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funny how people wont even give it a chance, just because its michael moore

whether or not you want to believe it, he DOES bring up good points. many of which are bi-partisan

"we are a nation based on fear. turn to the local newstation and you hear account after account of child abduction. yet child abduction rates have actually gone down in the past decades"

^^^ so whats wrong with sayin that? shit....

you guys get mad at people who say 'BUSH SUCKS AND DID NOTHING GOOD FOR AMERICA!" when in reality, yes he did. the amount is disputed, but he did do some good things. you michael moore dissers are just as bad as the Bush ones. me? i try and take everything for what it is. singularly, im not gonna base Bush off of one event, same with moore, oreilly, etc...

GDIS

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Originally posted by Gothic-chick
Actually Kerry was commander of 2 swift boats in the Mekong Delta in Vietnam, and earned a silver star, bronze star with "V" decoration , and 3 purple hearts for wounds in battle.

Bush was in the National Guard and volunteered to go to Vietnam but was turned down because he didn't have enough flight time as a combat pilot in the F-102 interceptor, which he flew for the Texas National Guard.

In 1992 when Clinton was running and receiving criticism for dodging the draft and then later lying about it Kerry defended Clinton , saying service during the war shouldn't matter. From the senate floor he complained Vietnam had been inserted into the campaign.

When Kerry began HIS campaign for president, suddenly Vietnam service became important for presidential platforms.

ALL military service is commendable , that includes National Guard service as well as peace time soldiers.

Kerry has been exploiting his service for political gain since he requested an early release to pursue anti-war politics.

The bottom line is Kerry went to war in Vietnam, and Bush stayed in Texas.

I don't really care if he's running on his war record or not. The assertion was made that he was a "pussy". Personally, I would much rather be in the trenches with Kerry than George Bush.

I think a civil conversation could be had without any name-calling.

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Originally posted by MichaelMyers
I think a civil conversation could be had without any name-calling.

if u r referring to gothic chic, she resorted to that sort of thing in an abortion debate a while back. which is why i tend to keep away from her

GDIS

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Originally posted by MichaelMyers
Very eloquent, no doubt, but is it true? If "life, liberty, and property" was a "God given right", it would be far more universal than it is or ever has been, and other cultures would be far more receptive to it than they are. The truth is that "democracy" and "liberty" as most in the West understand them have flourished only in the West and only in fairly recent eras.

What that means is that attempts to implant, spread or enforce democracy where it has no historical roots and doesn't belong will not only fail but will most likely create chaos and eventually tyranny—which is why such policies are a dangerous idea.

If life, freedom and property are not from God then where could they come from? For me, My faith in God is what lets me know that these are rights everyone is entitled to. Now what political system allows people to experience these freedoms is no concern of mine just that they are allowed to have them. In my belief we as humans should not impede anothers availibility to experience these rights. But it is God creation and at any time he may ask us to endure slavery, hardship, and even death.

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Originally posted by Radical Edward
if u r referring to gothic chic, she resorted to that sort of thing in an abortion debate a while back. which is why i tend to keep away from her

GDIS

I don't see where Gothic-chick called anybody a name in this thread other than Michael Moore. What are you trying to do Fluffho? Stir up more trouble?

You better recheck yourself.

1) myers response, including that statement regarding name-calling, were in response to GC's

2) i first met GC during an abortion debate, where she called anyone who believed in abortions all sorts of names....

3) i added 'if u are refering" on the chance that he wasnt talking to her. then even explained #2

4) i didnt stir up the trouble. it was Je. i only added slightly to it (must i explain myself a 5th time... rather not).

so you were saying?

GDIS

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Originally posted by Radical Edward
if u r referring to gothic chic, she resorted to that sort of thing in an abortion debate a while back. which is why i tend to keep away from her

GDIS

I tend to stay away from you too because you have nothing to say that's of any value to me....

GDYNS !!!!

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Originally posted by Gothic-chick
I tend to stay away from you too because you have nothing to say that's of any value to me....

GDYNS !!!!

that is quite a come back......

although i must say i DO commend you on you accurate explanation of the whole .. 'situation'.. for lack of a better term. u had just about 97% of it correct....

GDIS

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Originally posted by Radical Edward
1) myers response, including that statement regarding name-calling, were in response to GC's

2) i first met GC during an abortion debate, where she called anyone who believed in abortions all sorts of names....

3) i added 'if u are refering" on the chance that he wasnt talking to her. then even explained #2

4) i didnt stir up the trouble. it was Je. i only added slightly to it (must i explain myself a 5th time... rather not).

so you were saying?

GDIS

I'm saying..... She called no one a name in THIS thread other than Moore. Why do you feel the need to call her out about another thread in this thread? Unless.... your trying to start something?

As you were saying?

What's that at the bottom of your page? Looks like your calling everyone a bitch?

As you were saying?