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RavageRitual 02-23-2006 08:48 PM

The Story Of My Suspension.
 
The reason im writing this is, I want to know what everyone here thinks about how I acted upon this. Do you think I dod the right thing or was I so wrong with what I did that im a sick fucker?

Anyway...the story behind my suspension...

Ive had this friend named Tonee since pre-school, shes the sweetest girl ever and I love her like my own sister. The only thing is , Tonee is over weight , and she is very self conscious about it.

This is this one guy named Brett that goes to school with us, and ever since day 1 ( about 5 months ago) Brett has made comments towards tonee like

You will always be ugly
You will never loose weight
Your a fatass

Tonee and I told the teacher on more than one occasion about the problem. But he never did anything about it.

Thier would be days that Brett's harrasment towards Tonee would make her so down that she would go into the Girl's locker room and cry for the rest of the class period.

It wasnt untill 2 days ago that I finnaly said to myself, If I dont do anything about this. This will never stop.

So I trapped Brett in this one room, and took the closest thing to me ( which happened to be a pear of tongs.) I took the tongs and a grabbed the skin on his arm and ripped it off. Brett immediatly started bleeding, I decided I would attack him with the tongs about 2 or 3 more times, then I decided to quit.

To make this already long story shorter, I ended up being suspended from school for god knows how long. They took pictures of his bloody arm and are currently decided whether or not to press charges against me. My instructor is on thin ice, because his boss found out how this whole thing could have been solved months ago if he would have done something about it when we originally came to him.

Fortunatly, Im backed up pretty well by all the girls. They all say he deserved what I did to him. But I dont know if I agree. Im paying the price now.

I just want to know what all of you think about this situation.

-Sam

The STE 02-23-2006 09:02 PM

fuck 'im. You'll have to deal with some repurcussions, but in the end he deserved what he got

filmmaker2 02-23-2006 09:04 PM

I think you should have talked to someone besides your instructor, if you felt the situation was not being handled properly by your instructor. Just my two cents.

GorePhobia 02-23-2006 09:06 PM

In my honest opinion you should have punched him in the face a few times. Would have been better and less severe on your part. Ripping his skin off makes you look crazy lol. I would have uppercut him and that would have been the end of it.

Just my opinion

The STE 02-23-2006 09:07 PM

actually, the crazy thing works in your favor, cause there's a 99.9% chance that he's not going to fuck with her anymore.

VampiricClown 02-23-2006 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The STE
fuck 'im. You'll have to deal with some repurcussions, but in the end he deserved what he got
I'm with STE here. Any sick fuck that would go around making comments to hurt people intentionally should get exactly what you gave him if not worse.

If that had been someone saying shit about my girlfriend or any of my female friends for that matter(males can fend for themselves), They wouldn't have been able to walk away very well. And all of hell know's, don't lay a hand on any of them. :mad:

If anyone's sick for giving people what they deserve, it would be me.

Despare 02-23-2006 09:34 PM

Back in high school I used to fight daily, I loved fighting for some reason. Hell I had the record in school suspension days for a while. Bottom line is, as long as you move past it your fine. I grew up, realized fighting wasn't all it was cracked up to be, and everything turned out fine. Is this your first incident? If so I'm sure you'll be just fine. They have a rule about blood now in my old school so I'm told that it's an automatic suspension if somebody bleeds or some crap, same there? Anyway, once it blows over, you have your few days off, it should all be fine and I think you did the right thing only I would've threw a few knees or punches because hey, you're in trouble at that point already right? Just don't let this thing keep going, you don't want it to continue you know? His freinds come up and harass you causing more crap... these things can get ugly. Just relax on your days off, do your homework, and put it behind you. Got any pictures of his arm?

Babygurl20 02-24-2006 01:38 AM

I believe that you went a little to far. I agree that the asshole should have gotten a good beating, but ripping his skin off is a bit drastic. So I am gonna say that you did good standing up for her, but you are also getting what you deserve for what you did to him. That is just my opinion.

RavageRitual 02-24-2006 04:24 AM

Thanks everyone for your comments.

Filmmaker- Yea ive already been told by the principal that I should have went to him about the situation instead of my instructor.

Despare- This is my first time I have done anything to land me Out OF School Suspension. I usually have in school.
Also, I know my mom has some pictures of it under her name so ill try to snoop around a lil bit and look for em.

cheebacheeba 02-24-2006 05:08 AM

Take it from a guy that was expelled over one violent incident after maintaining an almost perfect,...well...noit almost perfect, but an "ok" kinda record - If this shit doesn't get you expelled, which in all honesty, it could, even after a suspension...mind your temper.
Attacking the guy on school grounds was stupid, I don't care what the guy did...for that matter...the girl shouldn't take to heart what a fuckwit like this says, you should've told her this instead of acting upon it. Frankly, if she values his opinion on her physical condition, it's on her. You shouldn't have acted on it, in all honesty, and bringing a weapon into the mix is a whole 'nother shitload of potential trouble...however, sometimes you don't think when you're angry, I get that, and now you probably get it too - I trust this will be different in the future and maybe you'll think things over some.
For future reference, if you're planning on attacking someone, I'd suggest you do it outside school grounds, with minimal witnesses.

Think things through.
I hope this ends better for you than it did me.

1beastieibe 02-24-2006 09:01 AM

:mad:

1beastieibe 02-24-2006 09:01 AM

Yeah maybe the skin ripping was a bit odd, but whatever. When I was in High School my best friend who was 5'1 and 90 pounds who could not defend herself was picked on by a much larger girl because she thought she might steal her boyfriend. Well one day after school she jumped her beat the shit out of her, and locked her in her shed. When I found out I drug her outta her house by her hair, took her outside and bashed her face in the sidewalk till it was almost unreconizable. The neighbors called the cops, and I was taken to a juvinelle detion center. Luckily my mom was cool about it, and witness's lied a little for me, and they also took in to consideration she locked my friend in her shed. So I got off pretty easy.

Needless to say she never messed with us again, and NO ONE ever messed with my friend, or even looked at her funny. It is still a talked about event 10 years later, and I dont regret any of it! Even I f I would have been in a lot more trouble, it would have been worth it!

RavageRitual 02-24-2006 09:04 AM

Thanks Cheeba for the comment, I know what I did was stupid and I really regret doing it in school

And Beastie...you are lucky lol

The_Return 02-24-2006 07:34 PM

Be sure to tell us how this turns out man.

Id give my two cents, but it would basically echo a few other members. Good job, he deserved it 100%, maybe you went an eensy weensy bit too far...yadda yadda yadda.

Hopefully this doesnt turn out too bad for you man...

RavageRitual 02-25-2006 07:26 AM

Well, im suspended from school for 1 week, This monday will be my 3rd day of suspension. Im also grounded at home, but that doesnt bother me that much because I can sit here and Post. But I think I got away pretty lucky. They were looking at filing charges. And I got away with it.

Despare 02-25-2006 07:30 AM

I still want to know more about this skin ripping though. Are we talking a big chunk of skin or did the tongs squeeze too hard and pinch a little skin off?

zomb5150 02-25-2006 08:31 AM

are You crazy?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GorePhobia
In my honest opinion you should have punched him in the face a few times. Would have been better and less severe on your part. Ripping his skin off makes you look crazy lol. I would have uppercut him and that would have been the end of it.

Just my opinion

Dude....You attacked someone with a pair of tongs:confused:
I'd have to agree with GorePhobia, You should've just punched Him.

Kids these days.:(

Posher778 02-25-2006 08:37 AM

I think you did the right thing by standing up at him and attacking him about it... but why tongs? shoulda just kicked his ass.

scouse mac 02-25-2006 11:05 AM

You definately did the right thing with regards to the bully fuck. The only problem with things like this is that you made a conscious decision to use a weapon instead of going with the 'it all happened so fast I dont know what I was doing' punches. If anything else should come of this just remember that no matter how big or tough they are, one swift knee in the happy sacks and they drop like anyone else.

Soloman Kane 02-25-2006 11:24 AM

Guess What
 
Your young enough where none of this will appear on your record. Sit back relax & bask in the knowledge that you helped build character for some asshole who should have had his ass kicked before this. Maybe he'll think again before making. He won't look at a pair of tongs the same again.

Marroe 02-25-2006 11:46 AM

So...a gun shot, or a stabbing would be equivelent to a punch in the mouth?

Marroe 02-25-2006 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Well, not that drastic. But in my high school, that would have been an option.:p
Quote:

Tongs, pocket knife, straight razor, or just an old fashioned ass kicking. None of those things makes a difference.
You included everything but the gun:confused:

Marroe 02-25-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Well ya cant kill the kid yet. He has to go through the suffering that he put that poor girl through first. If he doesnt learn after that then put a cap in him.:p
They're kids!! In high school! Very impressionable...make a good impresssion on them and they will change. Tell em to go shoot or stab someone and they just might.

filmmaker2 02-25-2006 12:20 PM

Just another two cents from me here, but I have noticed...that people are really casual about encouraging other people to violence. In my opinion it's very irresponsible to do that. This is a horror message board; discussing the violence in horror films with some enthusiasm, well that's one thing. It's fictional. Clamoring for and encouraging real-life violence? Sorry, but I don't approve.

monalisa 02-25-2006 07:28 PM

Now this is just my opinion, but what would have been really great is if Ravage held the kid while the girl he was picking on kicked the little fuckwad's ass.

Yellow Jacket 02-25-2006 08:55 PM

The kid deserved what he got! Sure, maybe ripping his skin off was a little over the top (I would of bashed his face into the wall a few times until he bled), and you should do your time (not in jail though). If something happens to you on this one, and we won't see you in awhile, we'll miss you and I'll wish you the best of luck! Just remember: next time, use your fists (or the wall), not tongs.

MichaelMyers 02-25-2006 09:30 PM

Re: are You crazy?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by zomb5150
Dude....You attacked someone with a pair of tongs:confused:

ahaha

RavageRitual 02-25-2006 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by trippin_the_rif
Tongs, pocket knife, straight razor, or just an old fashioned ass kicking. None of those things makes a difference. RR stood up for what he believed in. IMO it doesnt matter what methods were used. This little punk walked around like he was better than anyone and needed to know he was just like the rest of us. Maybe he needed a little disfigurement to see what he was putting your friend through. There's no such a thing as drastic measures when it comes to people like that. He wouldnt have made through year one in my high school. He should count his blessings that all he lost was some skin and blood. Ravage, ya got suspended, grounded and almost had charges filed against you. Small price to pay for being a loyal friend. You have all my respect. Not that you need it or that its a big deal or anything, but I'd be your wing man any day.
Thanks alot, Your comments have really helped me feel alot better about this. Im glad thiers people like you that understand the whole senario, and understand my reasoning behind my action.

Quote:

Originally posted by Marroe
They're kids!! In high school! Very impressionable...make a good impresssion on them and they will change. Tell em to go shoot or stab someone and they just might.
Im a little smarter than that Marroe...


Just to give everyone an update.

Both Tonee and Emelia ( The two girls I was sticking up for that suffered from Brett's harrassment against them) told thier parents and both Tonee, Emi, and Both of thier parents support me, and are very thankful that I put a stop to the harrassment. We are having a hearing sometime next week where I will have the girls and thier parents both supporting me.

We will be addressing how the problem could have been solved months before if the instructor of the class would have done something about it when the problems were presented to him by me, emi, and tonee. Hopefully things will go well.

monalisa 02-25-2006 10:38 PM

He was picking on 2 girls? Well then, picture this, you trap him in the room, both girls kick his ass and your standing in the corner, pointing and snickering and ready to lend a help hand (or tong) if necessary. Bwahahahahahaha! Sorry, I'm probably not helping.:)

Anyway, hope it all works out for you. Good luck and never give up!

RavageRitual 02-25-2006 10:41 PM

Thanks Mona. ;)

Marroe 02-26-2006 01:00 AM

Why not just beat the snot outa him? Ripping his skin off with tongs is a BIT unusual. What you shoulda done is punch him in the face at the first word of this that came outa his mouth...then with the embarassment, I'm sure it wouldn't have gone as far as it did.
I dunno... in my opinion, unless they did something to actually physically harm those involved in an extreme manner, ripping someones skin off is a little morbid to me. This kid could have scars for the rest of his life, and for what? Calling someone fat? Who the fuck hasn't been picked on at least once in their lives? I know I have. And I also know that any little twat calling me, or a friend a name isn't gonna get me expelled from school, fired from a job, ect. I know both you, and him will realize how rediculous both parts of this were when you get older. Only problem is you wont have to think about it every time you look at your arm.

So don't say you're "a little smarter than that". Obviously no one knows what they're capable of until they take action.

stubbornforgey 02-26-2006 03:31 AM

When you do something that draws blood..
is a little too much..
Your awesome for sticking up for your freind but em afraid ..a bullys a bully ..no matter how you look at it...
You would been more helpful if you could teach your freind to gain a little more self confidence in herself or self esteem .

VampiricClown 02-26-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by monalisa
Now this is just my opinion, but what would have been really great is if Ravage held the kid while the girl he was picking on kicked the little fuckwad's ass.
LMAO! I wouldn't mind a girl kicking my ass. :cool:

scouse mac 02-26-2006 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by filmmaker2
Just another two cents from me here, but I have noticed...that people are really casual about encouraging other people to violence. In my opinion it's very irresponsible to do that. This is a horror message board; discussing the violence in horror films with some enthusiasm, well that's one thing. It's fictional. Clamoring for and encouraging real-life violence? Sorry, but I don't approve.
I dont think anyone here is really condoning violence but there is, in situations like this, where a line must be drawn. Unfortunately, bullies only seem to understand the language of violence and it seems clear that this one would've got the message. Would you agree that most people would do similar if they felt it was the only way to help a friend?

filmmaker2 02-26-2006 11:48 AM

Yeah, see, again--and I know I'm saying this from the standpoint of someone who hasn't been in school for twenty years or so at least--it's VERY EASY to sit here at your keyboard and pat someone on the back for a horrible mistake they made. It's also very easy for Ravage to say thanks for all this, because Ravage prefers not to admit that Ravage might have done something...unwise. And I'll tell you why that's the case, at least as I believe it...it's because really learning something is painful and difficult.

One of the hardest things in the world is to look at one's own rough-hewn nature, to acknowledge that maybe as people we're not perfect, that we're capable of making mistakes.

From my perspective, it's upsetting reading all this cheering on, plus it makes the forum look like a bunch of idiotic macho high school students. No, I'm not saying it was "right" for that bully to say those cruel things to that girl. But look at who's actually suffering the greatest consequences: Ravage. And look at who was made into a victim: The bully. The tables turned, but they turned...the wrong way.

It's not bad to make a mistake. That's human nature, and it is part of how people develop into themselves. But it can be bad not to LEARN from a mistake, and by encouraging Ravage, and telling Ravage that what Ravage did was the "right thing," you are making it very difficult for Ravage to learn.

So please, take a minute to think about what you post.

scouse mac 02-26-2006 12:06 PM

I agree that sitting here typing out random odds and sods its easy to act up a false bravado and 'devil may care' attitude to things but in this case Ravage had already done the deed. And seeing as Ravage appears (though posts on a forum is a very thin basis to assess people) to be a level headed person, who I feel would've thought things through.

My sister was bullied at school and it only stopped (despite teachers being informed several times) when she kicked the bully's arse after school one day.

Im not a viloent person myself, and would never condone violence for viloence sake, but Im a firm believer in standing up for yourself and your friends/family (right or wrong).

monalisa 02-26-2006 12:06 PM

Quote:

And look at who was made into a victim: The bully.
Frankly, I think it's OK to let the bully feel like a victim for once. Although what I was suggesting is that Ravage should have helped the girls kick the Bully's ass. That way the bully gets to feel like a victim and it teaches the girls to stand up for themselves. Granted, violence is not the answer in a lot of cases, but like someone up here said, violence is about the only thing bullies understand. And I am speaking from the perspective of someone who also has not been in school for 20 or so years. Again, just my opinion.

stubbornforgey 02-26-2006 01:56 PM

But what happens when somebody is being accused of being a bully when in fact ...they are not..

My 14 yr old neice is a tall mutha and quite stocky.
Last thursday a parent came to my house ..her daughter accused my neice of beating the crap out of her the day before..
which wouldve been hard on that perspective as my neice was home sick all day .
The following day..my neice goes to school and was sent home with a note ..'you have been accused of hitting a child ...blah blah ..this school does not take bulyying lightly..so you must remove yourself from our grounds ..etc...trespassing ..blah blah..

I take the note and my neice back to the school and asks..WTF..
It turned out ..this little bitch wrote a complaint to the counsellor ..saying ..my neice beat her up ..etc. and that she was afraid to attent school ..ok..
I explain to the counsellor ..it wouldve been impossible as my neice was home sick..!!!!!
They call the accuser in and shes all giggly and girlyish..and was like..
'noooo''tee hee'...i never wrote that..tee hee'..'FUCKIN A'..
em thinking its over ..although no apology was forthcoming..
FARK SAKES..
this morning (monday)..my neice is cornered by this little cunts 40 yr old uncle ..in the field..and threatens her..
Words to the effect of..'stay the fuck away from my neice or you will have me to deal with..you so much as lay a finger on her again..blah blah'

My neice comes running home ..bawling her eyes out..shit scared..
this time i go and what i had to say was not pretty .

ItsAlive75 02-26-2006 02:04 PM

Dude, its high school. Go get somebody with authority to handle the situation...

Damn, wait til college to start rippin' skin off people.

RavageRitual 02-26-2006 02:05 PM

Filmmaker - I understand what you are saying

and I know what I did was by far an immature way to take action. If I could take it back, I would tell someone like the police about the incident, instead of taking the situation into my own hands.

I do understand right from wrong. And we all make mistakes. I should have thought through my actions before I took action.


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