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24 Hours are up and I dont see any other Ogres online to make their choices. So we move forward into the Seventh Test, i.e., the Third Test for the Ogres.
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Both of you will have 48 hours to do your researches, and write down your answers, and pitch them in front of the Judges. The Judges will be your peers for your entries, and if you manage to win them over, you stand to score the maximum. When you are ready, send me a PM or post your entry in this thread (WITHOUT EDITING), and the Judges will read em and post their criticisms and praise, if any. If either of you dont post your entry within the stipulated 48 hours, you stand DQed off this Test, and dont gain any scores (or favors) from your Judges! You have a hard task ahead of you, so all the best!! |
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Anyway, as it's a task to do..so I'll definitely post an answer within a day but before that I need to think more about it with care & patience. Thanks to NE for this weird [:mad: ] but great challenge!:) |
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Secondly, let me state that I am anti-remake and pro-creativity. That being said, since I have to choose, I'll remake The 'burbs, but I'll take it in a very different direction. First off, lose the comedy and make this story a very dark, gritty and realistic one. Instead of a new neighbor showing up creeping out the existing neighbors, the tale I envision goes like this... A small town family upgrades to the perfect house in Southwestern US suburbia only to discover one of their new neighbors is a serial killer and the rest of the neighborhood is helping cover his tracks. Director - Bryan Bertino (The Strangers. Still making a name for himself but The Strangers captured the horrific atmosphere I envision here quite well.) Dad - Matthew Fox (Under-rated actor that has a TV series with the end of it's run in sight.) Mom - Parker Posey (Under-rated actress that has done a lot of great work on the indie circuit. She's not typically a horror gal, but I think if the right script came along, she could be a dark, gritty, twisted indie film kind of gal.) Teen - Miranda Cosgrove (She's a Disney starlette that will be looking to break her typecast in the near future.) Serial Killer - Billy Bob Thornton (He's good at the disturbed, creepy roles.) Sheriff - Danny Trejo (He seems like a perfect fit for a Southwestern sheriff.) Of course there are several lesser roles, but I do not feel the need to cast those. Depending on the alotted budget (Which I tried to be conscious of in casting.), the supporting roles can be given to up and comers willing to work for minimum. Also, I did not feel the need to give the character's names yet since that will be up to the film's writer's and director to work out and I am merely pitching the idea. Thanks again Austin for the question. I hope I answered it to your satisfaction. |
A little sketchy on the plot details, but I like the direction you're going. Good casting.
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I'll like to get.... Gore Verbinski as Director CASTS: Jude Law as Dr. Frank N. Furter Elizabeth Banks as Janet Weiss Luke Wilson as Brad Majors Crispin Glover as Riff-Raff Rose McDowanas Magenta Brittany Murphy as Columbia Geoffrey Rush as Dr. Everett V. Scott Ben Foster as "Rocky Horror" Seth Rogen as Eddie Michael Caine as The Criminologist |
Ah Roshiq... I'm afraid I was hoping to see a little more thinking outside the box. I understand you haven't seen the film, but still... With Gore Verbinski at the helm, I'm afraid this little chamber musical would turn into a huge budget extravaganza. That might be one way to go- but I'm not sure the script could hold up to the weight.
Most of the cast are the same Hollywood usuals I was hoping you'd avoid- with the exception of Crispin Glover (actually an inspired choice, and one I've not seen on any forum I've visited). Likewise, I liked Geoffry Rush & Michael Caine. The rest seem merely adequate. Those three actors raised your grade to above average- but just barely. |
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Anyways, This should definitely remain untouched but I'm glad that you at least liked few of the choices. Whatever the grades the judges are going to give me...I'll be happy with that...cause I'm not expecting much...but yeah..I think I did my best with this damn tough challenge. |
I liked most of your choices with the exception of Ben Foster. He doesn't feel like a rocky to me. But good casting otherwise, especially Crispin Glover. I would have never thought of that!
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Roshiq- Crispin Glover, fantastic. Jude Law, meh. Elizabeth Banks, however would be a phenomenal Janet and the Magenta/Columbia choices are profoundly hot, though I might have reversed them. Gore Verbinski? Not so much. Pretty solid.
Bwind: This is the kind of out-of-the-box balls on the line thinking I like. Good show. Usually remakes camp up serious material, going in the other direction is intriguing. |
I ll request all Judges to send me their verdicts of the Ogres' performances of this round, and post their criticisms or praise, if any.
Have received grades from 1 Judge already. Waiting for the rest. |
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I like all of your choices except Gore Verbinski and Jude Law. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of both of them, but I don't think this would be a good project for them. |
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I would have preferred more detail as to the plot, but love your casting choices. |
RESULTS OF THE THIRD TEST OF THE OGRES
The grades are in, and they are... Bwind22 - B-, Roshiq - B-. We will have overall grades once the Third Test for all 3 groups are over. And now we move to the Goblins... |
THE EIGHTH TEST OF HDC IDOL 2008-09
I am here to address the Goblins. Each one of you is given a task which you have to perform to the best of your ability, wit and innovation, based upon the knowledge you have of the genre. For your Third Test, the common theme chosen is - JUDGE'S TORTURE. All of you need to pick a Judge out of our four esteemed Judges - Austin316426808, Doc Faustus, Neverending and Hammerfan - and post your selection of Judge in this thread. Then I will proceed to give you the question/task the Judge has selected for you to complete. Two or more contestants may pick the same Judge, but remember, judging on your entries will be done by all 4 Judges. All of you will have 48 hours to do your researches, write down your reviews, and pitch them in front of the Judges. The Judges will be your peers for each of your entries, and if you manage to win them over, you stand to score the maximum. When you are ready, send me a PM or post your entry in this thread (WITHOUT EDITING), and the Judges will read em and post their criticisms and praise, if any. If any of you dont post your entry within the stipulated 48 hours, you stand DQed off this Test, and dont gain any scores (or favors) from your Judges! You have a hard task ahead of you, so all the best!! |
C'mon Goblins! Let's see some participation!
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I will take Docs question. Fire away.
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Gimme what you got, NE.
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Let's have it, Austin!
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Hammerfan - HIT ME!
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All your times begin now...except for Alky, and any other Goblins who show up for this Test. All the best! |
First I must thank you for such a good choice of challenge, which hopefully I will be able to rise to, as I tend to read a lot. Thank you Hammerfan.
Now, before I can even consider the storyline for my novel, I have to look at what was selling at the time. In 1987, Stephen King released his famous novel, Misery, and other books such as When Rabbit Howls and Rainforest which follow the same trend, being psychological stories. It is from here that I can consider what my story should be about. So, if I am to do a novel about psychological matters, i have to think along the lines of the psychologically troubled. And where do the psychologically troubled go? The Psychiatrist! And that is where my novel begins. A young man named Ted Leaward is feeling completely stressed out, after losing his job, a strained relationship with his girlfriend and the threat of eviction. When he is searching for a job at a building site, a pile of bricks falls and crushes him. Leaward wakes up in hospital, and finds out he's been in a coma for three years, having barely lived through the ordeal. As he slowly works his way back into life, he discovers his girlfriend has found another man, and his brother killed himself after his ex wife gained custody over his child. Leaward takes regular visits to his psychiatrist, to help him cope with all of the changes that have happened. After a while, his psychiatrist, Edward Tale, gives him some new government medication to help ease stress; KEFA 1, small green tablets. However, as Leaward begins to take the drug, he goes into trance like states of immense pleasure. It is in one of these states that he kills his brother's ex wife and daughter. Leaward is horrified, and to help ease the pain, takes more KEFA 1. Eventually, he becomes greatly addicted to the drug, with Edward Tale explaining that it helps him ease stress by getting rid of the things that cause the stress. Leaward continues killing. It is only after a policeman sees him coming out of an empty room, smiling, that he gets in trouble. The police officer investigates the scene, after sensing something was wrong. He finds a dead body there, and rushes after Leaward, following him to a dirty apartment, where Leaward is talking on the phone to "Mr. Tale" Leaward turns and sees the police officer, holding the gun. He rushes the officer who's gun is jammed. The policeman eventually restrains him and he is taken to the station, where a psychiatrist explains everything. Leaward developed a love of anagrams as a child. His "psychiatrist", Edward Tale, is an anagram for Ted Leaward, and the medication pots he had, full of nothing more than Tic Tacs, KEFA 1, is an anagram for FAKE 1. The final paragraph is of the psychiatrist leaving the police station. As he passes Leaward, he winks, then, he gets into his car and chuckles to himself as he pulls out a pot of medication with green tablets marked "KEFA 1". |
I liked the one you gave Roshig better. :p
Tough one! 48 hours from now, eh? I'm out tonight, but should be able to give this ample time tomorrow evening. |
Just incase I didn't explain it well enough, the psychiatrist is Edward Tale, and the meds were real. He just used a fake name that was an anagram of Leaward's name and had a fake pot of tic tacs so he could cover up his tracks.
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Let me clarify my question further: Psycho, Frenzy and the Birds are out.
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Yes, I don't think I explained it well enough, and regret I cannot change it. Leaward was given tablets by his psychiatrist, Tale. Tale gave him these tablets that send him into a trance like state. His real name is also not Edward Tale at all. He made it up so that when Leaward was caught and he had to find out what was wrong with him, he could make it seem like he imagined the "Tale" character out of nowhere. And with the tablets, he had the real pot and the fake one. The real one had the real tablets in, which he took from Leaward at the station, and the fake one had tic tacs, which he could pretend Leaward was really taking.
Of course, it would be made a lot clearer in the novel itself, I just don't feel I summed it up in as clear a way as I could have done. |
Hmm, I think I'm following it now. I think you were rushing a bit. I would have preferred you took your time with it - you did have 48 hours to submit it. I like the concept, tho.
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I thought I understood Ferrett's book until he started explaining it...
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As I said, it would be much clearer in the novel. It's not meant to be too simple, but I did explain it very roughly, as it was only the rough outline. Apoligies.
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Garrote (stolen from Rope)
Plot: Two young thugs are co-owners of a seedy strip club called The Hitch. Wanting to move up in the crime world beyond prostitution and small drug deals, they garrote a crime lords son after hours and then invite his family to the club to prove how cold and serious they can be. Directed by Ryűhei Kitamura Cast Ice T – RT Dell Jay Mohr – John Bradshaw Rob Livingston – Phil Grogan Nick Nolte - Pops Angelica Houston – Attie Stance Vinnie Jones – Kendle Drence Danny Trejo – Edison Jared Leto – Little Davey Zooey Deschanel – Aneshia Summary One night, after The Hitch is closed, John and Phils close friend RT tells them that if they want to move up beyond seedy strip club owners and small time drug dealers, they need to make a name for themselves. He goes on to tell them about Kaiser Soze and how he rose from being a small time pimp to an enforcer for the notorious crime lord “Pops” by sending a rival his wife in pieces, one at a time. Then he positively enforces subtlety as well. Quote from the movie: “Now you know that mutherfucker from the Usual Suspects, right? And I aint talkin do Benicio del Toro shit. When mutherfuckers tried to roam in on the Kaisers territory, he put a bullet in his own wife and children. Now that's a hard mutherfucker. That's the key; you got to let the other mutherfuckers know you're willing to do what they aren't. You got to go that extra step and prove to them that no matter what they do, you've got the balls to one up their asses. No matter what. But now listen, that's an extreme example. Shit can't always go down OK Corral style. Sometimes, you've got to go Jimmy Hoffa. There's an art to subtlety. Let the mutherfuckers know that if the shit goes down, they might disappear and never be seen again. Let em know that the NY Giants place kicker is gonna be using their head as a tee while their family never gets closure. Feel me?” John and Phil talk it over, and decide they're going to murder Little Davey, Pops only son. One night after The Hitch closes, they get him coked up and strangle him to death with piano wire. Then they chop the body up and stuff the main floor sofa with his parts. They then invite the family, including Daveys girlfriend Aneshia, who is a stripper at The Hitch and her ex boyfriend, regular and small time racketeer Kendle Drence. They also invite RT, their inspiration in the murder to see if he can pick up their hints on what they've done. When The Hitch opens, they have the family and friends sit on the couch which they've stuffed with Daveys body parts while serving them expensive liquor. Eventually, their bouncer/bodyguard Edison arrives (nicknamed so because he's not the smartest man in the room) John starts telling stories about hits and encouraging the rest of the guests to do so, in which bloody flashbacks of each hit are seen. Throughout, he slyly drops references to Little Davey, wondering when he'll be along to share his stories. Phil, however, does not do so well and appears nervous about what they've done after being next to a well known crime family. Attie, Daveys aunt and new age aficionado, wants to see Johns hands to see if the lines are capable of murder. When she tells him they look more suited to piano, John merely grins and Phil becomes even more nervous as he pounds shots of bourbon and does lines of coke. When Johns conversation keeps turning to Little Daveys absence, RT starts making remarks to drugged up Phil, dropping hints that if something happened to Davey it would be extremely bad for the person who did it. Pops finally starts getting angry that Davey has not arrived on the scene. Aneshia is worried. John further instigates things by trying to get Aneshia to give Phil a lap dance on the very couch in which her murdered boyfriend is stuffed. When Pops calls his wife to check on Davey, she says she hasn't seen him. He decides to call it a night. John gives him a small vial of red fluid in the shape of a cross to represent Jesus' sacrifice. The blood is Daveys, Johns icing on the cake. As everyone is leaving, RT is handed the wrong leather jacket by mistake. When he puts his hands in the pockets, he recognizes Daveys cell phone. He plants the phone on the couch, and then asks Pops to borrow his phone outside because he lost his own. When he calls the phone, John picks it up. RT says it's his, and he needs to get back inside to get it. John knows that it's Daveys phone, and is eager to hear what RT thinks of their scheme. When RT sets on the couch, he feels a small bit of wetness on his hand and realizes it is blood. Knowing now what John and Phil have done, RT reaches for his gun as Phil babbles in the background: “Kaiser Soze. Kaiser Soze. Was it hard? Was it hard? Which one of us is a monster, and which one a man?” RT realizes what he's brought on himself. He addresses both men. Quote: “I can't never take back what I've put in your minds. You've become your own Kaiser, created your own Hoffa. Yet you took the wrong route. Now you've put me in a predicament which I can't escape. How are we going to make this better? No motherfucker wins here. What I'm about to do, I am compelled.” RT raises his gun towards a smiling, proud John. The screen goes black. Two shots are fired. Then a pause; one last shot is fired. |
Flayed- I want to see this movie! What else can I say? Other than- you must agree that a sequel NEVER be made. It must never be revealed exactly what happened in those last minutes.
You've done yourself proud. An exemplary example of how a Hitchcock movie could be remade. I like almost all the casting- especially Jay Mohr, Anjellica Huston and Nick Nolte. Only one that left me cold was Ice T. |
Very creative. Psycho, Frenzy and the Birds had blatant Grindhouse analogs, but Rope is far from taking the easy way out. Kitamura is a strong director who might make this into something excellent. Good choice of cast, good use of the plot. I'm impressed. But trading Jimmy Stewart for Ice T? I don't know.
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Ferretchucker- Feels like classic Koontz. It will sell like hotcakes. You didn't have to overexplain, though. Suspense is like a joke: if you have to explain it an aspect didn't work and it might be funnier/scarier without the explanation.
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Flayed: I'm speechless. This was incredible! I can't say enough good things.
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and Flayed, Garrote was truly great! I'll love to see it's celluloid version too. FC, Nice story indeed but as per your talent I expected more from you, bro. As a psychological thriller/drama I think it's success would be more depend on the making or approach of the film. Best of luck. Btw, what's the title of your story? |
For the title I was thinking someone like just KEFA 1.
I am dissapointed with it and wish I had taken more time to think, but such is life. |
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Sorry about that! I hate it when people spell my SN with an "i" - I understand. Oh, I totally know what the location it is, its significance to the horror genre, and roughly what I'm going to say... I just thought that recasting RHPS was TONS of fun (recasted it in my head actually after you made that post - Good call with Crispin Glover as Riff Raff, by the way!!! I'd keep 'em!! - I might have to start a thread about it with my own personal cast... Yeah, I'm a DORK)... More fun than writing a historical analysis anyway. *pouts* :( *sigh* Oh, well. I'll get on it tonight. :( |
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