Categorize Yourself
 

There are all types of stereotypes/categories like Punk, Emo, Goth, Nerd/Geek, Druggy/Alcoholic, Jock, Raver, etc. I can't list them all.

I am a combination of a lot of things: My music taste is punk and electronica...but I'm also a jock, which is a weird combination. I also masturbate to Tom & Jerry cartoons, but I don't know what that would fit under.



So, what do you consider yourself to be?

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what's emo kid?

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Seriously????

im just weird

i dont fit in with anyone. that and i have a lot of problems

:)

I thought you were a whore.

I mean that in the nicest possible way.

I'm not being mean...but I always thought that's what you were portraying in your posts.

hahahahahahah, yeah I know.

And I am a midnight toker.

ya thats exactly what im talking abuot. sometimes a whore sometimes a virgin

sometimes the brain sometimes the idiot

well, i guess moreso idiot than brain. but still

neway. im just weird.

That's cool, though.

:cool:

I'm just me....unique....

lesbian punk metal head riot girrrrrrrrl.


sicko

Welcome aboard.

Can never have too many of those.

i also wonder what EMO is?

anyway...my wife calls me a geek, so i guess thats it. i collect comics, star wars stuff, i love to watch cartoons, but only the old ones like the old disney cartoons or looney toons or charlie brown. i am a big fan of the lates 80s/early 90s heavy metal scene and i used to buy everything i saw which had the KISS logo stamped on it.

i also love to read novels...horror, fantasy and westerns mostly. i read star wars novels, conan, stephen king, dean koontz, bentley little, and any books about vampires, zombies and werewolves i find.

Yup, I agree with your wife.

lol.

No seriously, I don't exactly know what emo is...but I was trying to explain it in a different thread (which prompted me to make this thread...I was hoping an authentic emo could explain it).

But, anyway...this is what I was saying:

"I think everybody has a different opinion on what emo is. But emo is just a genre of punk music. I belive it is short for emotional.

So basically, it's bands that may sound like hardcore punk...but then ruin it by singing about how sad they are because their girlfriend left them."

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I'm not really anything.

Today what passes as emo is mostly bullshit, its not what emo was or what the name came from. But yes it is short for emotional. and to picture an "emo kid" picture your alterna hipster for the 00's. tight pants trendy hat style of the season and tight shirts preferably thrift store, black rim glasses (though these are used all over the place) and shaggy hair must be black.

Now I fall in to that category of style of dress (minus the hat) But I'm punk/hardcore skate/snowboard guy with geek streaks since being geeky pays my bills.

for a full break down of "emo" and what it really is and its history please review
http://www.fourfa.com/

note: this is not the pre-packaged hot topic mall emo you see all the highschool kids looking like and listening to.

I hate myself for not having the willpower to resist this thread and what I'm about to say:

A brief synopsis of the history of "emo":
1. Spirit Assembly releases their first Lp in 1993, regarded by many to be the first "emo" record.
2. Most people begin referring to discordant hardcore with odd time signatures as "emo". This includes such famous DC faves as Fugazi, Hoover, and a veritable slew of other screamy bands. It's important to note that, at this point, "emo" was not a negative term. It was an emerging term to describe a type of music that was evolving out of punk and hardcore. It had absolutely nothing to do with crybabies, crying, sweaters, thick black glasses, or any of the other, now trite, stereotypes of what "emo" is.
3. Once the term got around a good bit, a LOT of people who were loosely associated with the indie music scene (i.e. fans of bands like Sunny Day Real Estate) began misusing the term, mainly because they saw some singer-dude cry on stage and thought "this must be that new "emo" thing everybody is talkin about!"

This is, by a LARGE margin, a brief synopsis of the word "emo." Basically, it's a term that was misused by a lot of people who didn't know what they were talking about and eventually it got into Spin magazine to describe some shitbag band like Taking Back Sunday or, as mentioned before, Sunny Day Real Estate. The word has had a LONG and sordid history, one that aging folks who grew up in the punk scene (such as myself) have had a hard time reconciling. Like many words, it's relative. To some, "emo" would be crybaby bands, but to some others who were involved back then, true "emo" is a brand of punk/hardcore typified by Spirit Assembly and any band released on Ebullition records in the early/mid 90s.

I honestly hate this word more than anything that has ever been leaked to the media from the music scene. And I also hate that I couldn't hold myself back from writing this post.

And I also HATE it when people label themselves or others, pigeonholing them into some bullshit genre or stereotype of person. Human beings cannot be thought of that way. I know most of you know that obvious fact, but maybe some people don't (hint hint).

preach on brothuh, I came up the same way and hearing the word emo used today is like nails down a chalkboard. you just want to grab those kids and shake them and tell them they have no idea what they are talking about.

That's a pretty good site. I wish you hadn't posted this while I was writing my post, then I wouldn't have had to. It's interesting that this person considers Moss Icon to be the first "emo" band. Like I said, the history of the word is extremely based on hearsay and speculation, and is the source of, as I'm sure you know, some volatile sentiments amongst some circles.

yeah you'll certainly have the mixed opinions on "true" first band. Hell I guess you have that with any genre of music.

enigma

for one thing .. if you have something to say - say it. This is a forum for that very reason.

I debate this topic with friends constantly ... its interesting - especially if you are older and have seen the music genres splinter into a million different divisions the way it has since the 60's. Music has always had a very strong impact on many aspects of youth culture - fashion being the most visible.

In the 60's you had rock - (which was broken into psychedelic, country-rock, pop, and a few other styles), there was country and western, there was jazz, blues, and a few other dominant genres.
I know i've left out or forgotten a number more, but nothing like there is today ..
There is at least 10, probably a lot more, different distinct types of metal alone. And goth has split into a ton of different types ...
Names of styles withing the genres I never knew existed.

With most of these genres come a distinct style of fashion.
From before i was born, certain bands have tried to develope a look as individualistic as their music. Something they could be identified with. The Beatles is an early obvious example.
And since there was popular music, the kids/fans have always wanted to emulate the dress of those bands as a way to identify with them. This is where many - if not most - of the fashion trends come from. (i'm talking youth fashion here - not Milan runway fashion - although the music fashions will often influence haute-couture)

So - you will see kids pigionhole themselves as this or that. Its unfair to dismiss someone for labelling those that desperately wish to be labelled. (unless they dont know what the hell they are talking about - like most old people who havent been paying attention to anything for the last 40 years and still think all kids are hippies)

So many followers of certain types of music have to dress an exact way to the point where it becomes a uniform. There was a specific punk look, a specific goth look, grunge, ska, you name it.
What bristled me was twofold ... people dressing goofy to say that they were being individualistic .. when they were actually trying desperately hard to look just like everyone else in their circle, and the ones that say they dont like to be labelled - when they are trying desperately hard to look just like everyone else in their circle.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with expressing yourself (or more to the point - expressing someone else) just dont get all defensive and sensitive if someone referes to your look as 'goth' if you are running around in the middle of summer dressed like draculas bride.
Most of the outragious fashions are done to get a rise out of the old folks anyway .. and if you kids think you're the first ones to do it .. guess again - your folks did it to your grand parents, and so on. Its a natural progression of developement .. growth through rebellion.
It kills me when i'm walking in a mall and a couple of kids in foot high blue and pink mohawks strut around looking at people daring them to get a reaction.
Most people (in Toronto anyway) are so used to it that no one cares ... I laugh at the attitude myself - not the fashion.

i guess in summary i'm saying - what the hell, if it feels good, do it.
but dont get all uppity when someone calls your spade a spade ...
After all they are just aknowledging that you achieved exactly what you set out to do.

me - i've worn converse sneakers, blue jeans, and tshirts ever since i was 5. My influence was practicality. I dont think about what i'm wearing .. i just grab the 1st thing off the pile.
Probably because my musical tastes were so diverse that i couldnt possibly dress like my influences without developing a serious multiple personality disorder or becoming incredibly broke.

LOL its all emo stuff in the ^^^^ search lol

I'm a beer drinking fun loving father of four 46 year old horror movie loving southern-rock-blues-jam man,video game playing immature son-of-a-bitch.










thats me...in a nut shell.:D

I'm the guy that says FUCK YOU to any kind of categorisation, self or otherwise.
What a person "is" shouldn't be something defined simple terms, and to put it down to one word is clearly overlooking MANY factors that make us what we are.

I leave categorisation to the ignorant.

that's a categorisation ...

C'mon Cheeb....your the bad ass, rat loving rebel from down under who likes to cook.:D


Btw....whats going on with Vod.....he's never on here or his site lately.

Fuck you.

Looks like were getting angry Cheeb tonight.

Mellow out dude. Its the weekend.

pass de dutchie on de left 'and side,
pass de dutchie on de right 'and side...

or i prefer

I'll drive a million miles
To be with you tonight
So if you're feeling low
Turn up your radio
The words we use are strong
They make reality
But now the music's on
Oh baby dance with me yeah.

Rip it up
Move down
Rip it up
Move it down to the ground
Rip it up
Cool down
Rip it up
And get the feeling not the word.

Everybody have fun tonight
Everybody have fun tonight
Everybody Wang Chung tonight
Everybody have fun tonight
Everybody Wang Chung tonight

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lol

i guess you could say i'm sheltered and arrogent actually i wouldnt exactly say arrogent i'm more like a smartass arrogant people think they're the shit and trust me that's the last thing i think.

Now, why would anyone want to 'Categorize' themselves?

What I wear on the outside is an expression of who and what I am on the inside...I would NEVER want to be 'trendy' and I haven't a clue what the word 'fashion' means (which is obvious to anyone who knows me)...If I like something, I'll wear it, if I don't, I won't, no matter what anyone/everyone else is or isn't wearing...

@Urge...I'm basically a jeans and T-shirt person as well, mine just tend to be black because that's the color that I like the most...Just as you may choose to wear blue more than another color...I wear my 'accessories' just as someone else may wear jewelry...It's just something that I like, it doesn't matter to me if anyone else likes it...I dress for myself, and ONLY myself...

Ive been called Goth, Vampire, Witch, Freak, Crazy, Devil Worshipper, Scary, even BIKER (if you can believe that), and some not so nice things, as well...But, I am just ME. I dont fit into any box. The only thing close to a label that I will accept is 'different'...

I suppose that I can accept 'Scorpio' as a label, its pretty much the only thing that really suits me, although I have to admit 'vampire' comes close for many reasons, but probably none of the reasons you may think...Mostly just because I am pale, I have pointy teeth, I'm a night person, and I avoid the sun like the plague, simply because it doesn't agree with me, NOT because I am trying to BE a vampire...It burns my skin, makes me swell, blister and peel, it also hurts my eyes,which gives me headaches, and I simply have no energy in the daytime, it really feels like the sun drains me...I'm really hyper at night, though...People also call me a vampire when I tell them how old I am, and anyone who knows me can attest to the fact that I really haven't changed much since I was 20...I still dress, act, speak, think, feel and sound the same way as I always have...Of course I don't LOOK exactly the same, but pretty damned close...People who haven't seen me in YEARS, always say, "Wow, you haven't changed at all"...Well, they probably wouldn't say that NOW with my hair all cut off and dyed black, but always before...Yeah, I'm pretty boring...

nicely said i've been called a bunch of dumb shit too for the way i dress i've had people call me a fag just because i have long hair. and everybody that does that kinda shit is justa asshole that needs to stop and think about how stupid it is to judge somebody by what they wear or how they wear their hair or anything else.

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none of them.

urgeok:

I'll agree with you on several points (the most of anyone so far). I agree that people dress a certain way to portray a certain image. But it doesn't stop there. Since we're talking about music, I will be the first to admit that at one time I listened to music that I honestly didn't like too much, just because it was the cool thing to be listening to. So yes, I think people do pigeonhole themselves and project themselves onto stereotypes. Life imitates art (I think).

What I don't agree with is that you seem to be saying that this makes it ok for us to categorize people. That, since they want to be thought of in a certain way, it's ok to do it. I think a good example of this would be a conversation a friend of mine and I had. He's the manager of a record store in a semi-ghetto area of Dallas. He was talking about how much he hates it that, when he sees a young black dude come in with baggy clothes and some sort of headband, that he thinks they are a drug dealer/"gangsta" and are going to steal something... so he watches them. Now, this young person might be trying to portray that EXACT image, one of a lawless drug dealer/gangster, but it's just morally not right to assume that about him.

Everyone judges everyone else, and if you say you don't, you're lying. Most people I know judge people based on their taste, or lack thereof, in the arts (music especially, but books and film and other stuff too). And since we have established that music often has a heavy influence on fashion, we can assume that most people I know judge others based merely on what they are wearing... and what that says about what they are into.

One word REBEL!! I don't like being told what to do. I don't kiss ass, i can respect other peoples opinions, but i will stand my ground on what i belive to be right. I shoot straight and i will tell you right now most people don't like that. with me what you see is what you get. I don't want to be like everyone else, I love shocking people. I have been told alot to grow up. Fuck that!!

grow up... when you want to... DON'T BAN ME PLEASE! lol