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Sculpt 07-17-2014 11:05 PM

I support:
Dances With Wolves
Citizen Kane
Pulp Fiction
Fight Club
A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
The Lion King
Metropolis (1927)
Tron
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
The Lord of the Rings
THIS IS SPINAL TAP
The Deer Hunter
A Christmas Carol

Back Burner Films I support:
Broadcast News
The Matrix
Gandhi
When Harry Met Sally
Annie Hall
Crash
Forrest Gump
Groundhog Day
Yellow Submarine
On Golden Pond
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey

I neg:
Gran Torino
Willow
Road to Perdition
The Fifth Element
A HARD DAY'S NIGHT
Amelie
Escape From New York
HELP!
La Bamba
Mulholland Drive
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen
The Goonies
The Patriot
Time Bandits
Trainspotting
Philadelphia
Live Free or Die Hard
Super Troopers
The Crow
The Day After Tomorrow
The Naked Gun
Up
Star Trek (2009
Star Trek Into Darkness
Black Swan
Blazing Saddles
Kill Bill
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End (2007)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl - 2
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest (2006)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011)
Steel Magnolias

Giganticface 07-18-2014 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 973645)
Can I have a say in the films which are remaining? If no one objects, that is.

Heck yeah, of course!

_____V_____ 07-18-2014 05:48 AM

Strong Approvals:

Fight Club (+4)
Taxi Driver (+3)
THE DEER HUNTER (+3)
The Ten Commandments (1956) (+3)

A CHRISTMAS CAROL (+2)
A Fistful of Dollars (+2)
Argo (+2)
Ben Hur (+2)
Braveheart (+2)
Dances With Wolves (1990) (+2)
Django Unchained (+2)
Forrest Gump (+2)
Gandhi (+2)
Gettysburg (+2)
GoodFellas (+2)
Groundhog Day (+2)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (+2)
Planet of the Apes (1968) (+2)
Platoon (+2)
The Blind Side (+2)
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover (1989) (+2)
THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL (Robert Wise) (+2)
The Fountain (2006) (+2)
The Godfather II (+2)
The Green Mile (1999) (+2)
Wild Strawberries (1957) (+2)


Divided Opinions:

Black Swan (2010) (+3) (-1)
Steel Magnolias (+3) (-1)

BRAZIL (+2) (-1)
Gran Torino (+2) (-1)
Philadelphia (1993) (+2) (-1)
When Harry Met Sally (+2) (-1)
The Fifth Element [1997] (+2) (-1)

The Crow (+2) (-2)
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (+2) (-2)

Old Yeller (1957) (+1) (-1)
Kill Bill [2003] (+1) (-1)
Road To Perdition (+1) (-1)
The Social Network (+1) (-1)
Amelie (2001) (+1) (-1)
Mulholland Drive (2001) (+1) (-1)
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) (+1) (-1)
Time Bandits (1981) (+1) (-1)
Willow (1988) (+1) (-1)
Avatar (-1) (+1)

Blazing Saddles (+1) (-2)
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (-2) (+1)


Nominal Support:

9#11 (+1)
Amadeus (1984) (+1)
ANDREI RUBLEV (+1)
Annie Hall (+1)
Breaking The Waves (1996) (+1)
Broadcast News (+1)
Casino (+1)
City Lights (+1)
Come and See (1985) (+1)
Cool Hand Luke (+1)
Crash (+1)
Dancer In The Dark (2000) (+1)
Double Indemnity (1944) (+1)
Drowning By Numbers (1988) (+1)
Dune (1984) (+1)
Duck Soup (+1)
Dumbo (+1)
Erin Brockovich (+1)
Fitzcarraldo (1982) (+1)
FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (+1)
Glory (+1)
Legend (+1)
Modern Times (+1)
Music Man (+1)
Mystic River (+1)
Nightmare Alley (1947) (+1)
On Golden Pond (+1)
Princess Mononoke [1997] (+1)
RAN (+1)
Rear Window (+1)
Scum (1977) (+1)
Singing in the Rain (+1)
Sunset Boulevard (1950) (+1)
The African Queen (+1)
The Bicycle Thief (1948) (+1)
The Grapes of Wrath (+1)
The Music Room (1958) (+1)
The Neverending Story (+1)
The Piano Teacher (2001) (+1)
The Sting (+1)
The Third Man (1949) (+1)
Tron [1982] (+1)
Yellow Submarine (+1)


No Opinion:

8½ (1963)
Back to the Future Part II
Bottle Rocket
CROSS OF IRON
DAMNATION
Duck You Sucker
Enemy At The Gates
Harold and Maude
Iron Will
Labyrinth
LAURA
M.A.S.H.
NORTH TO ALASKA
Once
PAPILLION
Paths of Glory
Punch Drunk Love
Raising Arizona
Romeo & Juliet [1996]
SATANTANGO
Spartacus
StreetBallers
Superman
THE APARTMENT
The Avengers
The Boondock Saints
THE COMANCHEROS
The Descendents
THE GETAWAY (Sam Peckinpah)
THE GREAT ESCAPE
The Great Race
The Hunt For Red October [1990]
The Hurt Locker
The Karate Kid
THE LONGEST DAY
The Naked Civil Servant (1975)
THE PIANIST
The Quiet Man (John Ford film)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER
The X-Men
Thunderheart (1992)
Walk The Line
Warrior
We Were Soldiers


Negated:

A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (-1)
Bugsy Malone (1976) (-1)
Coach Carter (-1)
Dazed and Confused (-1)
Dear John (-1)
Escape From New York (-1)
Friday (-1)
HELP! (-1)
La Bamba (1987) (-1)
Rushmore (-1)
Sleeping Beauty (-1)
The Magnificent Seven [1960] (-1)
The Patriot (-1)
Tombstone [1993] (-1)
Toy Story (-1)
Trainspotting (-1)
Wall-E (-1)


Strongly Negated:

12 Rounds (-2)
21 Jump Street (-2)
Alice in Wonderland (2010) (-2)
I, Robot (-2)
Live Free or Die Hard [2007] (-2)
Mac and Devin go to High School (-2)
The Day After Tomorrow (-2)
The Goonies (1985) (-2)
Up (2009) (-2)

The Naked Gun [1988] (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End(2007) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest (2006) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) (-3)
Star Trek (2009) (-3)
Star Trek Into Darkness (-3)
Super Troopers (-3)


Further segregation is done. I'll wait for a few more opinions before throwing my voice out.

Sculpt 07-25-2014 02:03 PM

Nobody has voiced any opposition to you adding yourself as the 20th (I think it is) HDC member to participate. You have a few OKs, and no oppositions, so please participate at this point. The more the merrier!

_____V_____ 07-25-2014 09:33 PM

Moving the ones highlighted in BOLD, in the previous post, into the final selection.

Here are my choices: (italicised)


GoodFellas (+3)
Groundhog Day (+3)
Planet of the Apes (1968) (+3)
Platoon (+3)
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover (1989) (+3)
THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL (Robert Wise) (+3)
The Godfather II (+3)
The Green Mile (1999) (+3)


A CHRISTMAS CAROL (+2)
A Fistful of Dollars (+2)
Argo (+2)
Ben Hur (+2)
Braveheart (+2)
City Lights (+2)
Dances With Wolves (1990) (+2)
Django Unchained (+2)
Double Indemnity (1944) (+2)
Duck Soup (+2)
Forrest Gump (+2)
Gandhi (+2)
Gettysburg (+2)
Mystic River (+2)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (+2)
RAN (+2)
Rear Window (+2)
The Blind Side (+2)
The Fountain (2006) (+2)
The Third Man (1949) (+2)
Wild Strawberries (1957) (+2)


Divided Opinions:

Black Swan (2010) (+4) (-1)

BRAZIL (+3) (-1)
Steel Magnolias (+3) (-1)
When Harry Met Sally (+3) (-1)

The Fifth Element [1997] (+2) (-1)
Gran Torino (+2) (-1)
Kill Bill [2003] (+2) (-1)
Mulholland Drive (2001) (+2) (-1)
Philadelphia (1993) (+2) (-1)

Blazing Saddles (+2) (-2)
The Crow (+2) (-2)
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (+2) (-2)

Amelie (2001) (+1) (-1)
Avatar (-1) (+1)
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) (+1) (-1)
Old Yeller (1957) (+1) (-1)
Road To Perdition (+1) (-1)
The Social Network (+1) (-1)
Time Bandits (1981) (+1) (-1)
Wall-E (+1) (-1)
Willow (1988) (+1) (-1)

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (-2) (+1)


Nominal Support:

9#11 (+1)
Amadeus (1984) (+1)
ANDREI RUBLEV (+1)
Annie Hall (+1)
Bottle Rocket (+1)
Breaking The Waves (1996) (+1)
Broadcast News (+1)
Casino (+1)
Come and See (1985) (+1)
Cool Hand Luke (+1)
Crash (+1)
Dancer In The Dark (2000) (+1)
Drowning By Numbers (1988) (+1)
Dune (1984) (+1)
Dumbo (+1)
Erin Brockovich (+1)
Fitzcarraldo (1982) (+1)
FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (+1)
Glory (+1)
Harold and Maude (+1)
Legend (+1)
M.A.S.H. (+1)
Modern Times (+1)
Music Man (+1)
Nightmare Alley (1947) (+1)
On Golden Pond (+1)
Paths of Glory (+1)
Princess Mononoke [1997] (+1)
Scum (1977) (+1)
Singing in the Rain (+1)
Sunset Boulevard (1950) (+1)
The African Queen (+1)
The Bicycle Thief (1948) (+1)
The Grapes of Wrath (+1)
THE LONGEST DAY (+1)
The Music Room (1958) (+1)
The Neverending Story (+1)
The Piano Teacher (2001) (+1)
The Sting (+1)
Tron [1982] (+1)
Yellow Submarine (+1)


No Opinion:

8� (1963)
Back to the Future Part II
CROSS OF IRON
DAMNATION
Duck You Sucker
Enemy At The Gates
Iron Will
Labyrinth
LAURA
NORTH TO ALASKA
Once
PAPILLION
Punch Drunk Love
Raising Arizona
Romeo & Juliet [1996]
SATANTANGO
Spartacus
StreetBallers
Superman
THE APARTMENT
The Avengers
The Boondock Saints
THE COMANCHEROS
The Descendents
THE GETAWAY (Sam Peckinpah)
THE GREAT ESCAPE
The Great Race
The Hunt For Red October [1990]
The Hurt Locker
The Karate Kid
The Naked Civil Servant (1975)
THE PIANIST
The Quiet Man (John Ford film)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER
The X-Men
Thunderheart (1992)
Walk The Line
Warrior
We Were Soldiers


Negated:

A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (-1)
Bugsy Malone (1976) (-1)
Coach Carter (-1)
Dazed and Confused (-1)
Dear John (-1)
Escape From New York (-1)
Friday (-1)
HELP! (-1)
La Bamba (1987) (-1)
Rushmore (-1)
Sleeping Beauty (-1)
The Magnificent Seven [1960] (-1)
The Patriot (-1)
Tombstone [1993] (-1)
Toy Story (-1)
Trainspotting (-1)


Strongly Negated:

12 Rounds (-2)
21 Jump Street (-2)
Alice in Wonderland (2010) (-2)
I, Robot (-2)
Live Free or Die Hard [2007] (-2)
Mac and Devin go to High School (-2)
The Day After Tomorrow (-2)
The Goonies (1985) (-2)
Up (2009) (-2)

The Naked Gun [1988] (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End(2007) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest (2006) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) (-3)
Star Trek (2009) (-3)
Star Trek Into Darkness (-3)
Super Troopers (-3)


Our chosen tally stands at 45 films right now, so I bring forth an option to move all films with +3 beside their names (including the ones in the Divided Opinions heading) into the final selection. We will have 12 more finalised films and our tally will rise to 57.

If all are in agreement, we shall proceed from there.

The Villain 07-26-2014 07:13 AM

I'm good with the +3 movies moving forward

Sculpt 07-27-2014 09:44 PM

sounds good

_____V_____ 07-28-2014 11:27 PM

By adding the 6 remaining films from the 2 nominations section which had the most support, we now stand at 63 chosen films.

One final call for the films in the 1-nomination section, before we go back through all the films in the backburner.


Strong Support:

A CHRISTMAS CAROL (+2)
A Fistful of Dollars (+2)
Argo (+2)
Ben Hur (+2)
Braveheart (+2)
City Lights (+2)
Dances With Wolves (1990) (+2)
Django Unchained (+2)
Double Indemnity (1944) (+2)
Duck Soup (+2)
Forrest Gump (+2)
Gandhi (+2)
Gettysburg (+2)
Mystic River (+2)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (+2)
RAN (+2)
Rear Window (+2)
The Blind Side (+2)
The Fountain (2006) (+2)
The Karate Kid (+2)
The Third Man (1949) (+2)
Wild Strawberries (1957) (+2)


Nominal Support:

9#11 (+1)
Amadeus (1984) (+1)
ANDREI RUBLEV (+1)
Annie Hall (+1)
Bottle Rocket (+1)
Breaking The Waves (1996) (+1)
Broadcast News (+1)
Casino (+1)
Come and See (1985) (+1)
Cool Hand Luke (+1)
Crash (+1)
Dancer In The Dark (2000) (+1)
Drowning By Numbers (1988) (+1)
Dune (1984) (+1)
Dumbo (+1)
Erin Brockovich (+1)
Fitzcarraldo (1982) (+1)
FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (+1)
Glory (+1)
Harold and Maude (+1)
Legend (+1)
M.A.S.H. (+1)
Modern Times (+1)
Music Man (+1)
Nightmare Alley (1947) (+1)
On Golden Pond (+1)
Paths of Glory (+1)
Princess Mononoke [1997] (+1)
Scum (1977) (+1)
Singing in the Rain (+1)
Sunset Boulevard (1950) (+1)
The African Queen (+1)
The Bicycle Thief (1948) (+1)
The Grapes of Wrath (+1)
THE LONGEST DAY (+1)
The Music Room (1958) (+1)
The Neverending Story (+1)
The Piano Teacher (2001) (+1)
The Sting (+1)
Tron [1982] (+1)
Yellow Submarine (+1)


Divided Opinions:

The Fifth Element [1997] (+2) (-1)
Gran Torino (+2) (-1)
Kill Bill [2003] (+2) (-1)
Mulholland Drive (2001) (+2) (-1)
Philadelphia (1993) (+2) (-1)

Blazing Saddles (+2) (-2)
The Crow (+2) (-2)
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (+2) (-2)

Amelie (2001) (+1) (-1)
Avatar (-1) (+1)
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) (+1) (-1)
Old Yeller (1957) (+1) (-1)
Road To Perdition (+1) (-1)
The Social Network (+1) (-1)
Time Bandits (1981) (+1) (-1)
Wall-E (+1) (-1)
Willow (1988) (+1) (-1)

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (-2) (+1)


No Opinion:

8½ (1963)
Back to the Future Part II
CROSS OF IRON
DAMNATION
Duck You Sucker
Enemy At The Gates
Iron Will
Labyrinth
LAURA
NORTH TO ALASKA
Once
PAPILLION
Punch Drunk Love
Raising Arizona
Romeo & Juliet [1996]
SATANTANGO
Spartacus
StreetBallers
Superman
THE APARTMENT
The Avengers
The Boondock Saints
THE COMANCHEROS
The Descendents
THE GETAWAY (Sam Peckinpah)
THE GREAT ESCAPE
The Great Race
The Hunt For Red October [1990]
The Hurt Locker
The Naked Civil Servant (1975)
THE PIANIST
The Quiet Man (John Ford film)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER
The X-Men
Thunderheart (1992)
Walk The Line
Warrior
We Were Soldiers


Negated:

A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (-1)
Bugsy Malone (1976) (-1)
Coach Carter (-1)
Dazed and Confused (-1)
Dear John (-1)
Escape From New York (-1)
Friday (-1)
HELP! (-1)
La Bamba (1987) (-1)
Rushmore (-1)
Sleeping Beauty (-1)
The Magnificent Seven [1960] (-1)
The Patriot (-1)
Tombstone [1993] (-1)
Toy Story (-1)
Trainspotting (-1)


Strongly Negated:

12 Rounds (-2)
21 Jump Street (-2)
Alice in Wonderland (2010) (-2)
I, Robot (-2)
Live Free or Die Hard [2007] (-2)
Mac and Devin go to High School (-2)
The Day After Tomorrow (-2)
The Goonies (1985) (-2)
Up (2009) (-2)

The Naked Gun [1988] (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End(2007) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest (2006) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) (-3)
Star Trek (2009) (-3)
Star Trek Into Darkness (-3)
Super Troopers (-3)


Be impartial, and weigh each film's pros and cons carefully before extending your support for them.

I expect to find at least 20 more from this section, because we won't have much to go through with from the remainder, because the films in the backburner section are the ones with the most negations.

This is a call for fresh voting from everyone, so PLEASE don't be hasty or quick before reaching your decision. Our final 100 has reached a certain level of quality with the 63 chosen ones till now, so let's maintain the quality with the remaining 37 selections.

Sculpt 07-29-2014 03:24 PM

I'd like to add my support to one more film: The Karate Kid - an expert crafting of sincerity, both in directing and also the acting of Macchio, Morita and Shue.

The Villain 07-29-2014 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 974492)
I'd like to add my support to one more film: The Karate Kid - an expert crafting of sincerity, both in directing and also the acting of Macchio, Morita and Shue.

I'll add support to that as well.

Despare 07-29-2014 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 974492)
I'd like to add my support to one more film: The Karate Kid - an expert crafting of sincerity, both in directing and also the acting of Macchio, Morita and Shue.

It was one of the few "coming of age" tales that i was able to identify with... and it got me into martial arts.

_____V_____ 07-30-2014 09:36 PM

Added support for Karate Kid into the list above.

It's a call for fresh voting from the remaining films, so all of you can vote again for those which you feel should make the cut for the final 100.

I'll wait till some of you go ahead, before putting my choices forward.

Sculpt 07-31-2014 01:47 PM

I'm not really clear about the fate of 'backburner' films. Although, as you say, some of them have the most negations, they also have the most initial votes, and are most likely to get more additional supportive votes when looking comparatively at the 'big list'.

As a fake example, maybe Shawshank Redemption got 3 negs, but had 2 initial support votes, and an additional 1 vote during discussion, for a total of +0.

If we 19-some folks look at all those +1 films, four people who haven't chimed in on Shawshank may say Shank is better than most of the '+1 films', and thus make it a +4 film.

For that reason, would you list the backburner films that have not made it into the Top 100 films?

_____V_____ 08-01-2014 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 974652)
For that reason, would you list the backburner films that have not made it into the Top 100 films?

Actually, the films in the backburner are the ones which received the most objections when we started the debate.

I'd say the films with any/all support in the 1-nomination list get precedence here. Instead of making things more complicated by adding those in the backburner, let's finish completely with the 1-nominations. Once we finish rustling through this list, we shall tackle all the remaining films, including the ones in the backburner.

There are still 37 films (+25 Honorable Mentions) needed, so we need at least 20-25 out of this present lot. The backburner films can fill any/few slots remaining.

Sculpt 08-01-2014 01:45 PM

If anyone supports any of these films for our 100, post.

Children of a Lesser God
TOOTSIE
Terms of Endearment
World According to Garp
Reds (1981)
Dangerous Liaisons
The Matrix
Apollo 13
Edward Sissorhands
Dead Poet's Society
NETWORK
ALL THE PRESIDENT'S MEN
Born on the Fourth of July
Goldfinger (1964)
Kramer vs. Kramer (1979)
Leaving Las Vegas (1995)
Miracle on 34th Street (1947)
Rain Man (1988)
Fiddler on the Roof (1971)
Topper 1937
Rebecca (1940)
Fantastic Voyage


I don't think I cast support for these yet:
THE DEER HUNTER
Day the Earth Stood Still
Planet of the Apes (1968)

horcrux2007 08-01-2014 01:48 PM

I'm still pretty new to the forums, so could someone explain this to me?

tfantasy 08-08-2014 12:12 AM

My personal choices in 50 best movies (not in order)......
 
1. The Departed
2. Blood Diamond
3. Fight Club
4. A River Runs Through It
5. Pulp Fiction
6. Legends of the Fall
7. The Patriot
8. Braveheart
9. Lord of the Rings (all of them actually)
10. Saving Private Ryan
11. Gangster Squad
12. The Hobbit (both of them)
13. The Godfather
14. Full Metal Jacket
15. Untouchables
16. Mr. Brooks
17. Dances with Wolves
18. Last of the Mohicans
19. Sling Blade
20. Tombstone
21. Scarface
22. We Were Soldiers
23. Gone With the Wind
24. Goodfellas
25. The Matrix (all of them)
26. Seven
27. It's a Wonderful Life
28. Gladiator
29. Harvey
30. The Wolf of Wall Street
31. Good Will Hunting
32. 12 Years a Slave
33. Edward Scissorhands
34. Stand by Me
35. Bourne (all of them)
36. Green Street Hooligans
37. Harry Potter (all of them)
38. American History X
39. Pan's Labyrinth
40. The Last Samurai
41. The Breakfast Club
42. Boyz N the Hood
43. Doctor Zhivago
44. Gangs of New York
45. Rain Man
46. Troy
47. 300 (both)
48. Immortals
49. What's Eating Gilbert Grape
50. Alice in Wonderland (Tim Burton)

_____V_____ 08-10-2014 11:29 AM

Due to lack of interest/voters/supporters, I'll have to close this compilation.

No choice.

Sculpt 08-10-2014 11:34 AM

Thank you for your work on it V. I really enjoyed participating. I thought it was a great idea. It's obvious to me our HDC members know a great deal about films of all genres. Maybe it's timing. Maybe more a Winter event.

hammerfan 08-11-2014 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sculpt (Post 975176)
Thank you for your work on it V. I really enjoyed participating. I thought it was a great idea. It's obvious to me our HDC members know a great deal about films of all genres. Maybe it's timing. Maybe more a Winter event.

Ditto

Despare 08-11-2014 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _____V_____ (Post 975175)
Due to lack of interest/voters/supporters, I'll have to close this compilation.

No choice.

Sometimes it's not even interest, for instance I don't really see a jumping off point for a lot of discussion you know? When somebody brings up a movie I can discuss its merits or flaws but when I'm staring at a list of 50 films that I haven't supported directly or opposed there's not much for me to talk about. Maybe if you do start this back up we can break down the list and discuss a few movies at a time? I don't know, good stuff either way.

_____V_____ 01-09-2015 02:28 AM

Reviving this unfinished project so that we may complete it.

To refresh the memories, we have already shortlisted 63 films from the Master List so far. They are:
  • Casablanca
    Raiders Of The Lost Ark
    Star Wars
    Citizen Kane
    Schindler's List
    The Wizard Of Oz
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Dr. Strangelove
    Metropolis
    The Godfather
    The Shawshank Redemption
    One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
    To Kill A Mockingbird
    Vertigo
    Dog Day Afternoon
    Gone With The Wind
    It's a Wonderful Life
    Monty Python & The Holy Grail
    Saving Private Ryan
    The Empire Strikes Back
    12 Angry Men
    Apocalypse Now
    Blade Runner
    Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
    North By Northwest
    Rashomon
    Rocky
    Seven Samurai
    Terminator 2: Judgment Day
    The Dark Knight
    The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    The Lord of the Rings
    The Princess Bride
    The Wild Bunch
    This is Spinal Tap
    Unforgiven
    Glengarry Glen Ross
    Lawrence Of Arabia
    Raging Bull
    The Departed
    Fargo
    Bonnie & Clyde
    Chinatown
    Inception
    The Elephant Man
    The Lion King
    A Few Good Men
    Fight Club
    Taxi Driver
    The Deer Hunter
    The Ten Commandments
    GoodFellas
    Groundhog Day
    Planet of the Apes
    Platoon
    The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
    The Day The Earth Stood Still
    The Godfather II
    The Green Mile
    Black Swan
    Brazil
    Steel Magnolias
    When Harry Met Sally


(Continued...)

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These are the films in the 1-vote section (films which received only 1 vote during the Master List compilation), and the kind of support they have garnered during subsequent discussions-


Strong Support:

A CHRISTMAS CAROL (+2)
A Fistful of Dollars (+2)
Argo (+2)
Ben Hur (+2)
Braveheart (+2)
City Lights (+2)
Dances With Wolves (1990) (+2)
Django Unchained (+2)
Double Indemnity (1944) (+2)
Duck Soup (+2)
Forrest Gump (+2)
Gandhi (+2)
Gettysburg (+2)
Mystic River (+2)
O Brother, Where Art Thou? (+2)
RAN (+2)
Rear Window (+2)
The Blind Side (+2)
The Fountain (2006) (+2)
The Karate Kid (+2)
The Third Man (1949) (+2)
Wild Strawberries (1957) (+2)


Nominal Support:

9#11 (+1)
Amadeus (1984) (+1)
ANDREI RUBLEV (+1)
Annie Hall (+1)
Bottle Rocket (+1)
Breaking The Waves (1996) (+1)
Broadcast News (+1)
Casino (+1)
Come and See (1985) (+1)
Cool Hand Luke (+1)
Crash (+1)
Dancer In The Dark (2000) (+1)
Drowning By Numbers (1988) (+1)
Dune (1984) (+1)
Dumbo (+1)
Erin Brockovich (+1)
Fitzcarraldo (1982) (+1)
FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE (+1)
Glory (+1)
Harold and Maude (+1)
Legend (+1)
M.A.S.H. (+1)
Modern Times (+1)
Music Man (+1)
Nightmare Alley (1947) (+1)
On Golden Pond (+1)
Paths of Glory (+1)
Princess Mononoke [1997] (+1)
Scum (1977) (+1)
Singing in the Rain (+1)
Sunset Boulevard (1950) (+1)
The African Queen (+1)
The Bicycle Thief (1948) (+1)
The Grapes of Wrath (+1)
THE LONGEST DAY (+1)
The Music Room (1958) (+1)
The Neverending Story (+1)
The Piano Teacher (2001) (+1)
The Sting (+1)
Tron [1982] (+1)
Yellow Submarine (+1)


Divided Opinions:

The Fifth Element [1997] (+2) (-1)
Gran Torino (+2) (-1)
Kill Bill [2003] (+2) (-1)
Mulholland Drive (2001) (+2) (-1)
Philadelphia (1993) (+2) (-1)

Blazing Saddles (+2) (-2)
The Crow (+2) (-2)
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial (+2) (-2)

Amelie (2001) (+1) (-1)
Avatar (-1) (+1)
The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen (1988) (+1) (-1)
Old Yeller (1957) (+1) (-1)
Road To Perdition (+1) (-1)
The Social Network (+1) (-1)
Time Bandits (1981) (+1) (-1)
Wall-E (+1) (-1)
Willow (1988) (+1) (-1)

Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (-2) (+1)


No Opinion:

8½ (1963)
Back to the Future Part II
CROSS OF IRON
DAMNATION
Duck You Sucker
Enemy At The Gates
Iron Will
Labyrinth
LAURA
NORTH TO ALASKA
Once
PAPILLION
Punch Drunk Love
Raising Arizona
Romeo & Juliet [1996]
SATANTANGO
Spartacus
StreetBallers
Superman
THE APARTMENT
The Avengers
The Boondock Saints
THE COMANCHEROS
The Descendents
THE GETAWAY (Sam Peckinpah)
THE GREAT ESCAPE
The Great Race
The Hunt For Red October [1990]
The Hurt Locker
The Naked Civil Servant (1975)
THE PIANIST
The Quiet Man (John Ford film)
THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER
The X-Men
Thunderheart (1992)
Walk The Line
Warrior
We Were Soldiers


Negated:

A HARD DAY'S NIGHT (-1)
Bugsy Malone (1976) (-1)
Coach Carter (-1)
Dazed and Confused (-1)
Dear John (-1)
Escape From New York (-1)
Friday (-1)
HELP! (-1)
La Bamba (1987) (-1)
Rushmore (-1)
Sleeping Beauty (-1)
The Magnificent Seven [1960] (-1)
The Patriot (-1)
Tombstone [1993] (-1)
Toy Story (-1)
Trainspotting (-1)


Strongly Negated:

12 Rounds (-2)
21 Jump Street (-2)
Alice in Wonderland (2010) (-2)
I, Robot (-2)
Live Free or Die Hard [2007] (-2)
Mac and Devin go to High School (-2)
The Day After Tomorrow (-2)
The Goonies (1985) (-2)
Up (2009) (-2)

The Naked Gun [1988] (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End(2007) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Mans Chest (2006) (-3)
Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides (2011) (-3)
Star Trek (2009) (-3)
Star Trek Into Darkness (-3)
Super Troopers (-3)



I expect to find at least 20-25 more from this section.

To make things a bit easier, I propose to move all 1-vote films with +2 beside them into the final 100 list. What say?


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These are the films which have been tossed into the backburner because of strong negations during initial discussions. Number beside them indicates initial votes that they had garnered during the Master List compilation.
  • Once Upon a Time in the West - 4
    The Matrix - 4
    Back To The Future - 3
    Die Hard - 3
    Edward Scissorhands - 3
    Pulp Fiction - 3
    The Terminator - 3
    Titanic - 3
    Twelve Monkeys - 3
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 2
    Gravity - 2
    Independence Day - 2
    Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl - 2
    Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - 2

I had initially kept this batch for a final debate to fill any remaining spots in the final 100, after we had rummaged through the 1-vote films. But let's have a discussion on all of them, in case any of them makes a case for itself over and above the 1-vote films.

Sculpt 01-09-2015 06:08 PM

I don't think we should over-empower a negative post.

Including a film with 1 vote (say "Scum"), and eliminating a film with 4 votes (say "The Matrix") doesn't make much sense.

Plus, I remember some were posts like "ya, I don't think that's one of the best". Doesn't mean they think that the film with 4 votes is worse than the one with 1 vote.


Just looking at these backburner films: (don't care) means not negging the film, I just don't care about it.

The Matrix - 4 (I think it's definitely one of the best films all-time)
Edward Scissorhands - 3 (I think it's definitely one of the best films all-time)
Pulp Fiction - 3 (I think it's definitely one of the 100 best films all-time)

Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - 2 (very good film)
Twelve Monkeys - 3 (good film)
Die Hard - 3 (good film)
The Terminator - 3 (good film)
Titanic - 3 (good film)
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - 2 (good film, don't care)
Once Upon a Time in the West - 4 (don't care)
Back To The Future - 3 (don't care)
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl - 2 (This is the original, entertaining, don't care)
Gravity - 2 (don't care)
Independence Day - 2 (entertaining, don't care)


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