So...sell me on all the anti-Hollywood stuff
 

Seems like every 3rd post on this board is someone saying "man, I hate Hollywood!" or "Hollywood is dying!" or "I wish Hollywood would just burn to the ground" or something like that. Seems a bit much to me. Can anybody here think of a convincing arguement against Hollywood, or why one should hate Hollywood?

No way, I looooove Hollywood!!! I think they are all jealous!!! :D

Not me:confused:

Ok, what, then?

oops.... my bad ..... Should have specified. I was saying I don't have anything against Hollywood. My apologies:(

Wonderful. All the Hollywood bashing going on, and there's actually a thread ABOUT Hollywood bashing, and it's getting ignored.

Hate to burst your bubble anymore but I don't have a problem with it either.

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Holywood sux all teh gurlz iz bleched an dum!!!!

ps dem movies r teh sux0rs aswell!!11!oneoneoneeleven

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that's a terrible reason

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Im pretty sure she was just fuck'n around. I just want Hollywood to get more creative. With the dribble that been out lately its like they lost there edge. I mean there's been how many remakes to come out this year as well as sequels. I mean do we really need a King Kong remake thats twice as long as the original. Or whats so bad about watching the original. I mean you can call me a stupid basterd but did anyone actually like Robots? or Shark Tales? Anybody? And whats with all the rappers getting into the movie buisness, I mean Get Rich or Die Trying has the word LAME written all over it. Or how about Zethura A.K.A. Jumaji in space. I mean there are some good movies out there, for example The Ice Harvest or Walk the Line or Rent. But sadly most of the theater is taken up by Yours, Mine and Ours and Just Friends. So I just want Hollywood out there to start getting the creative juices flowing again. Bring us movies with impact and heart ach, laughter and joy, Adrenalin and thrills. Not Into the Blue and Chicken Little.

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omgz... ur a terribal reezon! :mad: :rolleyes: :o

Ok, remake stuff first, from the Oldboy Remake thread:
"since 1980 there've been around 150 remakes (credit: Box Office Mojo), which seems like a lot, until you consider that there's been over 10,346 movies made since 1980. That means that ~1.5% of the movies since 1980 have been remakes."
Addendum: average of 5 remakes a year. That's not a lot, really.

Zathura was based on a book by the same guy (Chris Van Allsburg) who wrote the book that Jumanji was based on. The blame for that goes to Allsburg.

Like you said; there are good movies out that came from Hollywood. And the bad ones you mentioned are making money. If they didn't make money, there would be no reason to make them.

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Your FACE is a terrible reason!
OMG BURN!

Bloated over hyped stars and boring unoriginal films are what pisses off and makes me dubious of Hollywood. The Hollywood establishment (Ritchie Cunningham, the Man Boy Love Association president Steven Speilberg, ect, ect) have put out the same formulaic film over and over again for the last 15 years.
Overblown untalented "stars" (Tom Cruise, Russel Crowe) feed the world's overzealous celebrity worship and transmit values of greed while getting away with murder. Hollywood is a fine example of everything that art shouldn't be.....

Every now and then a Hollywood film does come out to rock the boat and shake things up a bit but those ideas end up reassimilated into the mainstream, dumbed down and cloned endlessly with the sole purpose of making money not art.

I have no problem with Hollywood. There have always been good movies, bad movies, and unoriginal movies.

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i h8 u 4evah now

dear deadjournal

The star/celebrity worship isn't really a Hollywood thing, more of an overal media thing. The type of shit that they put on the E! Network.

And as for "rocking the boat and shaking things up" why is that the exception for all the "same old shit" category? A movie doesn't have to be Pulp Fiction to be a really good movie. To use a previously mentioned example, The Ice Harvest is a very good movie, but isn't some innovative masterpiece.

Thats the dumbest damn thing you said all night. :p

Don't be stupid.

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There are different movies for different people, 4 of the ones you mentioned are kids movies, they have some adult humor and references to keep parents from falling asleep but they're made for kids.

There's great,good,just ok,bad and horrible hollywood movies and that's the way it's always going to be, nothings perfect, hollywood is no exception.

Don't be a prick. Is Hollywood PART of it? Yes, I didn't claim that it wasn't. But the celebrity worship crap encompasses far too much for it to be called a Hollywood thing.

Oh really? ;)

Being rich would be awesome just so that you could have tons of servants doing jobs you could easily do yourself... Like putting on your own pants. hah

*fap fap fap*

Screw him, I'll disrobe you for free.

Sold. You need a suit though.

That argument I agree with. When $4 million is a low budget, something is wrong

There will be no fooling around, this is serious business. Put on the suit, pants monkey. :D

The movie's going to make somewhere around 5 or 6 hundred, that's a 3 hundred profit. It's ridiculous but it's going to make money and that's the ultimate goal.(to the producers)

Bah, you'll never work in this business again!

The masses do love helicopter explosions though. :rolleyes:

Ok, but imagine how much money they would make if they made it for only 28 Million (the original Die Hard's budget. It made over 117 mil, btw). Or hell, 90 million (DHwaV's budget). That's over 4 or 5 million profit. 600 profit for a 28 movie is 572 million dollars profit. Why not lower the budget and increase the profits?

That's why I'm a volunteer.

Never.

You miss out on the respect and honor associated with such an important position. ;)

And I'll have naked pictuers of murderdoll

hmmmmmm 3 more posts away from losin' that? Maybe we should take bets :)

I agree with you completely I was just pointing out that it still works. A lower budget would probably bring out a litte more creativeness in the crew instead of them throwing money at every tough fx scene they run into.

these are of murderdoll. It's different having naked pictuers of someone you "know"

The sooner Hollywood withers away from it's own uncreativity the better :D . Of course when tv forcefeeds everyone the same crappy reality shows (cheaper to make since no writers), even bad remakes, SNL skits, old sitcom-turned-movies, etc seem like entertainment. People are lemmings and will watch whatever is put in front of them. I pray for another wave of great indie filmmakers to appear as they did in the early 70s. Maybe that will add something to the void.
CK