that I have no interest in.

"This one" was necessary, to determine a course of action based on the feelings and opinions of our majority...Otherwise, I just ignore the ass

As for 'regular' members doing some of the same things at times, and being accepted...I can't argue with that, however the 'regulars' don't do it ALL the time and/or refuse to do anything ELSE by way of contribution and/or relevance

I am aware (as are the rest of you) that there are a couple of people here who seem to NEVER contribute anything worthwhile, and beg the question, "Do you even LIKE horror?"...But, these people seem to just be 'hanging out'...Irritating? yes...Inciteful and purposely trying to ONLY piss people off or illicit a negative reaction?...no...That's why those people are at least 'tolerated' here...Those are the people who go to the zoo and say, "I hate animals, but I love the people who come to the zoo"...Hey, we're a cool bunch of people here (for the most part), you can't blame someone for wanting to hang out with us...


I appreciate EVERY post that has been made in this thread...I have taken it ALL into consideration...I will base future actions on what has been posted here...And although I haven't discussed this with Zwoti (like I'm SUPPOSED to do :o )...I am hoping that he will agree with me, and I encourage him to do the same

Thanks guys...I really mean that

For some of you...It may become a little 'boring' here now...Perhaps you may want to look into some more 'exciting' forums...I would give you some suggestions, but I don't really know of any...Perhaps there's a Racists.com, RednecksBeUs.com, ShitSlingers.com, or IFuckedYourMomma.com...or something...

I don't really mind him. Sure, he's a tool, but I have found him relatively easy to avoid and I haven't really noticed anything ban-worthy.

HaHa...That's because it's been removed...50+ posts out of 79 (his latest incarnation) with the words "pussy fags" in them, is just a little too much...Even for THIS place


This is what I meant by letting them hang around long enough for EVERYONE to see the necessity...

"Pussy fag"? That's a bit of an oxymoron aint it? Or is it simply a new term I haven't heard yet refering to lesbians?

The General Forum has always had its fair share of moronic behavior ....hell I've been a big part of that kinda shit at times. There's probably a bunch of people that want to see me get the fuck outta here.
I've just been ignoring the dude but have noticed how his bullshit has caused a downhill slide round here (which is saying something). He's got nothing to contribute so I'm all down to get rid of him. But whatever I'm just a shitstirrer so what do I know.

It pisses me off to no end, and I think I can say that for most members who've been here a good while. Ban the ass on site, as soon as he's spotted. I really believe that once he realizes he can't get more that a post and a thread out before he's banned, he'll loose interest.

There is one member that I would like to really sit down and "talk to" as well.

Editted because Bwind22 demonstrated that I was being a pompous ass, and I was. You may see the example of this in his post.

referencing the bigloader incarnation, it was vbery jarring to be reading through an otherwise lucid and/or entertaining thread, only to have a "load" post crop up unexpectedly in the middle of it. I can almost accept people that are JUST being asses, but he then turned around and tried to justify it as "research"....


I will admit, there is a certain degree of satisfaction i get from screwing with people like him, take trendkill for instance. Rip apart what they say, point out contradictions, lather rinse repeat. I did the same with bane back in the day, and deicide, and anyone who was around back then probably remembers how that was (drove the hits to my site up by 500%).


In the end though, i would just assume have our normal discussions and not deal with people like him. All of us are immature in our own ways, but he is like a kid who tells awful jokes to everyone and then guffaws annoyingly at his own "genius".

You 03'ers just think you are so cool donchya! ;)

Who is it? Don't pull punches! We wanna know! Send me an IM & I'll be happy to set 'em straight! Muahahwhwhaha!

I think I've weighed in on this before, but I'll let you know again.

It is annoying. It's moreso annoying that we don't have an admin who gives a fuck about us than anything.

I don't mind light-hearted, stupid threads every now and then. You've obviously noticed that I'm here quite a bit less than I used to be, and this is part of the reason. I come in here to relax and talk about something I love to get away from the stupid shit I deal with at work. Lately, I've just been going out to the floor and helping the regular employees.

That's right, folks, it's gotten bad enough around here that I'd rather do manual labor most of the time than hang out. I'm sure I'll change my tune soon enough, but for now the place has went to shit.

We've lost a lot of good members since I've been here. Others seem to be fading. I've got enough people around that I come to chat with that I keep coming back, but those people post less and less. Almost makes me wish you got charged a minimal $5 one time fee to join. It'd definately cut down on the bullshit.

Anyone that feels the need, can feel free to send their one-time $5 HDC enrollment fee to [email protected] via PayPal.

I'll start a forum today if you want to pay to join :D


to be honest, this place goes through phases. It has for 4 years now, at least. this is just another one, it isnt the end of the world or the forum, it is just the natural order of things. they will get better again, and worse again. this isnt even El Nino, it's just run of the mill. Especially in the early winter months.

Amen to that brotha.


Finally! Someone that sounds like they've actually been here as long as their profile indicates!

:) glad to be of service.

Honestly, though. People's moods, bullshit tolerance, and overall irritability seems to be tied linearly to the length of the day. this time of year, we are all cooped up, and even nice sunny days are cold as hell for many of us, and that breeds 2 things:

To deal with themood, som of us screw around more, and part 2, the rest of us have less patience for it.

Now, for the people who live further south, well, the days are still shorter, and that does have a subtle effect. And as for the Aussies and New Zealanders?

Well, they can be a right pissy bunch for living in such beautiful countries. :D must be the poisonous animals and giant insects.

In all honesty, these antics make me not want to come here. I'm not about to say that I've been the best/most friendly/most intellectual poster here, but I think I have contributed some. When I see that nearly every thread is being shitted up with this kind of idiocy, it just makes me want to avoid this place. For the record, it's not just bigloader either.

I'm for banning on sight. If an IP ban could be issued, that would be preferable.

I just don't understand how people could be turned off of visiting the site because of it. I put this latest incarnation of immaturity and stupidity on ignore after his first or second post and never saw anything from him again. I'm not saying that coming here less isn't an answer I just personally don't see what that decision accomplishes.

If we stop coming here... then he's won man. That's it; game over man! Game over!

Hey look at me, I got banned a shitload of times about 2 yerars ago'I came back and started being a dick, not that I craved the attention but because some drunk hillbilly mod got wasted and banned half the board and most people that banned had never done anything wrong, he just didn't like them.Then the kicker was they still let him mod!

Totally agreed.

Bigloader is the only one that I personally feel should be banned, but there are plenty of other idiots that make this place less fun than it used to be. Ignore is one thing, but having to put half the active members on there is a little much.

Vod is right though...this places does go in cycles.

Teeheee...shouldnt we just let sleeping dogs lie? :p

(Long forgotten insider...not sure if anyone will get it or not, haha)

Don't worry, I'm here to be productive(unless kpro and amk start banning me for no reason again):)

I don't know.... I guess I didn't see what was said specifically that this all refers to but it seems to me that things are getting just a bit melo-dramatic around here. We've had trolls in the past, we'll have them again in the future. Some people ignore them, others fuck with them. Mods ban them, they return. It's nothing new. Finding a forum out there that didn't have it's share of fucktards... Now that'd be something that would surprise me.