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ShankS 02-17-2005 06:18 AM

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Hate_Breeder 02-17-2005 06:25 AM

I just watched SAW the other day and was pleasantly surprised at how good the plot was...

ShankS 02-17-2005 06:33 AM

it did have 'fresh' approach to it

as I said in amk's poll thread, it's not fantastic but I liked the twist etc.

Hate_Breeder 02-17-2005 06:35 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
it did have 'fresh' approach to it

as I said in amk's poll thread, it's not fantastic but I liked the twist etc.

Yeah its good enough to be better than most of the new horror movies, thats not very hard to beat though..

Although the writer was really creative and it was executed well

AUSTIN316426808 02-17-2005 06:46 AM

I thought it was really good, it was a bit Se7enish but still pretty original.

Sedated_replica 02-17-2005 05:12 PM

*SPOILER*




Okay, my question is.... If that dude was the Killer the whole time, how did he shock that guy? If you remember he had that thing in his hand, so he would have too move his hand which he had a tape recorder in one and a gun in the other. huh? right?

Its been a month since I've seen it and I was wasted so I might need to be recorrected.

Also, They're was NO WAY you could have guessed the ending. Which is silly. So its not a surpise ending. Its more like the writers where like...

"Well, were fucked so we'll make the dead guy the killer". what! thats alittle lame

massacre man 02-17-2005 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Sedated_replica
*SPOILER*




Okay, my question is.... If that dude was the Killer the whole time, how did he shock that guy? If you remember he had that thing in his hand, so he would have too move his hand which he had a tape recorder in one and a gun in the other. huh? right?

Its been a month since I've seen it and I was wasted so I might need to be recorrected.

Also, They're was NO WAY you could have guessed the ending. Which is silly. So its not a surpise ending. Its more like the writers where like...

"Well, were fucked so we'll make the dead guy the killer". what! thats alittle lame

two remotes

IDrinkYourBlood 02-17-2005 05:59 PM

yeah having the dead guy being the killer even tho he was in the hospital, cant remember if he was prenounced dead or not. that was so retarded. and just cuz your dieing of some dieses or allready dead yet your maraculusly alive and somehow left the hospital, doesnt give you any right just to kill others, and my god, how long do you think it would take him to dig up all the dirt on these so called bad ppl. super lame.

massacre man 02-17-2005 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
yeah having the dead guy being the killer even tho he was in the hospital, cant remember if he was prenounced dead or not. that was so retarded. and just cuz your dieing of some dieses or allready dead yet your maraculusly alive and somehow left the hospital, doesnt give you any right just to kill others, and my god, how long do you think it would take him to dig up all the dirt on these so called bad ppl. super lame.
Zepp and Lawerence were easy he was at the hospitalhe could come and go as he pleased i belive

IDrinkYourBlood 02-17-2005 06:06 PM

I dont buy it.

Sedated_replica 02-17-2005 09:13 PM

Me neither. It was soo lame

ShankS 02-17-2005 09:35 PM

Wait till I've watched it again, and I shall solve all your questions.

GorePhobia 02-17-2005 09:53 PM

who cares how he came and went and shit like that....Just take the film for what its worth...why fight over how he did it...It worked and it was a good flick....Thats like saying how did Dorothy get to Oz, its a movie...anything can happen.

Sedated_replica 02-17-2005 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by GorePhobia
who cares how he came and went and shit like that....Just take the film for what its worth...why fight over how he did it...It worked and it was a good flick....Thats like saying how did Dorothy get to Oz, its a movie...anything can happen.
Dorothy never went to OZ.... it was all a dream, that was dumb

Sedated_replica 02-18-2005 12:02 AM

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Originally posted by ShankS
Wait till I've watched it again, and I shall solve all your questions.
Honestly, I don't think you can. The movie doesn't make any sense and the plot has too many holes.

Pretty good movie, NOT GREAT. But it was good

massacre man 02-18-2005 12:48 PM

and Adam was always around Gordon so he could find out about him

AUSTIN316426808 02-18-2005 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by IDrinkYourBlood
yeah having the dead guy being the killer even tho he was in the hospital, cant remember if he was prenounced dead or not. that was so retarded. and just cuz your dieing of some dieses or allready dead yet your maraculusly alive and somehow left the hospital, doesnt give you any right just to kill others, and my god, how long do you think it would take him to dig up all the dirt on these so called bad ppl. super lame.
the scene with him in the hospital was suppose to be a flashback that Dr. Gordon was having of something that happened weeks earlier.

BH14 02-18-2005 01:29 PM

OK... Let me tell you about some of the holes that i will fill in.

SPOILER

Dont forget that he had poisoned the orderly so he could have been working for him (remember he is just following the orders for the cure)... He used the same poison to the guy who set himself on fire. So 2 people were really setting this trap up. The Sick Killer and the Orderly.

As for the supposedly dead guy in room, that was lil bit ridiculous... But he didnt have the recorder in his hand bc the other guy took it away from him. He could have had the shocker device They should have done away with that and just had the sick killer appear somewhere else but not in the same room as the 2 guys.

As for the "It doesnt give him the right to kill anyone".... he is a sicko killer!!! haha

Nevertheless, good twist and good movie!

massacre man 02-18-2005 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by BH14
OK... Let me tell you about some of the holes that i will fill in.

SPOILER

Dont forget that he had poisoned the orderly so he could have been working for him (remember he is just following the orders for the cure)... He used the same poison to the guy who set himself on fire. So 2 people were really setting this trap up. The Sick Killer and the Orderly.

As for the supposedly dead guy in room, that was lil bit ridiculous... But he didnt have the recorder in his hand bc the other guy took it away from him. He could have had the shocker device They should have done away with that and just had the sick killer appear somewhere else but not in the same room as the 2 guys.

As for the "It doesnt give him the right to kill anyone".... he is a sicko killer!!! haha

Nevertheless, good twist and good movie!

he could have been laying on the remote and Zepp was shocking him before and the shock at the end was the only one that was really him

AUSTIN316426808 02-19-2005 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by massacre man
he could have been laying on the remote and Zepp was shocking him before and the shock at the end was the only one that was really him
Dr. Gordon got schocked once while zepp was driving with Danny Glover's charactor chasing him. so it couldn't have been him.

massacre man 02-19-2005 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by AUSTIN316426808
Dr. Gordon got schocked once while zepp was driving with Danny Glover's charactor chasing him. so it couldn't have been him.
IT WAS IN JIGSAW'S BUTTCRACK WHENEVER HE WOULD LET OUT A SILENT FART IT WOULD SHOCK ONE OF THEM

ShankS 02-20-2005 10:35 PM

The remote could have quite easily been concealed under the 'arched' palm of the 'dead' guys hand...use your imagination. If you remember the scene where the tape player was pulled from the 'dead' guys hand, his hand was facing palm down, with his fingers just clasping the player... the guy pulling the player from his hand, did not have to pull the chain very hard to remove it from the hand. i.e the 'dead' guy was clearly not holding the player tightly.

right... with this in mind, it would be quite easy to conceal the remote underneath his 'arched' palm facing downwards, whilst claspng the tape player. My own car alarm remote is small and it is possible to do the same thing and conceal it whilst 'clasping' something else. The scene did not require the guy who pulled the tape player, to analyse wether there would be any concealed object, since they were in a desperate situation, with desperate circumstances....their minds were 100% on playing their tapes.

ok... now you ask, how would the 'dead' guy be able to operate the remote, without being seen to do it. Well that would be simple. As the 'dead' guys hand was facing palm down, and the remote could be under his palm, it would be easy to press the remote against the floor by flexing the palm.... we just have to assume the remotes buttons could be pressed that way.


AUSTIN316426808 has answered the other question about the 'dead' guy being able to set the whole thing up....quite an easy task, given he could have the full co-operation of the janitor guy, since he was convinced he was slowly being poisoned. Then you could say, well why didn't the janitor guy not co-operate, not stallk and attempt to kill everyone, and setup the room and go to the hospital, then tell some doctors that he'd been poisoned... well it would be a pretty difficult task in indentifying through blood testing etc, as to what type of poison he had and would eventually die. So carrying out the task seamed like the only option, and no doubt if he'd done something like this the 'dead' guy would have killed him and found someone else to carry out the task.


any more questions? you picky lot. lol

The STE 02-20-2005 11:11 PM

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Originally posted by GorePhobia
Just take the film for what its worth...why fight over how he did it...It worked and it was a good flick....
The film isn't worth much. The problem is that a lot of it didn't work. Not even the remote stuff, that could've been anything. If the blood was poisoned, and he was lying face down in it, couldn't he have gotten poisoned from it? Kinda sloppy for someone who supposedly thinks of everything. And why even be there in the first place? Why have the corpse be the killer? It's a completely useless twist and it's only there so that Joe Dipshit can say "OMG, that corpse was really Jigsaw Man the whole time! I totally didn't see that coming! Best. Ending. Ever!" and talk about how brilliant the writer is to his friends in English 11 the next day. It's cheap. And they did that stupid fucking "show the killer, but only PART of him" shit. The Jigsaw Man was right there with Danny Glover, and they always fucking obscured his face. If you're going to do that, why not go the distance and just mosaic it out? At least then you won't have to resort to contrived camera angles and shit for that.


And the only way it's like Se7en is the look of it. Other than that it's just any other "serial killer does complicated stuff for no reason" movie. I was more interested in the chick who survived saying "he helped me." Make a movie around THAT situation, and do it right, and it could be a great movie.

Sedated_replica 02-20-2005 11:26 PM

AGREED

I would have been happier if Zepp was the killer.

The Twist ending is unguessable and its a cliche movie

ShankS 02-20-2005 11:27 PM

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Originally posted by The STE
The film isn't worth much. The problem is that a lot of it didn't work. Not even the remote stuff, that could've been anything. If the blood was poisoned, and he was lying face down in it, couldn't he have gotten poisoned from it? Kinda sloppy for someone who supposedly thinks of everything. And why even be there in the first place?
The blood wasn't poisoned....why would he poison himself. You do realise that the 'dead' guy lying down was the guy who setup the whole thing. The two chained up guys were told it was, as part of the setup. He knew that even if they realised the blood wasn't poisoned, one of em would end up getting shot, which we saw happen, but he survived. The remote stuff is easliy explainable. Didnt you read my previous post.

AUSTIN316426808 02-21-2005 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by The STE


And the only way it's like Se7en is the look of it. Other than that it's just any other "serial killer does complicated stuff for no reason" movie. I was more interested in the chick who survived saying "he helped me." Make a movie around THAT situation, and do it right, and it could be a great movie.


the only reason I said it was like Se7en is because of the look(which you mentioned) and the way he picked people because of some kind of morality reason other than that it had absolutely nothing to do with Se7en.

The STE 02-21-2005 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by ShankS
The blood wasn't poisoned....why would he poison himself. You do realise that the 'dead' guy lying down was the guy who setup the whole thing. The two chained up guys were told it was, as part of the setup. He knew that even if they realised the blood wasn't poisoned, one of em would end up getting shot, which we saw happen, but he survived. The remote stuff is easliy explainable. Didnt you read my previous post.
Did they EVER establish that the blood wasn't poisoned? And of course I know the dead guy was the guy who set the whole thing up.

And I don't care about the remote stuff, the remote stuff is a non issue for me

Sedated_replica 02-21-2005 08:52 PM

The remote was a issue for me

and Shanks you need to stop defending a movie that has no logic..

They never explained if it was poison or not.

The end was lame, Saw is not a good film

ShankS 02-21-2005 10:58 PM

jeeezz you guys :rolleyes: ...use your imaginations.

Just because it wasn't spelt out for you, that it wasn't poisoned or they guy didn't hold the remote, you think it's not possible. What I said earlier was perfectly plausable and possible.


and Sedated, you up to your usual, or being sensible.??

Sedated_replica 02-21-2005 11:17 PM

sensible is my middle name.

Sedated Sensible Replica

The STE 02-22-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by Sedated_replica
The remote was a issue for me

and Shanks you need to stop defending a movie that has no logic..

They never explained if it was poison or not.

The end was lame, Saw is not a good film

They hinted that the blood was poisoned when Wesley did the thing with the cigarette. There was a clue that led him to it. They never confirmed it, but there's more evidence that it was poisoned than that it wasn't.

ShankS 02-22-2005 02:37 PM

anyway.... on with the 'more to arrive' theme

just been e-mailed...

Shutter (6.1/ DTS ES) & Zombi 2 (Uncut): 25th Anniversary Edition (2 Disc Set)

are both on their way to me :p


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