Be Honest....
 

Scream was an excellent movie. Very underappreciated in the world or Horror. Most people don't like it for the fact that it spawned kind of a new genre.

I Know What You Did Last Summer was one of those spawns. It was an alright movie, but it wasn't something that fans of horror had not already seen.

I don't think there is any wrong or right, it's all subjective really. Personally I dug Scream but I couldn't really get into I Know What You Did Last Summer. There are no lousy horror fans... ok I supposed if you listed House of the Dead at the top of your list I'd be forced to ignore your opinions but hey, at least you're watching horror and not some cheesy coming of age story.

There's nothing wrong with Scream & I Know What You Did Last Summer being your favorite horror movies. I don't find either one particularly endearing, but that's just my taste.

Have you watched a lot of horror, or are you a budding fan? Are you a big slasher fan? Take a look at the HDC Top 100 for an idea of what people around here like (Scream is on the list.)

These films are frowned upon by many horror movies fans because they ushered a new era of more "mainstream" horror movies aimed for teens and featuring mostly "cool kids". The two films by themsleves were ok, and just ok in my opinion, but it all went downhill from there.

I believe that the new wave of torture movies like Saw and the likes is a counter-reaction of some sorts to all these bland PG-13 horror movies.

I wasn't going to answer this, because you are obviously disturbed. ;)

There's nothing wrong with either of them, if that's what you want to watch so be it. We all have our faves, just because someone doesn't agree with you, that's their hard lines, have you asked them what their faves are, you may think that their choice is just as bad.

My fave horrors are Jaws & King Kong (original). They may not be scarey, but are simply works of art, that still hold many peoples affection.

I like Jaws because I can remember seeing it at the pictures and as for King Kong, when you think it was made back in 1933, the special effects for its time IMO haven't been equalled.

i would never have looked at in that way....your right though...Jaws was pretty scary and for the kind of storyline it had, it made a big splash (pun intended)....

as for you suggestion of asking other people what they like i think thats a good idea...

so what is everyone's idea of a good horror movie?

you may be right there....the school based horror movie, or teen based horror movie's have gone down hill a little bit and as for the backlash (which created Saw and the likes) im terrified what to think will be coming next in retaliation of these kinds of movies. Saw was a good movie, i mean it was a breakthrough movie because of the storyline and all out twitch in your seat psychological grossness.

But i refuse to watch Saw II again it went way too far for me. And i better take back what i said about Hostel, as i agian refuse to even watch that movie. lol.

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Personally, Scream is one of my favorite movies of all time. It is one those movies I never get sick of watching. I cant even tell you how many times I have seen the original Scream, I absolutely love it. 2 and 3 were not as good as the 1st but for a sequel they were outstanding. As for I Know What You Did Last Summer I also enjoyed. I didnt love it but I definately did not hate it. Scream is one of the best trilogy's out there and nothing anyone can say will change that.

we all have different tastes n different veiws on movies..
whether it be horror or not.
If thats what you like..then don't give a damn what anybody else says.
Everybodies a critic but
nobodies the same ..

thats my opinion anyways' ;) :cool:

Yes.:D

Seriously, the next time you hear a reake is coming do yourself a favor and head to the video store (or netflix or whatever you use) and rent the original first.

If you like the remake better, fine...but see the originals, please, please, please!

Absolutely! It might be the only good thing about a remake if it can spark some interest for the original, but I'd still prefer they would stop doing them.

We'll you're missing a lot of gems then! By the way, since you seem to be from my area, do you know about the Fantasia Festival? If you don't, well just look out for it next year!

I can't help but think that the replies to this thread would be different if the original poster wasn't obviously female.

that said, I can't honestly say that I hate any horror movie. the Scream and IKWYDLS movies don't really do it for me. they seem a bit too polished and overproduced.

you mentioned that you didn't like the rape scene in THHE remake and that it wasn't necessary. I didn't enjoy the scene, but I hafta say that the whole movie made me happy to see such extremity being shown in a major Hollywood release.

to me, intense scenes are great. I like seeing exactly how far directors will push the limit.

my favorite episode in the Masters of Horror series is Cigarette Burns, just for that reason... because I could identify with two of the characters. one of them says that he "only wants the most extreme images" (paraphrasing) and the other, the director of a notorious film, made movies because he "wanted to utterly destroy the audience."

now that's some shit I can respect. but once again, that sort of thing isn't for everybody. and whether or not it's some "macho" thing or even if it's a "sick" thing (my wife thinks the former), it all comes down to what is pleasing to you aesthetically and if the Scream (or any teeny-bopper horror, for that matter) is what you like I, personally, have no problem with that.

Yes you can, I have faith in you.

Your faith will see me through this dark time Rod, the light will guide me to the originals i seek so dilegently!

ok in some movies scenes that are very dramatic and full on i can handle...but when it came to that scene in that particular movie i dont know...it just gave me the willies and i couldnt stomach it...i physically felt ill after it....i think it had something to do with Lizard...the mutant raping her. It scared me beyond belief and i will never watch that movie agian...but i do like when movies push things to the limit...bending the rules...breaking them is when i have a problem.

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i dont have a hate on for the 1st scream .. i thought it was fun..
but the sequels ..

and lumping it together with last summer .. its movies for kids, staring kids ..

that is not the recipe for my favorite horror.

Already told you about it in private, but for the benefit of others :

www.fantasiafest.com

One of the largest Horror/Sci-Fi/Asian Movies festival in North America, Goes on for three-four weeks each summer and usually has lots of premieres.

erm...em a female so does my reply count??

I found no offense to the rape scene..why?
cos it was only a movie and its reality ..whether we wish to admit and visualise it or not...it happens.
Its actually good for ppl out there to see how much pain and suffering a rape victim goes through.
How many objections were made to the scene in the green mile when the 2 girls bodies were shown.?
The most taboo thing to me ..is a child murder/rapist/etc and these are being shown on televison via prgrammes like law and order .S.V.U etc.
You can't have a storyline without a story.
I think its hypocritical for a horror fan especially ..to sit there and cheer for some scenes in some movies and on the same token ..criticiise a scene in another.

that is awesome.


that's when it starts to get interesting, to me.

What Scream spawned was a new generation of self-aware, knowing 'party' horror movies - specifically aimed at excitable teenyboppers and self-aware, knowing twentysomethings.

This safely in place, Kevin Williamson then went on to further irony in his I Know What You Did Last Summer, then thankfully fell pretty much flat on his face with Teaching Mrs Tingle and Cursed (another collaboration with sellout hack Wes Craven) after the irritating teen-angst drama series Dawson's Creek.

Things are kind of steadying themselves now with the arrival of nasty, torture mainstream horror (Hostel, Saw et al) that doesn't need to seep itself in clever references, so it will be interesting to see where the mainstream genre goes from here.

Perhaps the likes of Williamson can adapt his style, or maybe he will just fade away like Craven should have done years ago when he stopped making decent films.

do you think the current nod to the old grindhouse flicks will continue and influence the immediate future of horror films, or do you think it will be a blip on the radar ?

i'm not sure if it will become the new level of acceptance or if it will spur on some kind of morality force backlash.

usually this kind of thing will exist for a while before the powers that be get wind of it (being the least plugged in part of the populace) They'll hear something from a senator who's wife caught their kid watching hostel.

yes


this makes almost no sense. so, if you are a fan of horror, you're just supposed to blindly accept any horror movie, or to narrow it down, any horror scene, without question?

I love the scene in Halloween when MM sticks the guy to the cupboard and then stands there and examines him like a butterfly pinned to a board.

I dislike the scenes in Halloween when Laurie has asides to herself like, "I thought you outgrew superstition." to me, that's kinda cheesy.

but being as I like one scene, and dislike another, does that mean I'm not a true fan of the genre? or to take it a bit further, does this comparison mean I don't like the movie Halloween? as a matter of fact, I consider it to be one of my favorites.

to me, a true fan has cultivated a taste for what is good and what is bad... particularly in their chosen genre.

I thought the Scream series and the Last Summer series were entertaining and worth watching. Even though none of these films were scary, the original Scream was an interesting take on the horror genre. Unfortunately, the cool teen thing got old really quick.

No, I think people are toughening up - which is a good thing, product of a harsher and crueller world or not.

I think the distraction of internet 'depravity' has quietened the campaigners so far as violent films go, particularly as Hollywood is now churning out grade-A nastiness with a sheen that the old gorefests couldn't afford. Now there is morality and purpose in the terror. Which is bullshit, but boils down to the fact that the casual observer refuses to see any merits behind a cheaply made sicko since they have to work harder than they would watching the same story filmed by a cool new Hollywood director. Give the blood & guts some gloss and a few decent actors, and all of a sudden it's fine.

Lady Frost,
I love all horror types! and damn proud to say I own all the "Scream" and "I know" movies on dvd and yes they do get viewed from time to time!
;)

I'm glad there are some PG-13 horror films. I don't watch them but it does allow people with weak stomachs or those who are scared easily to get into and support the genre. Some of them can even be decent films.

EDIT: To clarify I'm glad there are some PG-13 horror films but not particularly excited about the teenage/self-aware/mtv music video style horror flicks that have come out lately.

Thanks for the warning about the most recent in the Summer series. I'll avoid that one.

i dont know about anyone else .. maybe its my PC ... but i cant read that font without getting eye strain (lady frost)

Agreed. It is hard to read.

my pleasure for warning you Slayer666. But for the rest of you if you want to waste your time watching this movie, be my guest...but you have been warned!

im sorry for the font, but i like it so im going to keep it. unless i get more then ten posts from ten different people about font being hard to read then im going to keep it this way. So if you dont like it people then please tell me...i wouldnt want you guys to stop reading my posts because you cant read them.

Let me know all.

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