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g star 11-03-2004 07:24 PM

real vs fake
 
it's funny. i've seen every kind of death/injury you could imagine in the multiple of horror movies i've seen. usually i laugh or applaud. but the other day a friend of mine showed me a website (i think it might have been called steakandcheese.com for any of those interested) which had a ton of videos of real deaths, real injuries, etc. we're talking terrorist beheadings, baseball players taking a 100 mph fastball to the nose, kickboxers snapping there legs in half, skateboarders skinning their faces, random people getting run over by cars, etc. i can't watch that crap. it kills me. everytime i close my eyes i see that street fight i saw where i guy gets his head repeatedly bashed against a brick wall. that shit makes me so sick in real life. yet, for some reason when i see it fictionally portrayed i get excited. why is that?

newb 11-03-2004 07:28 PM

Re: real vs fake
 
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Originally posted by g star
that shit makes me so sick in real life. yet, for some reason when i see it fictionally portrayed i get excited. why is that?
Because your normal.

Sorry to break it to you.;)

FilthyCannibal 11-03-2004 07:49 PM

Same here. I can watch the nastiest horror movies, but I can't even watch surgury on TV. I suppose that you know going into a movie that it's fake, so your relaxed. If you know it's real, your going to be on edge.

Plus most gory horror movies are made that way to shock some and please the fans. I don't see how people watch real things like that. Curiousity I suppose.

gren 11-03-2004 09:17 PM

surgery doesnt bother me, its gross but doesnt bother me

its the context of it. horror movies are fake, surgery is doing it normally to help someone. but in the shit u saw, yeh thats pain, anger.. someone whos probably not comin back

ive seen maybe 2, possibly 3 of those type of things and i never plan on seeing again. at least so long asi can help it (im gonna be a cop,.. so i gotta expect it)

dantehorrorfan 11-03-2004 09:20 PM

Re: real vs fake
 
Quote:

Originally posted by g star
it's funny. i've seen every kind of death/injury you could imagine in the multiple of horror movies i've seen. usually i laugh or applaud. but the other day a friend of mine showed me a website (i think it might have been called steakandcheese.com for any of those interested) which had a ton of videos of real deaths, real injuries, etc. we're talking terrorist beheadings, baseball players taking a 100 mph fastball to the nose, kickboxers snapping there legs in half, skateboarders skinning their faces, random people getting run over by cars, etc. i can't watch that crap. it kills me. everytime i close my eyes i see that street fight i saw where i guy gets his head repeatedly bashed against a brick wall. that shit makes me so sick in real life. yet, for some reason when i see it fictionally portrayed i get excited. why is that?
the real thing and the fake thing dont bother me........i guess i can just handle blood,guts,and gore..........gore's fuckin awsome:D

Hate_Breeder 11-03-2004 09:45 PM

I have too much sympathy for real people i suppose. I couldnt watch people get murdered in real life. It would probably make me cry before it makes me puke

ShankS 11-03-2004 11:25 PM

Re: real vs fake
 
Quote:

Originally posted by g star
it's funny. i've seen every kind of death/injury you could imagine in the multiple of horror movies i've seen. usually i laugh or applaud. but the other day a friend of mine showed me a website (i think it might have been called steakandcheese.com for any of those interested) which had a ton of videos of real deaths, real injuries, etc. we're talking terrorist beheadings, baseball players taking a 100 mph fastball to the nose, kickboxers snapping there legs in half, skateboarders skinning their faces, random people getting run over by cars, etc. i can't watch that crap. it kills me. everytime i close my eyes i see that street fight i saw where i guy gets his head repeatedly bashed against a brick wall. that shit makes me so sick in real life. yet, for some reason when i see it fictionally portrayed i get excited. why is that?
Its a moral issue.

When you watch a horror film, before you insert the DVD, you know you will be watching a 'created' world, even if the locations displayed within the film are real....the events have had no 'real' negative effect on any any life.

When you watch something that is portrayed to be 'real', then you know that before you subject yourself to watching the 'scenes' you have understood that actual lives have been effected by what you are going to watch or have just seen. This has an affect on your morrals causing an emotional response, that you have either disliking or liking too.......

This shows that some people will be able to watch 'real' scenes without being disturbed, whereas some will find the scenes uncomfortable to watch.

I myself, do find scenes disturbing, If I know that they have had some effect on a real life.

urgeok 11-04-2004 03:04 AM

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Originally posted by Hate_Breeder
I have too much sympathy for real people i suppose. I couldnt watch people get murdered in real life. It would probably make me cry before it makes me puke

exactly ...
i told the last person who sent me one of those 'guy being hit by a train' videos that the next video circulating around the internet would be me kicking his ass.

I see shit like that and unlike the 'face your fears' tough ass bravado boys, i see that thing every time i close my eyes.
Like i said in another post when you see it in a movie you see the work of FX and makeup people. When you see it on the news your seeing someones child/husband/mother/sister ..etc being removed form the earth in one horrible second.
And if thats not bad enough .. some sick fuck thinks its funny and puts you on a website.
Nice world we live in where people take entertainment from the sorrow of others.

EXTR3MIST 11-04-2004 03:50 AM

Do bear in mind the majority of "shocking" footage to be found on the Internet is fabrication.

There are a number of familiar scenes to be found on some of the usual notorious sites that are from genuine stock footage (various third-world executions and Asian dead bodies for example), but most of the more outrageous and disagreeable "tortures", "killings" and "accidents" are in fact mock-ups.

The digitized computer medium makes these fakes easier to produce than on video, where inconsistencies between frames are more obvious and are less likely to fool.

Probably controversially, the recent widely publicized beheadings in Iraq are recreated for the camera rather than the genuine authentic acts they are supposed to be. Although extremely distasteful to watch, once one is over the initial revulsion every case examined shows blatant evidence of technical tampering and - in some cases - the production values of these scenes are so bad they should not fool a five-year-old into believing they are real.

The hostages are still dead, of course.

wufong 11-04-2004 04:11 AM

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Originally posted by newb
Because your normal.

Sorry to break it to you.;)

thats what i was thinking as i was reading what he said.. then i scrolled down and i saw that you have all ready it said. :mad: man i was about to finaly say something wise and inyelligent and ruined it. i hope you're happy.

MichaelMyers 11-04-2004 05:14 AM

I can watch people die or be operated on or whatever, but have a problem watching animals die.

Modestas 11-04-2004 03:29 PM

filthy cannibal from which horror movie is your avatar? it looks quite scary for me.

The_Return 11-04-2004 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by Modestas
filthy cannibal from which horror movie is your avatar? it looks quite scary for me.
Psycho. Awesome movie....a bit overrated, but still awesome.


I can take anything in a movie, plus surgey on TV and stuff....but itz the real things that get to me....I agree with you MM, however, Id rather see people in pain then animals

chaplain 11-04-2004 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by Hate_Breeder
I have too much sympathy for real people i suppose. I couldnt watch people get murdered in real life. It would probably make me cry before it makes me puke

thats a very honest and humane answer.

chaplain 11-04-2004 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I can watch people die or be operated on or whatever, but have a problem watching animals die.

Thats because animals have what no human(other than children) have: innocence.

chaplain 11-04-2004 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by wufong
thats what i was thinking as i was reading what he said.. then i scrolled down and i saw that you have all ready it said. :mad: man i was about to finaly say something wise and inyelligent and ruined it. i hope you're happy.

Even though people jump all over you alot, I find most of your posts intelligent.

theshadow 11-04-2004 05:11 PM

yes, i read true crime books all the time and it upsets me most when they kill children and animals. Also i love hockey fights but can't stand to see guys fighting on the street.

gren 11-04-2004 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by chaplain
Thats because animals have what no human(other than children) have: innocence.
werd. but would be much more accurate if u replaced children with babies....

:D

chaplain 11-04-2004 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by gren
werd. but would be much more accurate if u replaced children with babies....

:D


No, I meant children, they are innocent until an adult corrupts them.

gren 11-04-2004 05:30 PM

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Originally posted by chaplain
No, I meant children, they are innocent until an adult corrupts them.
at least wheni remember growingu p, i was friends with everyone, including the fat/smelly kid. and guess what? the other kids didnt like me simply because i was friends with that kid....

not so innocent IMO

chaplain 11-04-2004 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by gren
at least wheni remember growingu p, i was friends with everyone, including the fat/smelly kid. and guess what? the other kids didnt like me simply because i was friends with that kid....

not so innocent IMO


Whatever, I see your point, but we both have our opinion.

gren 11-04-2004 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by chaplain
Whatever, I see your point, but we both have our opinion.
just saying children can be lil punks too...

chaplain 11-04-2004 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by gren
just saying children can be lil punks too...

Who taught them that?

gren 11-04-2004 05:41 PM

good question

at least the earliest i can remember is 1st grade. my parents never once told me 'be kind to everyone' nor 'pick on peopel woh are different from u'.. at least not at that age.

while i HAVE met a few people whos parents really did tell them something along those lines (in this case. it was mother telling daughters 'do not marry a filipino, i want u to marry a white man')... my GUESS is that the majority of parents try to teach their kids to accept all people

so....? shit, studies have shown even babies will gaze more so at the pretty face than an ugly one.... but its one thing to just think that, and another to act it... columbine type shit isnt only in HS, that shit would happen even in elementary school..

urgeok 11-04-2004 07:27 PM

there is a pack animal instinct built into us .. its part of that survival thing .. its in our genes (we are pack animals - like it or not)
Some people are able to rise above that - others arent so strong.

Pack behaviour is learned quickly ..

and it stays with people a long time .. for proof, just skim through the threads in this forum :)

Tubalcain 11-04-2004 07:27 PM

i have driven up on car wrecks, and have seen several dead people. tried to do cpr on one of them, but it didnt help, his neck was broken. and ive seen a man get his head mashed off in a machine, and i can honestly say that i was always shocked, but it didnt really bother me untill i sat down and thought about it. the worst part is when i try to go to sleep at night, sometimes i can still see them.

Haphazard 11-04-2004 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by urgeok
there is a pack animal instinct built into us .. its part of that survival thing .. its in our genes (we are pack animals - like it or not)
Some people are able to rise above that - others arent so strong.

Pack behaviour is learned quickly ..

and it stays with people a long time .. for proof, just skim through the threads in this forum :)

YEAH! I'm with urge on that one. Who else is with me!???

:D

FilthyCannibal 11-04-2004 07:31 PM

Stuff like that is such a shock to your system, the images will probably always stick with you. Reality sucks.

urgeok 11-04-2004 07:34 PM

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Originally posted by Haphazard
YEAH! I'm with urge on that one. Who else is with me!???

:D


ahahahahah knucklehead ! :)


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