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Originally posted by bwind22
Yep, that's true. From Christianity's standpoint, you're right.

The reason being that God is willing to forgive sins. All the atheist would need to do to join the sinner in Heaven would be to ask God for forgiveness. (Since he is an atheist, he probably wouldn't do that, but in theory, he could be right there side by side with the sinner in Heaven just by asking God to forgive him.)

The atheist's refusal to acknowledge/believe in God is what will end up costing him in the end (In Christianity's viewpoint). It's not that they couldn't ask God to forgive their sins, it's that wouldn't.

Well, it's not so much a downright refusal to believe in God. Believe me, the whole idea sounds quite nice. I would not mind living for eternity in bliss. Not one bit. The whole problem comes down to that I can't believe it. Even if I wanted to. I simply don't buy it, and will never believe it. So, I could utter "God, please forgive me for my sins and allow Jesus Christ into my heart, to have and to hold, till death do us part" and all that on my deathbed ... but, I would still go to hell because I didn't believe a word of it. You see? So, even though I'm a good guy, the Christian will say that I will go to hell for something that I can't really help. I mean, I would LOVE to believe that ghosts and zombies and vampires and all that horror shit was real. I really wish it was. But, I can't run around like some folks do trying to fool myself into thinking I live in some sort of fantasy world. My brain just isn't wired that way, I guess.

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Originally posted by Je Suis Phnomne
KrugerKid, are you absolutely positive that the bible is right?

are you absolutley positive that its wrong?

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Originally posted by Egekrusher
The maturity we discussed.. yeah, it's back down in the negative range.

You have a very fucked up view on life. I pity you.

why is it a fucked up view? cause its different from yours?

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Originally posted by meetthecreeper
For everyone an interesting read-"Chariots of the Gods" by Erich Von Daniken, I dont necessarily agree with it but an interesting perspective none the less.

I have nothing against Christianity but I will say that more people have been killed in its name than any other religion aka The Crusades, The Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials etc.

don't forget the great atheist stalin. he made hitler ( who also said he viewed religion as a crutch (sp)) look like a sunday school teacher. add up the crusades inquisitions witch trials etc doesn't come near to how many people died in the name of Communism.

im having my boyfriend delete this retarded thread. ASAP!

Or just in the name of religion, period...

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Originally posted by VisionOfBlood

this is why i havent believed in any religion or any god for at least 9 years, maybe more;and im only 16 yrs old. so what does that tell you. it tells me that if there is a god then he better get the fuck off his fat ass and do something with this fucking world. we have wars, death, starvation and it just doesnt have to be, if there is a god he better get his ass in gear and fix this shit. [/B]

if he did. you atheist would be crying about having no free will.

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Originally posted by fluffho
thats the magic of my god..

people r born into each of their religions taught 'this is the one true way and everyone else is wrong'

so who the hell si right then? so my god just hangs out and like i said eralier, lets shit happen, maybe plays a little tricks some time

its just like mommy and daddy. they got to let us go sometime so we can go live life. what fun is life is someones sitting there not leting us figure ou diseases on our own, fight our own fights, etc..

u need the bad to really appreacitae the good.

so according to your god people who rape, murder etc are ok they are just having fun and deserve to g oto "heaven"?

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Originally posted by wufong
if he did. you atheist would be crying about having no free will.

if you havent noticed the right wing jerkoffs who are running our country are trying to take that away.

and on another note:
SHUT THE FUCK UP BUDDY, YOU DONT KNOW SHIT FROM SHINOLA!

the way i see it. most atheist here are atheist cause the world isn't a perfect place.
it seems ya are all like
"boo hoo there is no god cause im ugly or boo hoo there is no god cause i'm fat. if there was a god i would be pretty and skinny waaaaa waaaa" ffs get over it already people get ill and die. people get killed in wars. build a bridge and get over it. and stop blaming god for the doings of man.