Horror.com gets Cursed!
 

If u look on the back of the Unrated Cursed movie case, u will see something say:

"The most terrifying movie of the year"
-horror.com

I'd just like to say, WAY TO GO, StaciLayne! Your review made it to the case of a Wes Craven flick. Now, I'd have to disagree with your review cuz I thought the movie sucked, but I'm glad that u enjoyed it and am glad that your review made the box. Now, get out the beer and vodka. It's time to party!!!

I'm sad to say that I haven't seen Dog Soldiers yet. Yes, I've seen The Howling, Amercian Werewolf in London, the original Werefolf movies, etc. But, I haven't gotten around to seeing Dog Soldiers yet. But, u know wat, I'll rent it 2morrow along with Hide & Seek. Now I feel a tiny bit better about not seeing it.

The only thing terrifying about it is that someone read the script and still payed for it.

Awful movie.

And...... Who the fuck is Stacy???:confused:

LMFAO!

She's the one who wrote the review.

sweet.. altough i would have liked to see it apper on another movie. curse sucked it was not the scariest movie of the year. i hope that we will get a spot on the land of the dead when it comes to DVD in the future

I think you're reaching with that one.

I guess the closer we get to the release date the more they'll begin to show in the trailers but as of now it just looks like a bunch of water. I know you're not suppose to show too much in the first trailers but come on you've gotta do better than showing me a leak in the ceiling.

Hmm..I wonder how many more people THAT will bring here...

We've still got half the year left but I think High Tension will hold it's thus far owned titled.

Cursed sucked. It was an Americanized Ginger Snaps wannabe with a "hot, young cast". Definately one of Craven's worst and certainly not even close to being the scariest movie of the year.

They need to fire this StaciLayne broad and get a reviewer in there that knows what the fuck they are talking about.

"Cursed is the most terrifying movie of the year." :rolleyes:

Give me a fucking break. We're probably the laughing stock of the online horror community for that one. (And if it's not for that, then it's probably for having Harry fucking Potter on the main page for like 2 months! Either way, they are probably laughing at us.)

I haven't seen Cursed or High Tension yet, but from what I have read so far, you are probably right.

Cursed I will see eventually, but the PG-13 rating disappoints me without even seeing it. I have heard that Craven wanted to make the movie more violent and more intense in general. I wonder what it might have been had Craven been allowed to do what he wanted.

If she thought Cursed was anything but a cheap Hollywood knock off of a better movie then she should be fired because she obviously doesnt know the first thing about horror movies.

Trust me I am....I doubt you'll be able to find anyone here that'll tell you Cursed is better than High Tension.


Scream got a NC-17 rating and they cut alot of it so I have no problem with believe that Craven would've made it better without Kevin Williamson or the studio trying to make it into a kiddy bullshit WB film.

I don't think I've seen an NC-17 rated Scream version but I'd certainly be interested in watching it if I could find one. That film was actually quite violent for a mainstream horror movie when it came out, so I'm not doubting that this NC-17 version exists, I just haven't seen it. (And now I want to.)

Also, yeah, I'm sure Craven would have made a cooler movie than what Cursed turned out to be if he had been granted some artistic license. It definately woulda been better than the bubblegum piece of shit we ended up with.

I don't see it as over-exagerating. I see it as being 100% dead wrong on a review. If a movie reviewer isn't capable of putting forth an accurate review, then they aren't performing at their job. I'd fire 'em.

Now don't get me wrong... If her job was to get Horror.com mentioned on the box of a movie at all costs, no matter how shitty the movie was, then she accomplished her mission. Personally, I'd rather have it on a decent movie with an accurate review, but maybe that's just me... :rolleyes: Unless someone told her to write a kiss-ass review in hopes of getting mentioned on the DVD box, I'd just say she sucks...

I'd fire a chef that sends the wrong food to the wrong tables, I'd fire a secratary that writes down messages incorrectly and I'd fire a movie reivewer that doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. She's not doing a good job of reviewing horror movies if she thought that was the most terrifying movie of the year and it's as simple as that...

Well, I like to build on my collection too, but you won't see me adding this one to it any time soon.

I saw it because I generally like werewolf movies too. In fact, this one was much better tha first time around when it was called Ginger Snaps. (Christina Ricci has been hot since she was Wednesday Addams, but that didn't make this movie any better for me.)

It's cool that HDC was on a DVD package. It just sucks that it was for giving a good review to a lame ass movie.

I think people are getting a bit too carried away with this 'review' thing on the cursed DVD cover....

Has anyone read Staci's review for cursed here She's covered the theatrical version and the unrated version, and going buy her words in the review, quoted and amongst others... it is highly unlikely that she actually had anything to do with the words "Cursed is the most terrifying movie of the year." used on the cover of the DVD....comon guys you should know it's the usual 'sales pitch' tripe the film production companys print all over dvd covers.

It's a case of that HDC has most likely been endorsed on the cover as she's briefly reviewed the two versions, and Wes Craven has been interviewed by Staci.... it's a bit of give and take..

If she didn't actually say it, then it pisses me off that much more. No one here (that I've talked to) even thought that movie was very good, let alone remotely "terrifying", but anyone that looks at the cover of it is going to think this site is full of a bunch of 15 year olds that think Cursed is the best thing to happen in horror since Scream (sarcasm) because that's what the cover of the box makes it out to say.

yeah, I get what your saying, and inaccuracies like that can look silly, but I couldn't give a flying fuck what people think when they read that line

I don't think she should be fired just cuz she liked a movie that u didn't. I mean, I agree whole-heartedly with u that Cursed sucked and doesn't deserve to be recommendable. But, if somebody else likes it, u shouldn't have the right to fuckin' fire them. Everybody is entitled to their own damn opinion. No need to flip out on em' and fire them.

Oh, and that doesn't mean she liked it either. She could've just been saying that out of all of the movies coming out up the time that Cursed came out in theaters, it was more terrifying than the others. U gotta remember, Cursed came out before Haute Tension and Land of the Dead and others. So, she never said she liked it. She just said it was the most terrifying movie of the year.

i'd been wanting to see cursed, but after reading all of this i'm not so sure it's a wise idea

This is one of the most, er, entertaining threads I've read on the boards lately. Obviously, some of you have no idea who I am nor do you read my reviews in their entirety.

Here's my page on RottenTomatoes.com
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-4262/

Here's my recent review of Cursed
http://www.horror.com/php/article-849-1.html

As I said, it's a light, entertaining flick. They did take my comments out of context, but who really cares if Horror.com gets on the map. To my knowledge, Horror.com never had any quotes on DVDs before I came along. Also, if people buy the DVD, it helps the horror genre and Wes Craven (whom I admire very much). More people might even come to the site (whether they agree with my quote or not) and more traffic means Horror.com sticks around longer.

I showed the DVD to Wes Craven, and he got a kick out of it. We both laughed (well, me more than him... he's still rather bitter over the whole experience) at how the critics were allegedly shown a different cut.

I've been a "critic" (prefer the word reviewer) for five years now. I write for several print magazines and sites, including Horror.com -- I love horror movies, which cannot necessarily be said of those on the some of the other online critics -- you see a lot of haters out there and wonder why they're even running horror sites.

I am a lifelong fan, but I am also a professional, credentialed film reviewer and the author of several published books in the horror and film genres. I think to slam any person across the board for one opinion that does not conform to yours is rather unfair and certainly unrealistic.

It's a lot easier being a movie fan than a movie reviewer. As a fan, you can watch whatever you want, whenever you want. As a movie reviewer, one has to see everything from the self-financed indies to Hollywood's biggest blockbusters and all sorts of movies in between. Then we have to sit down and write about it. In regards to the Rotten Tomatoes site, sometimes it's difficult to pick between "rotten or fresh" because certain movies are so bland they don't warrant either.

I got a kick out of someone saying my review was "wrong". An opinion can't be "wrong". You may not agree, but to say that any reviewer was "wrong" is just... wrong! Believe me, I read reviews from others that get my blood boiling, but I have never once written a hate mail to any of them. In contrast, I will drop a nice note to a reviewer who I think wrote an exceptionally *good* review, because I understand how hard it is to not be able to please everyone. People are quick to dash off a hateful email or post, but seldom do we say, "Hey, job well done."

No matter what job you have -- say you're a secretary who loves to type and file, but you hate answering the phones -- there are pros and cons. Being a movie reviewer is a pretty time-consuming, involved job, so I seriously doubt that anyone who is not truly commited to it would stay in it for very long. (I'm not talking about just watching movies and writing about them, but the hours upon hours of being stuck in traffic to get to screenings, gas prices, having to get to the the theater 45 minutes in advance, etc. -- to review one movie, it's approximately 10 hours from leaving the house to writing "the end" on your review.)

Also, as one astute person pointed out, Cursed was released in February. Anyone who actually reads that quote and thinks it's really the best movie of the year needs a reality check. Want to know a REAL quote-whore? Look for any quote by Paul Fischer of Dark Horizons.

However, I would never positively quote a movie I didn't honestly like. I thought Cursed was fun. Now, you want to know the BEST movie of the year so far? Check out my review of The Devil's Rejects:

http://www.horror.com/php/article-859-1.html

Staci

P.S. As for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, I agree it shouldn't have been up there for so long, but it was in the dark fantasy genre with a lot of horror elements. It was definitely scary for kids, and what's wrong with training horror fans early? Not every "horror movie" involves a masked murderer with a machete and a cool theme song.

It's not. Trust me!


THANK YOU! And I mean it!

I'm not exactly sure if the NC-17 version made it past the editing room, I just know that that's what the MPAA rated it before the studio made Craven cut it to bring it down to R. I would also want to watch that version but I'm not sure if they ever/will ever release it.

For awhile I thought it could be a marketing thing but that information wasn't given until a Craven interview much later than the theatrical release and besides that saying it was cut down really isn't a way to get more people to watch it so the NC-17 version more than likely exists but like I said before I'm not sure if it ever got past the editing room.

By the way, Yellow Jacket, Motorhead ROCKS!

And... thanks,

Staci

I'll bring the bong

I always look for an excuse to party

Alright, your post is long so I'm just going to go right down the line addressing things you mentioned or commented on.

First off, I must say that I am amazed, surprised, and somewhat impressed that you actually take the time to read this forum, as well as respond to posts about you. (That's not sarcasm either. I was genuinely surprised to see a reply from you.)

Secondly, you said...

If they took your words out of the context that you meant them, then I don't see how you could get a kick out of this. It was wrong. To be clear... Your review wasn't wrong, but the words credited to you on the cover of the DVD are, and that's what I was referring to. (Perhaps, I should have worded that more clearly, but I thought my opinion on the matter was explained throughout the course of this thread.)

To me, this entire statement is almost laughable. On one hand, you are scolding me and saying how an opinion can't be wrong, but then in the very next sentence, what are you saying about my opinion of your review? Your review is an opinion and therefore it can not be wrong, but somehow my opinion of your review can be? How's that work? :rolleyes:

I apologize if I have misled you or anyone in any way, but I am not actually the ultimate authority on horror movies. Unless I'm discussing an actor or director's specific movie credentials or something along those lines, everything that comes out of my head and on to this site is an opinion and should be regarded as such.

I didn't even know you were actually a member of the forum and I certainly didn't send you a hate mail. I merely stated my opinion (There's that word again.) that if you actually thought Cursed was the most terrifying movie of the year then you should be fired because you didn't know what you're talking about. However, if you never said that and they simply took your words completely out of context, then that's a whole different ballgame. I'm fully aware that Hollywood does that type of thing all the time and not even an asshole like me could hold that against you.

Like I already said in this thread, it is pretty cool that you got HDC mentioned on any DVD cover, but I just wish it would have been a more accurate statement about a better movie, that's all.

As long as you didn't actually think Cursed was "The Most Terrifying Movie of the Year", you're okay in my book because my opinion was that it was a Hollywood Ginger Snaps ripoff that was short on scares, gore, and originality.

Okay, I think I've said everything I wanted to say, so let me just wrap up with this...

Sorry if I hurt your feelings, congrats on getting HDC mentioned on a DVD package, Cursed still sucked, but I no longer think you should get fired due to the fact that you were misquoted.

In the future, you may want to start running all of your reviews past me, just to be sure they have my stamp of approval, before making them available to the public, but that's just my opinion. (Just kidding.)

Ditto :cool:

LOL...Great idea!.... ass


:D :p

reviews = subjective

maybe most u guys will consider yourself 'horror experts' - yippe kayo kayay (Sp?) for you, but even then im sure there were tons of people who liked this movie just as there are as many of u that hated it. consider them, Laymen horror fans, if u will.

anyway, she did the right thing. got her name out as well as HDCs. until your actually OUT there, negativity will not get you anywhere (of course, there are the exceptions like Stern or Springer). keep it up and maybe one day she and/or hdc will have more a say in future horror movies/books/publications etc....

and btw - i could tell it sucked from previews. hence, i didnt see it. but if it were ever to come on HBO or whatever, yeh, i'll watch.

I thought so.

;)

Not as many as you may think...

This is from imdb.com

User Rating: 4.7/10 (2,364 votes)


Can I just consider them lame?

2364 votes on IMDB.. I'm sure they are the authority on movies. And im sure EVERYONE across the nation who saw the movie decided to vote on there yeh?

Lame? yeh, that works. Laymen.... Lame...... maybe it was meant to be that way?

I like Ginger Snaps better.

Not the authority. Just a good cross-section of every demographic. Just so you know, any time you see a poll, they usually don't take into account the opinion of every single person. Instead, they take a random sampling of the population. That's what this is and that's why it's valid. And on a related note, this particular movie scored considerably higher with girls under the age of 18 than with any other demographic. (That does not surprise me one iota. It's probably the first horror movie they ever saw.)

Quote:

Lame? yeh, that works. Laymen.... Lame...... maybe it was meant to be that way?

It certainly seems appropriate in this scenario. *shrug*

<<An opinion can't be "wrong". You may not agree, but to say that any reviewer was "wrong" is just... wrong!>>

That's called sarcasm. It's a joke.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that my reviews (read in their entirety) are my *honest* opinion. If I enjoyed Cursed, then OK, you may not agree but that doesn't mean I should be strung up. When I agree with you on a movie, does that you'll be calling for a raise in my pay? You can't have it both ways. Sometimes you'll agree with a person's review, sometimes you won't. And life will go on.

Sure. I'll run all my future reviews past you from now on. (More sarcasm :) )

Best,
Staci

see how much darn fun the forum is !

now if only you posted in the threads that weren't about you :p

Hey, it's all about me, buddy.

Actually, I did post a few things here and there a couple of years ago, but no one ever replied and actually, I have very little time for message boards. They can become very addictive, and I really need to spend my days working. (I not only write for this site, but several others, plus print magazines, and I am on deadline for my upcoming book on ghost movies.)

Someone brought this thread to my attention, or I probably wouldn't have seen it. I click on the threads from the front page occassionally, but they are mostly flame wars (or about what people are eating) so I generally keep out.

I just wanted to explain how the quote-thing sometimes works and to add that I'm not a shill for the studios. I honestly thought Cursed was fun. If most people didn't, that's cool -- I don't put anyone down for their honest opinion on any film. And... Yes, I think it's a boon for Horror.com either way -- getting our name out there beyond just the online community will help us grow. Horror.com is also mentioned in the acknowledgements of both of my books, and I am doing everything I can to help support it because I think it's the best horror site out there.

Best,
Staci

my advice is to carry on with those super reviews....stay away otherwise urgeok will end up 'hitting' on you :D ... he can't help it :p