texas chainsaw massacre the truth
 

i was told years ago that tcm was inspired by a true crime that happend in texas. it was a true crime but in plainfield wisconsin in 1959. the killers name was eddie gein.

want to hear the true gore? not for the faint of heart.

lay it on me

when they checed the house out it was almost impossible to walk through the room the smellof filth and decompositionwas overwhelming. first thing they saw was a womens body dangling from the beam upsidedown it had been decapitated split open and gutted. they had stumbled into a death farm. there was a bowl made fome a human skull, lampshades and wastbasket made frome human skin.finally a suit made entirely of human skin.

While it was Eddie Gein (or whatever) the movie is far more entertaining than real life. Yes, it was Wisconsin, and there were no chainsaws. He had a lot of bones and such, but that was because he was a gravedigger and necrophiliac. I believe he admitted to murdering a person or two, but that was about it. No chainsaws, no Texas, no massacres, no weird family...

:mad:

the movie was better than the truth,but i thought it would be cool to know what really happend.

this is my first time on any chatroom and i lovehorror so please don't rip me a new one.

no ones gonna rip you a new one here, although it could have been placed in true crime welcome aboard, care to name a few of your favorite horror movies?

okay there is about 10 other threads about this subject.... TCM does fucking rock and it a great film... the remake was great but not as good as the original IMO :D

i have so many but all the hellraiser movies,wrong turn,vanpire movies,event horizen13 ghosts.

if you want to know the whole truth then watch the ed gein movie

theres one on gacey too.

"ed gein" really doesnt depict edward`s life..... that is why i say dont go and watch the movie.... go read the books and get the tapes to his confessions....

Welcome to like 25 years ago!

THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE DID HAPPEN IN TRAVIS COUNTY TEXAS. AND THE HEWITT FAMILY WAS REAL THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE IS INSPIRED BY THE ED GEIN STORY CAUSE THE PRODUCERS OF THE ORIGINAL TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE HAD NO IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY SO THEY TOOK ED GEIN'S STORY AND APPLIED IT TO THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THAT THE TCM NEVER HAPPENED CAUSE IT DID THAT FOOTAGE YOU SEE ON THE REMAKE IS 100% REAL THAT IS THOMAS HEWITT A.K.A LEATHERFACE IN THE FLESH (NO PUN INTENDED).

i just spent the last hour looking up thomas hewitt in travis co. tx. found nothing real. so where did you get your info? what town was it?

THERE'S NOTHING ON IT CAUSE IT'S STILL IN THE COLD CASES DIVISION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I OBVIOUSLY CAN'T BE 100% SURE BUT THE CASE IS NEVER GOING TO BE SOLVED AND AS LONG AS IT STAYS UNSOLVED THE FILES WILL REMAIN IN THE COLD CASES DIVISION AND AS LONG AS IT STAYS IN THE COLD CASES DIVISION THERE WON'T BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO JUST LOOK UP.

I DON'T SEE WHAT'S SO HARD TO BELIEVE IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MICHAEL MYERS OR PINHEAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME PSYCHO WHO LIVED IN TEXAS WITH HIS PSYCHO FAMILY AND HE KILLED PEOPLE WITH A CHAINSAW. WHAT'S SO HARD TO BELIEVE ABOUT THAT?

i didn't say i don't believe, it just when i shoot of my bigmouth, and i do that alot,i want to be sure i have the facts right.i hate to be wrong.

If they didnt really know what happend then how the hell do they know he killed people with a chainsaw.....??

THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE DID HAPPEN IN TRAVIS COUNTY TEXAS. AND THE HEWITT FAMILY WAS REAL THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE IS INSPIRED BY THE ED GEIN STORY CAUSE THE PRODUCERS OF THE ORIGINAL TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE HAD NO IDEA OF WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY SO THEY TOOK ED GEIN'S STORY AND APPLIED IT TO THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE. I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THAT THE TCM NEVER HAPPENED CAUSE IT DID THAT FOOTAGE YOU SEE ON THE REMAKE IS 100% REAL THAT IS THOMAS HEWITT A.K.A LEATHERFACE IN THE FLESH (NO PUN INTENDED).



I will never believe that any footage on the remake is real. The story (that the remake uses real footage) feels very Blair Witch to me.

In all my years as a TCM fan I only started to hear the Hewitt story when the newest film came out. Nowhere in older interviews that I've read did Tobe Hooper or any of the cast and crew mention the Hewitt story.

I'm not denying it but I want more facts.

PS. I recently moved to Travis county (Austin), TX.

ok bud. so exactly where (what CREDIBLE source) did you get this information. and as far as that film at the beginning and end of the movie, um sorry to let you down, but that was fabricated. its a movie bro. tobe hooper even said it was inspired by gein.

thank you, i was pretty sure my ifo on ed g. was corret i've done a lot of reasurch on the subject and that was the most relyable info i could find. if anyone knows anything new let me know where you found it.

I remember hearing something about how TCM was based on a true story right out of Texas...never knew the details just figured after the movie came out it became a post movie Urban Legand.. Im sure everyone has heard a version of "oh yea that was true I heard it from so and so who heard it from yada yada" and so on and so forth... Alot of hollywood movies have "post" movie Urban Legands....People get too board with it just being a movie and have to add a "TRUE STORY" touch too it. You would think if it was a true story would them proclaim it one after the remake? Just a thought....

i remember watching a program on IFC called "The American Nightmare" directed by Adam Simon. It was a documentary sort of show that they aired around Halloween a couple years back. In the program they interviewed many different people including Romero, Cronenberg, Craven, Carpenter, Savini, Tobe Hooper and an assortment of critics and professors.... anyhoo, Hooper stated that he got the idea for TCM (aside from Ed Gein's story) while he was in the hardware department of a store during the Christmas season; there were tons of people (as there usually is that time of year) and he wondered what would be the fastest way to get out of the store... then he noticed the chainsaws. Voila, there was (part of) the inspiration for one of the most controversial horror movies ever made.
http://www.houseofhorrors.com/tcm.htm
http://www.houseofhorrors.com/gein.htm

OK ONE OF YOU SAID IF THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WENT ON OUT THERE THEN HOW DO THEY KNOW HE KILLED PEOPLE WITH A CHAINSAW?

THE POLICE FOUND A FEW DEAD BODIES WITH SEVERED LIMBS AND A CHAINSAW WITH BLOOD ALL OVER IT AND THEY PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER.

AND ONE OF YOU SAID IT'S A MOVIE IT'S ALL FAKE.

JUST CAUSE IT'S A MOVIE DOES'NT MEAN IT'S ALL FAKE BRO.
THERE'S A MOVIE OUT RIGHT NOW CALLED RADIO, THEY SAY THAT'S INSPIRED BY A TRUE STORY WITH ACTUALL FOOTAGE OF THE REAL RADIO. SO IS ALL OF THAT FAKE JUST CAUSE IT'S A MOVIE?

AND ALL OF YOU PRETTY MUCH MADE REFFERENCES TO GEIN I NEVER SAID THE MOVIE WAS'NT ABOUT GEIN I'M ACTUALLY SAYING THAT THE MOVIE IS PROBABLY ABOUT A GOOD 85 OR 90%
ABOUT GEIN THAT'S WHAT INSPIRED BY A TRUE STORY MEANS MUCH LIKE THE GUY IN RADIO NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE HELL WENT ON WITH THAT GUY OR THE SCHOOL'S FOOTBALL COACH SO THEY USED ANOTHER STORY AND TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE INVOLVED AND MADE THE MOVIE JUST LIKE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE THEY DID'NT KNOW WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED SO THEY USED ED GEIN'S STORY TO FILL IN THE BLANKS CAUSE ALL THEY KNEW WAS A OLD HOUSE A FEW MILES OFF A DIRT ROAD WHERE THE HEWITT FAMILY LIVED THERE WAS A GUY MURDERING PEOPLE AND HE USED A CHAINSAW TO DO IT SOMETIMES.

There's no documentation - anywhere - about a serial killer named Thomas Hewitt.

If there were existing film of this guy attacking someone with a chainsaw I guarantee you that he would be more well-known by now than Gein, Gacy, etc.

If there were existing film of anyone attacking cops with a chainsaw I guarantee you that it would have been floating around the internet for years now.

If this film existed, and they included it in the new TCM, police departments and victims families would be all over the news crawling up the asses of the filmmakers.

Is there anyplace where
-the people who made the new TCM talked about being inspired by the real Hewitt family murders?
-Tobe Hooper and Kim Henkel talked about being inspired by the real Hewitt family murders?
-anybody has written anything about a serial killer with the last name of Hewitt?

THERE IS'NT ANY FILM OF HIM ATTACKING A POLIEMAN WITH A CHAINSAW OR ANYBODY ELSE WITH A CHAINSAW.

THEY HAVE TAPE OF THE POLICE WALK THROUGH OF THE HOUSE AND THEY WENT DOWN INTO THE BASEMENT AND HE WAS DOWN THERE. THEY DID'TN SECURE THE SCENE PROPERLY.

HAVE YOU WATCHED THE REMAKE? WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM THAT THERE'S FILM OF HIM ATTACKING SOMEONE WITH A CHAINSAW?

LOOK IT'S NOT LIKE I'M SOME KIND OF FANATIC ABOUT IF IT'S REAL OR NOT SO IF IT'S NOT I REALLY DON'T CARE AND IF IT IS I REALLY DON'T CARE ALL I KNOW IS THAT IT'S A CLASSIC MOVIE AND IF IT'S JUST THAT A MOVIE AND NOTHING ELSE THEN I BELIEVE YOU GUYS. I WAS JUST SAYING STUFF THAT I'VE HEARD NOT FROM A FRIEND BUT FROM THINGS I'VE DONE RESEARCH ON BUT IF MY RESEARCH IS'NT ACCURATE THEN I GUESS IT DID'NT HAPPEN.

BUT I DON'T SEE ANY REASON ANYONE WOULD HAVE TO LIE ABOUT IT. I MEAN TOBE HOPPER DID'NT SAY IT AS A MATTER OF FACT NOBODY WHO HAS EVER WORKED ON ANY TCM HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT IT I'M STATING ''FACTS'' THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM RESEARCH I'VE DONE.BUT NOBODY'S PERFECT IT'S HIGHLY POSSIBLE THAT I GOT IT WRONG.

I did see the remake. To be honest, I was nearly completely drunk (I saw it at the Alamo Drafthouse, where they will serve you beer while you watch exploitation films - it's like heaven) so my memory is questionable. But I thought the last scene (the film of the cops checking out the scene of the crime) had the cops going down into the basement, being surprised by Leatherface and apparently dying as we heard a chainsaw and saw a freeze-frame of Leatherface.

Since we started talking about it I did some research and haven't been able to find any old newspaper articles or whatever referring to a chainsaw serial killer in Austin. I did find an article (which I posted on my web site) where a Texas historian is interviewed about the Hewitt subject... check it out here. I have access to Lexus/Nexis and the archives of the Austin-American Statesman and could not find any references to "Hewitt" and "chainsaw" or "Hewitt" and "murder" or "Hewitt" and "serial killer".

I'm not trying to call bull$hit on you or anything, or start some sort of stupid flame war. It's just that lots of movies are using the 'based on a true story' tack as a publicity stunt. This technique recently goes back to the Blair Witch Project but really started with the movie Snuff. So please don't take this as an attack.

I'm just interested in what evidence you do have, because it would be a cool story if it were real. So you said your research did find something out about a Hewitt story. What did you find out and where did you find it?

peace-

there is no evidence !!!!! i researched this using travis co, the hewitt name and there is nothing it's all bullshit.

Ive seen this too, and its on the DVD if you guys really want the truth just buy the original in the collectors dvd and watch the commentary. They talk about how everyone insist that its real, how people have told Tobe Hooper that they're uncle or whoever shared a cell with the real leather face. They think its funny. [Not tryin to shit on you hear austin, this is mainly for the newbs who INSIST its real and make up lies about it like knowing the members.Ur cool tho austin so no hard fealins bringin up an old thread]AND HONESTLY GUYS IF YOU PAY CLOSE ENOUGHT ATTENTION TO THE INTRO THAT SAYS ITS REAL! IT SAYS THE MURDERS TOOK PLACE IN 1973, THE EXACT YEAR THE MOVIE DEBUTED MEANING THEY MADE MOST OF IT IN 71 ,72, THEY MAKE THAT POINT IN THE COMENTARY TOO. just watch it guys itll answer your questions and its funny as shit too. Gunnar Henson owns!

like they would show actual footage of someone killing another person with a chainsaw on a major motion picture. think of all the lawsuits involved.

For real, it just doesnt make since. Its amazing how devoted people are to believing this lol.

You can convince people of damn near anything. Some people still believe the Blair Witch Project was real.

well anyone who believes shit like that well...
lets jus say they aint the brightest crayon in the box

What the hell do you mean? Just kidding...

Someone once tried to convince me that the Blair Witch Project was real because the police found the film buried underneath the house... I suggested to him that maybe that bit made up too but he wasn't buying it.

Haha, good one. I do that sometimes when people tell me wrestling's fake. LOL.

Doctor Robert Kleasen
 

I'm hoping this will help clear things up a little bit. After doing some research on the subject I have found that Austin is NOT completely wrong. It appears that yes there was a chainsaw killer in Travis County, TX. His name was Doctor Robert Kleasen. You can find out a little bit more on him here . I haven't researched him a whole lot but I thought that it was interesting. If anyone else finds out any more information on him I'd love to hear about it.

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PS... I just finished watching TCM (the remake) and their were "two officers fatally wonded" at the end. I don't know if that means anything but someone said that none of the cops died at the end of the remake of TCM.

That is pretty interesting.

However, the link says that he committed the murders on 10/28/74; I think that TCM was released before that. So it's unlikely that the filmmakers were influenced by him.

I just did a Lexis/Nexis search on him but am unable to come up with any criminal documents. However I did find his rejected appeal, which I saved on my web site here. It gives some details of the case, including the location, which is pretty close to the new Austin, Texas airport.