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CHRIS24 07-04-2006 12:17 PM

will there ever be a true sequel to dawn of the dead
 
I have always loved the dead movies up until day of the dead. I always wanted to see a movie that went along with the same characters as in dawn of the dead and im not talking about the remake. They fly off in a helicopter and then what? Shit the day of the dead what the hell did that have anything to do with dawn of the dead.The goverment were experimenting on the zombies ok but what happened to the charachters in dawn of the dead, That shit pisses me off. Land of the dead the dead actually can go through large bodies of water and they begin to think. I donyt understand why romero cant write or somebody else for that matter write a good official sequel to the dawn of the dead. The land of the dead was a stupid piece of garbage.

urgeok 07-04-2006 12:27 PM

so by that reasoning .. Dawn of the Dead wasnt a proper sequal to Night of the living dead.

joshaube 07-04-2006 12:27 PM

I agree on Land of the Dead. I thought it was sort of rehased trash, and couldn't see why so many people enjoyed it. But then again, it seems every zombie movie rips off of it's siblings in most aspects.

I enjoyed Night and Dawn (original and remake), because they brought something deeper to the table. The amount of stuff related to the world in Night alone amazed me, even the accidental stuff such as casting an african american in one of the lead roles (it wasn't scripted that way) to make it metaphoric and controversial.

Land of the Dead brought nothing new to the table, and I felt bored the entire way through. Smart zombies pissed me off.

Speaking of the zombie genre as a whole, the entire thing is very badly thought-out. As it stands, the staple food for zombies is flesh and brains. Why? Don't ask me. Why can't they eat grass, or food in the markets? Hell if anyone knows. The fact they won't die unless you hit them in certain parts of their bodies is also shitiful.

Shoot them in the arm, leg, chest, anywhere and NOTHING is effected. Shooting them in the brain kills them. I can see a reason for that.

As I see it, zombies are just regenerated human beings. They're bodies are restored to life, and their organs begin to function once again. If you shoot them in an organ, that organ should stop functioning and effect the zombie as a whole. If it's leg is cut off, the severed leg SHOULD NOT move. It couldn't. It is not attached and makes no sense for it to move since it's muscles and tendons are detached and out of service.

Of course this whole train of thought it silly, and you might say "Shut the fuck up, it's just a movie." But I dunno, I like to rant about things and share my opinions.

urgeok 07-04-2006 12:31 PM

the little girl in night of the living dead killed with a tool ... (a trowel in the basement)

that made her a smart zombie from the get go.


i think the people making these films didnt get hung up on the logic .. they just wanted to present a movie that would scare people and gross them out (and in romero's case also adding a little social commentary)

the 'rules' were made up to serve the story line ..

CHRIS24 07-04-2006 12:52 PM

ok you got me on the night and the dawn not tottally drawn out. I like how in the first one its in the farm country not populated by many but the second one spans off into the urban choas bigger city bigger problem.The main idea dissapears why did they turn into zombies. Every film from romero hasnt explained the orgin of the zombie.One point there. the second is Land of the dead what was the whole stupid idea of a fortified metropolis of rich people living in a tower guarded by a fence so zombies cant get in. Stupid ass plot I dont care about a fortified city I care about what happened to the people on a island to seek refuge or what happened to the people flying out on the helicopter. Wasnt there Talks or rumours of a Twilight of the dead thats a hell of a lot better title to a decent zombie flick than land of the dead.

filmmaker2 07-04-2006 01:35 PM

There are reports of these creatures using tools. The use...of external articles as bludgeons and soforth...I might point out that even animals will adopt the basic use of tools in this manner. Intelligence? Seemingly little or no...REASONING power...what basic skills remain are mainly remembered behaviors from normal life.

filmmaker2 07-04-2006 01:37 PM

These creatures are nothing more than pure, motorized, instinct. We must not be lulled by the concept that these are our family members or our friends. They are not; they will not respond to such emotions! They, must, be, destroyed, on, SIGHT.

PR3SSUR3 07-04-2006 02:19 PM

Agreed on Land of the Dead, and it demonstrates how a film as raw, unpolished and personal as Dawn of the Dead simply cannot be made today - at least not via a major studio.

Cheap thrills and gloss is the order of the day, as the recent empty, cheaply thrilling and glossy remakes of the old classics clearly show.

Also, the likes of Romero, Carpenter and Hooper are older now, less passionate... more digital. I have often wondered what it would take for one of these men to create as much of a stir in the horror scene as they once did - but somehow it seems impossible.

So far as a sequel to Dawn of the Dead goes, it is a nice idea, but as a firm championer of inconclusive and thought provoking endings I cannot agree with it.

CHRIS24 07-04-2006 06:34 PM

WELL I BET ya one of us on this site could write a better storyline to follow up on the dawn of the dead better than any rich ass hollywoood smo.

Posher778 07-04-2006 07:12 PM

Who cares, there's plenty of other zombie movies that I think are way better than Dawn anyway. Just pretend the fucking chopper hit a building and they all died.

CHRIS24 07-04-2006 07:25 PM

in your which r?

Despare 07-05-2006 03:33 AM

Bub was learning and in time it made sense that the zombies would eventually learn a little bit being as their brain didn't die... just their body. I wouldn't say that made the zombies "smart", they were distracted by fireworks for the longest time. I liked the fact that the zombies kind of evolved, made things interesting. It's not like they were performing surgery on each other, one of them just (barely) learned how to fire a gun and I'm sure he couldn't have reloaded it. I would like to know if Romero was happy with Land because it was his vision, his rules, and his zombies.

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Originally posted by joshaube
IAs I see it, zombies are just regenerated human beings. They're bodies are restored to life, and their organs begin to function once again. If you shoot them in an organ, that organ should stop functioning and effect the zombie as a whole. If it's leg is cut off, the severed leg SHOULD NOT move. It couldn't. It is not attached and makes no sense for it to move since it's muscles and tendons are detached and out of service.

They insinuate through radio broadcasts in Night that these creatures started coming back because of an unknown radiation eminating from a satellite. Obviously it's something more than simple regeneration of the flesh and leaves the door open for many changes and theories. We're just lucky in the second film Romero didn't decide to have the space radiation cause mutations and cause the zombies to become bigger, stronger, and faster.

CHRIS24 07-05-2006 03:50 PM

well Im starting think it was a good idea to have just one smart zombie but keep the rest really stupid kinda makes things more interesting but the setting was shit.

The STE 07-05-2006 03:57 PM

Yes. It's going to be called Rush Hour of the Dead and star Chris Tucker and Jackie Chan

Posher778 07-06-2006 03:49 PM

Well, I actually didn't like any of Romero's living Dead movies. Isn't that strange?

filmmaker2 07-06-2006 04:12 PM

A few years ago I might have thought that a little strange. But in my travels, I have run into a few people who did not like Romero's films--you know, horror fans or science fiction fans, but not fans of these particular films. Of course, now there is a greater variety of zombie films to choose from. We have slow, we have medium slow, we have quick and we have fast. A zombie for every taste, every whim!

CHRIS24 07-06-2006 05:37 PM

THE FAST ONES I WOULDNT WANT TO BE CONFRONTED WITH. THE SLOW ONES WOULD BE FUN TO MESS WITH A BASEBALL BAT OR JUST TARGET PRACTICE.

Despare 07-06-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by CHRIS24
THE FAST ONES I WOULDNT WANT TO BE CONFRONTED WITH. THE SLOW ONES WOULD BE FUN TO MESS WITH A BASEBALL BAT OR JUST TARGET PRACTICE.
You think so, until their numbers get to be too much. You swing and swing and your bat does connect, it even tears dead flesh away from a countless number of the walking corpses. However, more just keep coming and they eventually surround and eviscerate you. Later they'll play your bat.

CHRIS24 07-06-2006 06:33 PM

WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IS A STORYLINE OF JUST SOME ORDINARY PERSON WHO LIVES OUT AWAY FROM EVERYBODY SAY OUT IN THE COUNTRY NOT VERY POPULATED ALOT OF FARMERS AND AND VAST LAND AND PUT A ZOMBIE SCENARIO INTO THE MIX.i THINK JUST FOLLOWING ONE PERSON FROM WHEN HE WAKES UP AND UNTIL HE REALIZES WHAT GOING ON BUT DONT THROW SOME STUPID BULLSHIT CHARACHTERS THAT HE RUNS INTO LIKE DAWN OF THE DEAD IN LIKE SOME RANDOM PLACE.HE CAN RUN INTO PEOPLE BUT NOT FORM A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.jUST FOLLOW HIS EVERY MOVE. oRIGINAL AS THAT

Despare 07-06-2006 07:02 PM

Oooo or how about a zombie movie set in the future where humans have killed off most of the zombies and the ones that do remain are weak because they haven't eaten. The catch is, a lawn was passed to stop them from being killed after they no longer "posed a threat" so now they're simply treated as second class citizens, like bums, and stepped over and on... simply ignored. Until that is, one of them gets a taste of blood again which sparks the zombies to begin attacking again, slowly at first, and turning humans back into the undead!? No... it would suck... you putz.

Honestly, you don't think you'd run across other survivors and think you had a better chance with more help? "No thanks... I'll take my chances alone." Arm up, group up, stock up, and board up. Just don't let anybody slow you down, stay with the strong.

Posher778 07-06-2006 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by CHRIS24
WHAT THEY NEED TO MAKE IS A STORYLINE OF JUST SOME ORDINARY PERSON WHO LIVES OUT AWAY FROM EVERYBODY SAY OUT IN THE COUNTRY NOT VERY POPULATED ALOT OF FARMERS AND AND VAST LAND AND PUT A ZOMBIE SCENARIO INTO THE MIX.i THINK JUST FOLLOWING ONE PERSON FROM WHEN HE WAKES UP AND UNTIL HE REALIZES WHAT GOING ON BUT DONT THROW SOME STUPID BULLSHIT CHARACHTERS THAT HE RUNS INTO LIKE DAWN OF THE DEAD IN LIKE SOME RANDOM PLACE.HE CAN RUN INTO PEOPLE BUT NOT FORM A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.jUST FOLLOW HIS EVERY MOVE. oRIGINAL AS THAT
Stop typing in all caps, its annoying as hell.

PR3SSUR3 07-07-2006 02:00 AM

It's cool - he sometimes uses lower case to begin new sentences.


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