Of the people I know that had that stuff happen to them when they were young, some turned out real, real, REAL screwed up. Some are emotionally dysfunctional, some are sex addicts who don't understand or care why they are that way, some eternally angry and violent towards the world because of experiences they are still unable to process or assimilate.

it was no ones business anyways, I never wanted to bring it up here, its over-good ridance. I gross myself out.

yeah buddy, there is good, there's always good, no matter what the circumstance, they'res always good in someone... aside from hitler and a handful of others, there's always good

even hitler loved, and I come from a verr jewish family. If it wasn't for Hitler, my family would have never come here, and I would have never been born. Some days that would be a good thing, but all and all I enjoy living.

at what cost? "hey your dad killed a man because he looked at you funny... yeah now he's on death row"

yeah... i sure would be damn happy to hear that... but then again, maybe it is a good thing your kids protect their family(ies) but to what extreme?

i know there are those that simply make mistakes. Oprah Winfrey was raped by a cousin who was basically a confused kid. he took her out for ice cream later to try and make up for the mistake.

here is the point i am trying to make (i dont pretend my opinion is correct. i will continue to defend it though). I know "prevention" rarely happens. if the death penalty was a real preventive measure, people would not kill in states that have it. BUT, it does prevent some.

When it comes down to it, i truly think they should be given life sentances like most murderers. just make sure everyone in the prison knows who he is and what he did.

And if "prison justice" stops him from ever seeing his first parole hearing, so be it.

well i didn't want to say that because if i'd said it i'd have caught hella flak for saying it

Hey, you caught flak anyway? what's one more thing? :)

when you go to prison, people know what it is you did, and child molesters do not get treated nicley not by inmates and not by the guards. The truth is is that what they do is so disgusting that its hard for anyone to see anything beyond the crime.

Hey, thats cool that you guys can forgive and see the good in things. i think i speak for urge too when i say i have grown very cynical about the world, and i hold grudges the people in the middle east would envy.

I do believe that in some cases, to fight monsters, we must become monsters. some garbage just needs to be atken out.

We have laws to keep vigilantes from running amok. that is great. And if the victim can forgive, fine. Just make godamn sure they dont do it again, because if they do, then your forgiveness is just an enabler to an evil person.

And i do believe that some people are just evil. they may have been made that way, but they are, and ther eis no forgiveness for evil. Richard Ramirez doesnt deserve forgiveness, he deserves death. Same with Pedro Lopez.