Personally, I would have liked the Governor to become a zombie before she killed him.

I think that would have robbed the characters of the cathartic nature of his death. If he turned he would no longer be the governor, he'd just be another walker, and his final end would be that of just another zombie.

Hmm, you're right! Didn't think of that.

Excited for Abraham coming up soon!

So, I realise I'm way late to the party, but I have spent the last 3 weeks watching the first 3 seasons.
Ive wanted to watch this show for a while, but I rarely invest the time into watching tv shows like this
and either stop watching after a few episodes or never get round to watching them in the first place.


Spoilers ahead although I imagine everyone but me has seen this show by now anyway.

Season One

Pretty much flawless. Characters dont really get a chance to become too fleshed out due to the story moving along at quite a pace, but some strong acting gives a good feel for who the characters are. Everything feels genuine and intense which helps keep a sense of urgency and anticipation even when the zombie action is taking a back seat. High point? First episode was stellar, loved the character of Morgan and really hoping he features in later seasons.

Season Two

Slower paced with some new characters and some surprising exits. Think the new characters add a great extra dynamic and its interesting to see the characters start to evolve. I'd like to see more of some of the lesser characters from the original group. Felt like Dale wasn't used enough and the relationship between Andrea and Dale could've been developed more. Feel the same way about Lori who at times only seems to exist within the show to further distance Rick and Shane, although at least the character is aware of this, even if it is a writing mechanic to increase tension. I'd have liked to see Lori a little darker and more obviously self serving, kind've like a Lady Macbeth type of character. High points? Didn't see the finale playing out the way it did, some big shocks. Loving Maggie and Hershel and the developing closeness between Daryl and Carol. Low Points? Don't really 'get' Andrea. She'd make more sense if she was 16-18, right now her character seems unintentionally naive and capable of the insanely stupid.

Season Three

More surprising exits but a few welcome returns too.... Pacing moves up a gear from the outset showing the group developing into more battle hardened survivors. I think the episodes where Rick distances himself from the group really allow the story to flow and other characters to become more integral. The Governor is a great addition and there have been some quality episodes and story lines developing. Michonne is a good addition to the cast, but Andrea continued to annoy right to the end.

Its great that we got to see a little more of Morgans story, finally. For me, I feel like two of the most subtly important characters in the show are Morgan and Carl. Without these two its really difficult to tell the story and put the world into context. Carl is more obviously relevant as he is Ricks son and the youngest (active) cast member, but I feel like Morgan is almost as integral because he is the perfect character to represent 'everyone else'. Morgan represents all the people who are just like Rick and the group of survivors we are following. He's a good guy trying to cope with an extreme situation and his life mirrors Ricks in so many ways. His journey might be different or remain untold, but he helps remind the show and the audience that this is about real people, not super heroes and villains. He was there at the start of Ricks story and I hope he is there at the end too.

Also, I want to add that I think the show does a great job of not being too heavy handed with moral signposts. The 'good guys' aren't all wearing white hats and the 'bad guys' aren't all wearing black hats. Sometimes they both do things that might seem out of character for a hero/ villain and the show doesn't try to guide the audience through what is right or wrong.

Haven't watched any of season 4, although I've caught glimpses of spoilers from the shows that have already aired. I'll probably just wait for season 4 to finish its run before watching it, so I can watch them in one run. I'm too impatient for this one episode a week thing!

I could say more but I've already said way too much. :shocked:

Love your thoughts on the show. If you think things were intense before. Just wait till you watch season four...

agreed


great synopsis of the show

Its hard to resist just blasting through the first half of season four and start watching the show as it airs. I just know I'll end up missing episodes here and there and get out of sync. Think I'll just find it easier to watch the season when it ends over a couple of weeks.... I really don't know how you guys deal with those mid season breaks. I didn't even realise they did that until I started reading bits and pieces about the show recently.

Kind of reminds me how a certain character in Land of the Dead got his revenge, because he was a zombie when it happened it took away a lot of the emotional impact of the moment.

The last two episodes of Season four that have just aired have literally bored me shitless.Two hours of my life i will not get back.

Really?! I thought this past episode was very intense!

agreed......another WTF episode

Yes! I have to say, though, I agree with what Carol did. I would have done the same thing.

Really the last episode bored you?

I think it was one of the best episodes they've ever done.

Not seen this weeks episode,i assume you are talking about that one,we in Blighty are a week behind you see.But the two before it where dull.

Your patience will be rewarded, although you might not see it that way. Super fucking intense.

I've dug the exposition, but I really liked this past episode.

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I especially liked the way Lizzy was so sorry... for pointing a gun at Carol and still had no idea what she had really done. Wife brought up a good point though, Lenny was happy when looking at her rabbits but Lizzy was still sad... still sorry. I wish she could have been happier.

No doubt. One of the hardest hitting episodes yet.

Ok,i have seen the last episode,like i said we get it a week later than you guys.

Very intense as you said and very thought provoking.No more need to be said a cracking episode.

But it was needed as it was becoming lame again,every one being a repeat of the previous week.But the last one was a corker i agree.

Only two episodes left.....

Yeah, I'm simultaneously excited and disappointed. I hate the waits in between seasons, but I don't need the fucking stress for a full hour every god damn week.

hoping for a hook-up this week of at least one of the "scattered" group.


gonna be tough to top last weeks heart-breaking episode....acting was top notch for all.

So Terminus has got to be something sinister right?

That's what I'm thinking. Worse than the Governor.

cannibals....perhaps

They will all sit down to a nice meal of "Beth-a-la-carte"

I'm seeing the same theory on Twitter, than we're going to find out that Beth is dead and the nice folks at Terminus ate her. That would be a shame, it was nice that she was actually a character for a change.

Yeah would be something of a shame, but it would further damage Daryl which is a character they seem pretty invested in developing.

It's not all that far fetched a theory - having read the comic (don't worry, no spoilers) from the beginning, time and again we've been showed that the living can be far more dangerous than the dead - and cannibalism has been explored as well, so yeah...could happen, with or without it being Beth.

On the other hand, could be just that that the "claimers" turn up and wreck everything...leading to some death, and a new core cast to be out in the cold, again.

I had no idea that was the chick from Star Trek.

Yeah, hanging out on the finale - I wish they'd stop splitting up seasons though, I'm really sick of all that shit.

I'm halfway through the 4th season.
I'm watching the second half as soon as the finale is released so I can watch the remaining episodes over a couple of days.

Anyway, I gotta rant.
What pisses me off the most are the stupid decisions made.
I know it's for the sake of the story and I tend to overthink things but it can be so annoying.
It already bothers me when it happens in movies.
But those are usually 90 to 120 minutes long.
Over the length of a whole series it's sometimes just too much for me.
Rant over. Until next week.

Except for the scene with the guys that Darryl ended up with, I thought the finale was a bit meh. I guess I'm used to them leaving it with a cliffhanger.

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Although, we still don't know what happened to Beth.

But they've never left the finale on a cliffhanger before. Seasons 1, 2, and 3 all wrapped up the arc they had been building up to. They left room for more but they never ended like this. I thought it was a great episode that built Rick back up as a leader instead of the farmer he turned into. I'm interested to see what they do with the Terminus storyline next season.

OK, so, I guess I'm insane. ::big grin::

No just a diference of opinion. I'll admit I expected more

nice to finally see Rick take control again.

next season should be a bloodbath

What a weak finale.
Half the episode was made up from flashbacks.

Yes, I didn't much like the finale...it was ok...

I'm a little confused about the "termites".
See, most of them seemed to be pretty reasonable.
They made sure not to shoot anybody, instead, "herded" them which only happened after a perceived act of aggression.

Though...they did have Glens things, and the regulars did run past what seemed to be a pit full of bones.
Could give some credence to the whole cannibal aspect, as could herding them, might be more of a "keep stock alive" type thing.

Then there's the signage at the memorial, things like "never again" and not to trust anyone, which implies more that THEY had been antagonised and lost their own in the past.
Though I suppose that could have lead them down a dark path, who knows.

Still no sign of Beth...though when they were running through, it did sound like someone was calling out for help.

It could be, they just have a zero tolerance policy against acts of aggression, and everyone that comes in is a bit on edge after the prison thing, and have managed to make the wrong impression - ending up with being put in the carriage, until they can be properly dealt with/reasoned with.

Who knows.
I mean I know we're supposed to think they're all evil cannibals or some such, and that may be true...but, I'd say there's a chance that's not the case.
There's also a good likelihood that they're split down the middle about how they live (resulting in new ongoing cast members), or that some of them are ignorant to any wrongdoing.

Will be interesting to see how it unwinds.

The Terminus Cult looks like a crazy bunch.
I don't think they actually take in outsiders because that's just more mouths to feed.

My guesses for the upcoming season
-I'm quite sure at least one cast member will get eaten. Could result in another 'quest for vengeance' storyline.
-They'll meet other prisoners and Beth will be among them.
-There was a spark earlier between Beth and Darryl so they're gonna continue that storyline some more before killing it off.

OCTOBER 12

That's the date season 5 starts.

I have been without cable tv, indeed any tv for quite some time, so I'm catching up on season 4 via Amazon instant video. I just watched the episode where Daryl and Beth burned down the house, which I found to be a very touching episode.

Still haven't seen the finale, so I don't know anything about terminus, but here's the season 5 trailer...




Here's an article on the next season:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/liv...trailer-721147

Cool, not too long a wait. I can live with that. Yes, that was a great episode! I think last season did some of the best character development of all the seasons -- very emotionally-driven. There's another episode that will blow your mind, but I can't remember if it's before or after that episode. (I think after.)


**SPOILERS**

Yeah, I was half expecting to find out Beth was eaten last season, but I think you're right -- they're going to want to get a little more out of the Beth/Darryl relationship.

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I'm all up to date, and I really liked this season. A lot of really major developments took place. I didn't find the finale' weak at all. There were only 3 flashbacks, and they were used to illustrate how past decisions are still affecting people as time marches on.

Rick really freaked me out in the finale'. I think he's borderline insane, to be honest. I thought so when he was having hallucinations around the time Lori died. You see that look he gets his eyes when things are about to go bad? The pure savagery with which he killed those two guys... my god! I'm not saying he shouldn't have done it, I'm just saying I think he's slipped over the edge a bit.

I'm not sure about the whole Terminus/cannibalism debate. There may be a bit of that in the works, but after watching the season 5 trailer, it's clear the Terminus leader wants everyone to head to D.C.

I don't think for a minute Beth is dead. They're just biding time to make her reunion have more impact.

Rick is a wildman. He may bide his time till the moment is right, and then strike- but he always wins in the end. He'll protect his unit to the very end, with few casualties.

Eh... The Walking Dead isn't my cup of tea.