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Vodstok 08-09-2006 12:11 PM

Oh COME ON!
 
Ok, there are things out ther ein horror movies that i dont care how big a fan you are, they just get old and annoying after a while. please share your own as much as you can.

Firstly. What an amzing coincidence that in every werewolf movie, there just happnes to be a sliver SOMETHING capable of killing it. Dog Soldiers is semi guilty, but at least they gave a reason for the silver knife, and 90% of the werewolves were blown up.

Zombie movie issue. i have been plagued by this since the beginning of my love of zombie flicks. Rednecks spend a lot of time hunting. Police people (swat included) and military personel are trained with guns. maybe 1 out of every 4 people has enough experience with a gun to make good, accurate shots. Why then is everyone in your averag zombie movie a marksman that can pop a human being in the dead center of their forehead from across a football field while running?

Vampires are immortal, powerful, intelligent creatures. So why are all of them (except Dracula) in every movie basically blood sucking zombies that can be killed by a poke to the chest? My #1 gripe with From Dusk Til Dawn and Buffy the show were what kind of threat is a vampire that can be killed by flicking a toothpick at it?

Why, why, WHY doesnt anyone go apeshit on the badguy?The "hero" slaps the villain with a baseball bat and assumes they are dead. beat him until his head is mushy and has lost it's shape! Then he is dead! i garuntee it!
28 Days later got that one right. Jim brutalized and killed that bastard at the end. THATS how it's done. Go all crazy lowland gorilla on them and pound or shoot them until their corpse doesnt look like it could ever move.

Zero 08-09-2006 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok

Why then is everyone in your averag zombie movie a marksman that can pop a human being in the dead center of their forehead from across a football field while running?

Why, why, WHY doesnt anyone go apeshit on the badguy?The "hero" slaps the villain with a baseball bat and assumes they are dead. beat him until his head is mushy and has lost it's shape!

agreed on the first one I thought that Romero's Dawn of the Dead did a good job with that - the swat members were good shots, but the other two had to be trained to shoot. . . the remake made it out that everyone could fire while running and hit the head everytime (and as a person who has fired many a handgun and rifel all I can say is . . .no no no freakin way)

On the second point, that was my biggest gripe about the otherwise very strong Wolf Creek - she knocks him out, hits him once (lightly) with a board and then runs away - - - after seeing his hanging corpses and her friend tied up to be next. . .hell no - you go ape on him (and as a monkey I can say that!)

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:20 PM

Re: Oh COME ON!
 
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Originally posted by Vodstok
Ok, there are things out ther ein horror movies that i dont care how big a fan you are, they just get old and annoying after a while. please share your own as much as you can.

Firstly. What an amzing coincidence that in every werewolf movie, there just happnes to be a sliver SOMETHING capable of killing it. Dog Soldiers is semi guilty, but at least they gave a reason for the silver knife, and 90% of the werewolves were blown up.

Zombie movie issue. i have been plagued by this since the beginning of my love of zombie flicks. Rednecks spend a lot of time hunting. Police people (swat included) and military personel are trained with guns. maybe 1 out of every 4 people has enough experience with a gun to make good, accurate shots. Why then is everyone in your averag zombie movie a marksman that can pop a human being in the dead center of their forehead from across a football field while running?

Vampires are immortal, powerful, intelligent creatures. So why are all of them (except Dracula) in every movie basically blood sucking zombies that can be killed by a poke to the chest? My #1 gripe with From Dusk Til Dawn and Buffy the show were what kind of threat is a vampire that can be killed by flicking a toothpick at it?

Why, why, WHY doesnt anyone go apeshit on the badguy?The "hero" slaps the villain with a baseball bat and assumes they are dead. beat him until his head is mushy and has lost it's shape! Then he is dead! i garuntee it!
28 Days later got that one right. Jim brutalized and killed that bastard at the end. THATS how it's done. Go all crazy lowland gorilla on them and pound or shoot them until their corpse doesnt look like it could ever move.

I agree with all, and the last one the most. I mean, to hell with letting Michael Myers get back up. He may be immortal, but without a head, he can't do shit!

Thomasgeorge 08-09-2006 12:20 PM

and when someone is running and then they fall over

PR3SSUR3 08-09-2006 12:21 PM

I think in many cases, if too much logic and reality is allowed to creep into horror and fantasy movies then the excitement is lost and there would be no movie.

In Wolf Creek, had the girls further shot the baddie in his lair or smashed his head in with heavy objects and killed him... no more tension.

Tom Savini's character 'Sex Machine' explains the situation with the vampires in From Dusk 'Till Dawn: "These vamps... they're strong, but they have soft bodies...".

Zero 08-09-2006 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricClown
I agree with all, and the last one the most. I mean, to hell with letting Michael Myers get back up. He may be immortal, but without a head, he can't do shit!
Bush has been going without a brain for years and he's still going strong. . .

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Thomasgeorge
and when someone is running and then they fall over
And screaming while running...Just hide, don't run and scream!

The STE 08-09-2006 12:22 PM

Re: Oh COME ON!
 
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Originally posted by Vodstok
Why, why, WHY doesnt anyone go apeshit on the badguy?The "hero" slaps the villain with a baseball bat and assumes they are dead. beat him until his head is mushy and has lost it's shape! Then he is dead! i garuntee it!
28 Days later got that one right. Jim brutalized and killed that bastard at the end. THATS how it's done. Go all crazy lowland gorilla on them and pound or shoot them until their corpse doesnt look like it could ever move.

That's the one thing I liked about Curse of Michael Myers. Paul Rudd and the rest of them are all walking away, Rudd shakes his head, turns and just beats the SHIT out of Michael's head with the led pipe.

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
Bush has been going without a brain for years and he's still going strong. . .
Good point....If Michael Myers becomes real....We're all dead. :(

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
That's the one thing I liked about Curse of Michael Myers. Paul Rudd and the rest of them are all walking away, Rudd shakes his head, turns and just beats the SHIT out of Michael's head with the led pipe.
*********SPOILER ALERT**********

Vodstok 08-09-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
On the second point, that was my biggest gripe about the otherwise very strong Wolf Creek - she knocks him out, hits him once (lightly) with a board and then runs away - - - after seeing his hanging corpses and her friend tied up to be next. . .hell no - you go ape on him (and as a monkey I can say that!)
No kidding. i fucking blew up at that part.... I know that itis convenient to do that to keep the movie going, but... Its a cop out. Make smarter bad guys. That is one area where i liked Hostel, when Paxton got loose, he just killed them. he didnt tap them on the head and leave them, he shot them. plain and simple.

PR3SSUR3 08-09-2006 12:27 PM

This should be renamed 'The Spoiler Thread'.

Zero 08-09-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricClown
Good point....If Michael Myers becomes real....We're all dead. :(
they'd just make him Secretary of State - - - he's the "talk softly and carry a big butcher knife" kind of diplomat

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:28 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
they'd just make him Secretary of State - - - he's the "talk softly and carry a big butcher knife" kind of diplomat
Brainstorm!- New movie idea. :D

The STE 08-09-2006 12:29 PM

instead of bombs, we should drop horror movie villains on Iraq and Afghanistan.

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
instead of bombs, we should drop horror movie villains on Iraq and Afghanistan.
:D Now there we go. We'd win for sure!

bloodrayne 08-09-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricClown
And screaming while running...Just hide, don't run and scream!
OMG...That one is the WORST for me (Just ask Dustin, I'm sure he gets tired of hearing me yell at the TV screen :D)....I swear, I'm always saying "Just shut your stupid mouth and run"...Makes ME wanna kill the stupid fucking bitches...GRRRRR


Oh...And...The car NEVER starts...That's just TOO lame...I mean seriously...All of these nice, new cars (in MOST movies), and none of them start...OR how about you shoot, bump, or roll a car and it explodes?...We just spent 2 days at the Demolition Derby watching people ram the shit outta each others cars, smash 'em into concrete walls, even run over the tops of 'em, and all we got was a few small fires...NO explosions...

Vodstok 08-09-2006 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by PR3SSUR3
I think in many cases, if too much logic and reality is allowed to creep into horror and fantasy movies then the excitement is lost and there would be no movie.

In Wolf Creek, had the girls further shot the baddie in his lair or smashed his head in with heavy objects and killed him... no more tension.

Tom Savini's character 'Sex Machine' explains the situation with the vampires in From Dusk 'Till Dawn: "These vamps... they're strong, but they have soft bodies...".

Dusk til dawn gave themselves an out, but its still a cop out. The vampires were mindless. its like the creatures are from theoriginal Doom, they just run at the victims until killed. At least in Dog Soldeirs, the werewolves would get hurt and back off.

Zombies are mindless by nature, so of course they dont know to run.

Vampires were initially established as one thing, but it's too hard to make them cerebral, so they just turn them into, like i said, bloodsucking zombies. Not to mention, you get a scratch from one, and in 2 minutes, you are a one too...:rolleyes:


its taking the easy way out. The writers have a habit of painting themselv3es into a corner, then bullshitting their way out. It's not a technique i use, and i dont respect it.

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
OMG...That one is the WORST for me (Just ask Dustin, I'm sure he gets tired of hearing me yell at the TV screen :D)....I swear, I'm always saying "Just shut your stupid mouth and run"...Makes ME wanna kill the stupid fucking bitches...GRRRRR


Oh...And...The car NEVER starts...Just just TOO lame...I mean seriously...All of these nice, new cars (in MOST movies), and none of them start...OR how about you shoot, bump, or roll a car and it explodes?...We just spent 2 days at the Demolition Derby watching people ram the shit outta each others cars, smash 'em into concrete walls, even run over the tops of 'em, and all we got was a few small fires...NO explosions...

I forgot about that. I'm watching Masters Of Horror: Homecoming right now, and that happens. It's a nice car, looks brand new, and he can't start it....If something ever happened, the HDC residents will be ready. :D

Vodstok 08-09-2006 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
OMG...That one is the WORST for me (Just ask Dustin, I'm sure he gets tired of hearing me yell at the TV screen :D)....I swear, I'm always saying "Just shut your stupid mouth and run"...Makes ME wanna kill the stupid fucking bitches...GRRRRR


Oh...And...The car NEVER starts...Just just TOO lame...I mean seriously...All of these nice, new cars (in MOST movies), and none of them start...OR how about you shoot, bump, or roll a car and it explodes?...We just spent 2 days at the Demolition Derby watching people ram the shit outta each others cars, smash 'em into concrete walls, even run over the tops of 'em, and all we got was a few small fires...NO explosions...

how about people falling 50 feet with an "oof!" then getting up and running. Ive known people who fell 6 feet out of a tree and broke a limb...

And thisone kills me... 2 weeks ago, i cut my finger pretty deep. I went so far as to get light headed and sick to my stomach at one point and i am EXTREMELY tough. ive had to call 911 for myself 3 times in my life), but in the new Hills have eyes (on eof 2 gripes with it) and hostel, there are characters that lose several fingers, and are "all good" whithin minutes.

That is one thing Wolf Creek got right. that girl lost her fingers and flipped the fuck out.

Kemal 08-09-2006 12:37 PM

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Why, why, WHY doesnt anyone go apeshit on the badguy?The "hero" slaps the villain with a baseball bat and assumes they are dead. beat him until his head is mushy and has lost it's shape! Then he is dead! i garuntee it!
They actually did that in Jeepers Creepers.
The guy asks "Is it dead?" and the girl responds "they never are" or something like that, and proceeds to run over the creature repeatedly. It was pretty funny.

Zero 08-09-2006 12:37 PM

two films i liked in this regard - Scream- esp. where Sidney says she hates horror films because the stupid blondes always run upstairs when they should run out the door and then can't get out the front door and has to run upstairs.

i also liked high tension (ignoring for a moment the trick ending) where she does, indeed, hide without screaming

bloodrayne 08-09-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
how about people falling 50 feet with an "oof!" then getting up and running. Ive known people who fell 6 feet out of a tree and broke a limb...
Really?...I saw a guy fall out of a tree once, and he broke EVERY limb on the way down...Yup...Ruined the whole damned tree :p :D

newb 08-09-2006 12:41 PM

or...the female who is all alone in the big house and hears a noise in the dark basement [ oh...look at that...the light doesn't work ] and then goes down to investigate.

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by newb
or...the female who is all alone in the big house and hears a noise in the dark basement [ oh...look at that...the light doesn't work ] and then goes down to investigate.
Yeup...

Vodstok 08-09-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
Really?...I saw a guy fall out of a tree once, and he broke EVERY limb on the way down...Yup...Ruined the whole damned tree :p :D
HAHA!

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Originally posted by Kemal
They actually did that in Jeepers Creepers.
The guy asks "Is it dead?" and the girl responds "they never are" or something like that, and proceeds to run over the creature repeatedly. It was pretty funny.

That is part of the reason i liked that movie. At least they TRIED.

the new Hills Have eyes screwed up with this at one point (the shotgun, lizard... i woudl have put it in his mouth and pulled the trigger....), but whe jupiter was grabbing at the boy... what his sister did was great. None of this "eek, what do we do?" crap... Screaming pickaxe to the head. Good girl.

bloodrayne 08-09-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by newb
or...the female who is all alone in the big house and hears a noise in the dark basement [ oh...look at that...the light doesn't work ] and then goes down to investigate.
:o I do that...Lotsa times actually.......My kids always come to me with "I think I heard something in the basement (or outside, or upstairs...etcetera)"...So, I go check it out...

newb 08-09-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
:o I do that...Lotsa times actually.......My kids always come to me with "I think I heard something in the basement (or outside, or upstairs...etcetera)"...So, I go check it out...
Yeah....but you're Bloodrayne
http://creature-corner.com/nextraimages/bloodrayne.jpg

Vodstok 08-09-2006 12:47 PM

Hmph. i hear a noise outside, i go out with a hammer. i dont care if its a 12 year old being funny. it's not walking away....

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
:o I do that...Lotsa times actually.......My kids always come to me with "I think I heard something in the basement (or outside, or upstairs...etcetera)"...So, I go check it out...
Well I'm sure you can more than handle anything that's down there. ;)

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Vodstok
Hmph. i hear a noise outside, i go out with a hammer. i dont care if its a 12 year old being funny. it's not walking away....
A hammer?? Hell, I go out with a 28 inch knife that I keep near my bed. :D

Zero 08-09-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by newb
or...the female who is all alone in the big house and hears a noise in the dark basement [ oh...look at that...the light doesn't work ] and then goes down to investigate.
and yet no matter how much noise i make in the basement of attractive young females. . . they NEVER come downstairs! damnit life is unfair!

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
and yet no matter how much noise i make in the basement of attractive young females. . . they NEVER come downstairs! damnit life is unfair!
You're supposed to go give them a candle and cut the power....wait....Stefanie did something else with the candle when the light went out....Nevermind. :o

newb 08-09-2006 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
and yet no matter how much noise i make in the basement of attractive young females. . . they NEVER come downstairs! damnit life is unfair!
Thats because they don't want shit flung at them.


:D

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally posted by newb
Thats because they don't want shit flung at them.


:D

I wouldn't say that. It depends on the chick I think. :p

Zero 08-09-2006 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricClown
I wouldn't say that. It depends on the chick I think. :p
i believe introductions are in order!!

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Zero
i believe introductions are in order!!
:D Maybe, maybe not. What's my prize for it?

Thomasgeorge 08-09-2006 01:13 PM

and the phone is always cut off

VampiricClown 08-09-2006 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by Thomasgeorge
and the phone is always cut off
That's because the killer cuts the power.

Dude Guadalupe 08-09-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by bloodrayne
(Just ask Dustin, I'm sure he gets tired of hearing me yell at the TV screen :D)
Yes I do


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Originally posted by bloodrayne
Really?...I saw a guy fall out of a tree once, and he broke EVERY limb on the way down...Yup...Ruined the whole damned tree :p :D
I said I was sorry about the damn tree, let it go


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Originally posted by bloodrayne
:o I do that...Lotsa times actually.......My kids always come to me with "I think I heard something in the basement (or outside, or upstairs...etcetera)"...So, I go check it out...
I send her to check stuff out too........I'm such a sissy


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