GORE: has the horror movie genre gone too far?
 

a day ago i just got done watching texas chainsaw massacre the beggining..unrated,it was very gory.....i then watched leatherface tcm3..there was a documentary..they all said the unrated version would get a X back in the 80's....now what would happen if they still handed out the big X movies like saw and hostel(i think hostel sucks and it has no story) they would have got banned from theatres...i dont have much time so i leave you with this...have movies gone too far...or not far enough

I think films simply have to keep up with the changing audience. What was gory then well its not anymore. Also with new special effects/props etc things look more realistic. As to the question of has it gone too far or not far enough well there would be lots of points of arguement there. Films need to keep up with a changing audience but the world is changing and becoming more volient do we want to promote that?

I would agree...there are more violence fans now then back in the 80's...i honestly can't think of a reason why people get these ideas for these horrible movies,and yet people like me just eat them up....the things that make people close their eyes are the things that i'm used to...i think movies have not gone far enough....maybe when the whole movie shows people getting ripped apart,then i'll say you crossed the line.But until then i'm all for the gore.

Gore has never done much for me because too many directors end up making it the main focus. I think it can enhance a story, but I don't care for it when it is used in place of a story.

There is no such thing as a line that cannot be crossed in film. Someone will always come along and raise (or lower - depending on your view) the bar.

Which I think is great because with film there's always choice. If you believe something is "too much" or somebody went "too far" in a movie then you don't have to watch it. On the other hand, if you're craving something more visceral or intense you'll probably be ablt to find it, either now or in the near future.

Oh trust me... there's more. ;)

You don't know that though. You're infering that nothing can have that kind of impact on you but you have no idea what's to come. If it's something new, something fresh and different, then you can't say it won't have that kind of an impact because you don't know what it may be. If somebody did the same thing Miike did but just piled on more blood and fetuses (feti?) then I can see where it wouldn't have an impact. You're disregarding the possibility of something new, viscious and violent beyond anything you could have imagined.

Wait until you see the female slasher heh. Some normal woman suddenly loses it as her four year old makes his way into the SUV and she starts slamming the door on her child until he's dead. That's just how the movie starts!

Can't wait for it to hit the theaters :rolleyes:

thats exactly what i'm trying to say.you could splatter blood everywhere but it's not as frightning as seeing someone gets ripped to peices...you always expect the ripped intestines scene in zombie flicks...i think now is that everyone expects so much gore.....and thats why you get saw,hostel, tcm,...new topic:what is your favorite gore flick...you can also speak on this topic

Really good points from all. Thing is should we not be a tad worried if gore films are not effecting some people? Even when new films are made where scenes make even gore fans turn their heads will it not be considered the norm once it has been seen and new films hit the cinemas? Also think about people that watch these films and consider the violence normal (obviously not many).

However films are the imagination to say that someone has gone to far well thats like telling them not to think.

Sorry if I have repeated what has been said and sorry im not good at communicating in words what im trying to say lol bear with me.

It never will, just saying that a mother killing her young kids for no reason is disturbing and would probably shock in a film if done right.

I was j/k I knew where you were coming from

Ah I see. Anyway, I was just trying to convey that I think people are capable of actions so depraved that the actions themselves are more shocking than gore. I think you got that. :)

i agree 100%...but that's why movies get banned...just 2,2,2 gory....the TCM 2003 remake had to cut out scenes to not get banned

yep dont be afraid to use the gore when its needed, i love gore but its not needed on every horror film

I would agree that gore is not needed in some films. Some films do really over do it with the gorey scenes it can just become boring. However if done well gore scenes can be very effective as a visual impression of what the character is like.

ya that makes sense

The "better" gore the better. When I watch movies like Story of rikki and brain dead, the gore used is so un realistic it is rather funny. Buckets of fake blood and clay effects do nothing for me.
I like gore to add to the terror and reality of what was supposed to of happened in the movie. That is why the rape scene in Irreversable is so brutal. Lots of movies have rape in them, however Irreversable's rape scene is so realistic it made me think about what a rape victim would go through. I doesnt glorify rape, it makes you sick.
Also if there is a gorey scene in a movie I like the effects to be realistic as well. I would rather have one throat cutting scene like in High Tension than all the blood and guts of a Rikki or brain dead.
But thats just me.

Yup I agree Gracie.