remaking HELLRAISER
 

According to Fangoria...

http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=2994

...Clive Barker himself is writing an upcoming HELLRAISER remake at the request of the Weinsteins. He says he's doing it because if he doesn't then somone else will write it and probably fuck it up.

so is this good news or bad news?

And before everyone starts posting "OMG enough with the remakes..." get used to it. Remakes have been going down since film began - it's simply how the world of cinema works. Yes we're going through a rather heavy spate of horror films being remakde right now, but they're making money, so expect more to come.

not a bad idea but the orginal was a great flick...i'm just a tad worried that it's gonna end up being 2 hours of CG scenes...film makers have adopted this too much is never enough additude with CG and i ,personally am tired of it..thats my one concern about it

Not gonna work.

Better Clive doing it than some hack, but I still dont think it's a very good idea.

A big budget theatrical sequel with Clive involved is what the series needs to get back on track IMO, not a remake. All the series needs is a bit of love and money, and I think another strong installment would be more than possible.

I can't see a reason to remake this movie, especially considering that there were 2 direct to video/DVD sequals that came out last year.

If Barker writes it, it should work, but it would be unfortunate if there's too much CG. It should be good news in the long run, and it would be cool to see some revamped cenobites. I don't see what more could be done with the franchise anyway. Unless of course they decided to make a Freddy vs. Pinhead movie, which might be sort of heavyhanded for Freddy fans.

I still refuse to believe every remake rumor I hear. A lot of these will never see the light of day

If they eventually get around to completing it and releasing it, I bet it will be a disappointment. Even Barker himself cannot do justice to a remake. A sequel or prequel, on the other hand, would have been a much better idea.

Goddamnit.

Looks like Barker needs money. Guess that attempt at being Neil Gaiman isn't working out so well for him. Honestly though, ol' Clive is a skilled screenwriter, so this could work out. I'll remain quite skeptical until it actually materializes, if ever.

there may be hope if they keep Doug Bradley as pinhead....

granted, they are fucking around with an icon.. but i never really liked hellraiser, so maynbe this will be good.



the weird thing for me is that they are now making remake sof movies that are a couple of decades old, whihc figures... But that i remember them clearly from childhood....

I remember seeing the poster for hellraiser at a theater and thinking "No thanks"...


I was a bit of a wuss when it came to horror when i was a kid.

Clive Barker is a sweetheart of a man - a real fan favorite for good reason ..
but despite owning everything he's done - i'm not a big fan.

i like the direction gaiman is going a lot better then the one Clive took.
like stephen king - his latter novels are pretty much just bloated excess as far as I'm concerned.

Books of Blood were great - i think he's better off with short stories. less room to meander.


as far as redoing hellraiser ... i'm one of the few people who bitch about remakes - but i think a bit more time should be put between the origional and the remake.

if the origional still holds the power - and is still fresh in the minds of the fans (the sequels are still coming out) - it seems like an ill timed idea that will mostly miss the intended mark of exposing new fans to the hellraiser series

"OMG enough with the remakes..."

In spite of an overabundance of whimsy, I think the Abarat setting has some potential, and his paintings are very distinctive and cool. It's a fun, dark fairy tale for another kind of audience. Barker has a great mind that doesn't like being held down by things, I would speculate it's one of the reasons he identifies with characters in all of these Faust legends he keeps retelling. His old brand of dark fantasy was getting redundant for him and his readers. Everville was a huge disappointment, and everything after that was pretty unpalatable. I don't think he's gotten too much like Gaiman, because Gaiman got too much like Gaiman and started to suffer from it, while Barker's expanding a bit. I don't think the Hellraiser remake will have any of the syrupy interludes that I will admit can hold the Abarat series down, but I'm pretty sure that it won't be the same thing the original was. Barker has a much more peaceful mind and spirit than he used to and might therefore have a more objective and cerebral take on things. We might be able to expect a more brooding, subtle intelligent Hellraiser. And remember, if you read enough Carl Jung, everything's a remake.

im a big hellraiser fan n wud hate 2 see it remade, even if it is clive barker doin it.
why cant clive make somthing complety original. that wud b gd 2 see!!

I hate all these remakes, but at least Clive's involvement should make it better than if they just gave it to Toilet Boll.

Wow.... I will see it no dout

but still... wow

In cases where I really liked the original (and Hellraiser is such a case), I'm almost afraid to see the remake.

a fav of mine so they better not piss it up or sell it out.....seriously ill be afraid to see it too......just like i havnt seen the wickerman remake cause i love the original

*nevermind*

The new Wickerman is good for a laugh...not good for much else though, Im afraid.

Nick Cage in a giant bear suit beating the crap out of a mob of women....fucking hilarious. Wasnt supposed to be, of course...but I was laughing my ass off. One of the most unintentionally funny movies Ive ever seen.

This remake bullshit is getting old.I really don't care much for Hellraiser, but ,FUCK!!! Give the shit a rest!!!
Remakes are now my pet peeve!

BTW, do you notice that in the upcoming horror movies most of the movies are remakes? It is really pissing me off.

it's always been like that....

i remember reading that "it won't be the pinhead we all know and love". that means, no doug bradley? and also, why change pinhead? that's stupid!!!

olo! :eek:
i supose i could give it a try....when its cheap or on tv....or some other cheaper way :rolleyes:

about the remake...
 

Well, this was inevitable. I was angry when I first read this as a exclusive from Clive Barker's official site Revelations (www.clivebarker.info), I was really upset that Bob Weinstein had contacted Clive to do a remake of the first Hellraiser, right after they had run the franchise to the ground with laughable budgets and shooting the last couple of DTV sequels in Romania back-to-back using local talent.

I was really venting when I found out Clive had said yes to writing it, and might even be involved in the production. It's like asking Picasso to repaint the Guernica! I honestly couldn't (and still can't) understand why he would agree to reshaping his original work. It's like having someone come back to the museum and add a few more brush strokes to a painting in a museum, completely painting over the canvas.

Then the idea has been settling with time. I still reserve judgement as this could go either way, they might do it or not, and it sure will take a long time to get this film project greenlighted and really into the early stages of production.

But Clive still has to finish and publish "The Scarlet Gospels", and after that he needs to get the books 3 and 4 of Abarat done too. I don't predict a very good future for his re-writing of the Hellraiser script, he has a very special pace (sloooooow) of doing things, and I'm guessing that he might lose the train if this project is moving forward. Then we'd be left with a really crappy sequel project for Hellraiser.

I'm excited in a little way because Clive has just been doing the touch ups on the Scarlet Gospels and thus, has this whole landscape of Hell and Pinhead fresh in his mind. For those of you who don't know, Scarlet Gospels is a book where Harry D'Amour meets Pinhead and rescues some people from Hell. That's the good news. The bad news is this Hell is a real Judaeo Christian hell from what has transpired from interviews and such. There's Christ and Lucifer in the mix there too, and this kind of denies everything the movie series and the comics had created over the years (the Hellraiser 'hell' as a parallel dimension where Leviathan rules, there is no moral judgements there or damned souls in the religious term of the word, and only the discipline of flesh in the war for Order).

So I'm sure everything we know and love from the original Hellraiser will pretty much be discarded or repurposed (No Labyrinth, no Leviathan) and probably be replaced with a much more interesting but severely different mythology.

Pinhead has also been said to be a very important character, albeit very different from Doug Bradley's portrayal. It is very unsure if Doug will have any input in this possible remake.

I would like to believe that the franchise wouldn't end on a couple of crappy DTV sequels that are an eyesore to watch. But a Remake?

Like I said, mixed feelings.

I just hope this is a chance to do a good movie, or a couple of good movies (am I greedy aiming for a trilogy?) that bring Hellraiser to a new audience and back into the theatres, and not just another cheap way to milk a franchise with a one shot crappy remake or worse, milking the cow this might bring, following the remake with a couple more crappy sequels, again.

if clive barker signs on without bradley, that's a fucking travesty, since they are friends from wayback. I will obviously see this movie at some point, but I am EXTREMELY wary of it. They should have just made "Cenobites gone wild" and had an hour and a half of cenobites tearing the shit out of people, although i guess that's what the series turned into anyhoo.

why must they remake everything?

Id rather see Clive rewrite it than let some music video director use it as his debut and put a bunch of (c)rock & (c)rap music in it. At least, he has the hindsight of 20/20 to go back and redo some of the things he may have hated about his original and add things he's thought about throughout the years since. But personally, I think the original is perfect and shouldnt be fucked with at all. If anything I'd rather just see him do another sequel or a prequel. I dont care who's in it as long as it's not a bunch of brat packers from WB/UPN/CW.

Hyperbole, thy name is antipax.

Niiiiiiice:D

*bows*







filler

New Faith in Success of Hellraiser Remake
 

Here is what the man himself had to say about the anticipated Hellraiser remake:

where'd you find that?

A Clive Barker website. I am sure it was from a magazine interview (Probably "Fangoria"), but it didn't say.

I think its good news though.

As great as it is to hear that Barker will be writing it, why bother? The original is great. Why not put that money to better use and make a.. *gasp* new movie? Oh yeah... Sorry. I forgot. Hollywood sucks ass... :mad:

There was a thread about this earlier.... Part of me wants to believe that the horror industry is less concerned with money as it is with keeping REAL horror alive in the a decade dominated by torture porn, and this is why there has been a recent resurgence in horror remakes. Of course, it could be just about squeezing as much money from franchises as possible.

Of course, where is the Hellraiser series supposed to go after Hellworld? Is that where directors hoping to make a new (non-sucky) Hellraiser film have to go from? I think remakes are a good way to renew interest in these franchises so that more, potentially better-quality additions can be made. Look what a clean slate did for the Batman fanchise; a direct sequel to the last one would have been horrendous, so filmmakers resurrected it. So I guess my point is that there is a slim chance this remake will be bad, which is good news for fans of the original 3 films.

If the horror industry wasn't concerned about money would we be seeing Saw 4 (and god forbid even 5 later this year), Hostel 2, Final Destination 4, or countless remakes of Japanese horror films? Sorry to burst your bubble, but the horror industry is just as money hungry as any other genre of the industry. Remakes are just a way to suck even more money out of a franchise. There's no altruistic motive behind it. It's all about money. Of course the film companies don't want to risk money so they go for the easy cash. Michael, Freddy, and Jason all raked in the money in bucketloads in the past. Hence why they're all being remade now.

Personally I think the Batman remake is an anomoly. Not only is it an amazing move forward for the franchise, but it's also the best comic hero adaptation to date. It is definitely not the norm as far as I'm concerned.

As for Hellraiser, I've only watched up to whatever the fourth one was called. Hellraiser 3 made me want to puke it was that bad. It was so completely against the Hellraiser/Cenobite mythos it was just painful to watch. I specifically remember seeing it in the theater and less than an hour later I couldn't remember how it ended. A sure sugn of a great movie if I've ever heard of one. ;) I have hazy recollections of 4, but I feel it's better to just leave them like that. I love the whole Hellraiser mythos, but the movies should have stopped with 2.

I had no bubble to burst. Of course I know its money-hungry. Its still Hollywood, is it not?

No, its certainly not the norm, but it was a source of some hope for me that franchises gone sour can be resurrected. As for best comic hero adaptation, Batman Begins is pretty good, but its no Spider-man 2.

Yeah, Hellbound isn't that bad, Barker still had a hand in making it. Ebert really hates this movie though, and makes a good case for why. I agree that no more should have been made, but when producers see dollar signs, nothing can stop them.

New Hellraiser
 

I read this is happening in a magazine is this confirmed?!?