Indeed, you are Rob Zombie. You even thought the movie was a bit of a disappointment. :D

I really enjoyed the film. I had a big grin in some scences . (Its prefectly normal).;)

For those who are curious about the differences between the workprint and the theatrical print...you can check the differences here :-


*****CAUTION! MAJOR SPOILERS IN THE LINK AHEAD!*****


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Us Brits will have to wait to 28th September to decide how good or bad it is.

I do however have a small query: The trailer come on yesterday on tv and this along with the publicity stills defineately shows the 'boy' Michael wearing his now famous mask, is this the case?

Yes, that is the case.

Sacrilege!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

I went to see it at midnight when it premiered. The previews made it look at least decent, but I was so extremely disappointed. It was the first horror movie I've watched that made me laugh at death scenes (that were supposed to be serious, not comical). And I HATED that they made Michael out to be just your old run-of-the-mill serial killer instead of simply pure evil.

The beginning reminded me way too much of The Devil's Rejects, too. Language-wise.

Just a small update number-wise...

Halloween has currently passed $50 million at the box office.

I've been reading all the interviews with zombie for the past like 4-5 months and yeah, i never really had respect for zombie as a filmmaker although i gave him chances. its cool that he got the dude from clockwork orange, who never saw the original to be donald pleasence's "dr.loomis" and ...but that wouldn't make me go to theaters for it. Really... im not a pessimist lol but yeah i'm gonna wait till it comes out on video to see this, just to make up for the lack of suspense you all keep talking about :cool:

I liked it, a nice change of pace from the crappy horror movies they put out these days. I nice slasher flick with some backround to go with.

I believe there was no sign of him in the 3rd movie. Shows what a fan you are.

Alright, I have to admit I liked this one. Maybe I was just looking at it from a different angle than you V. What I saw was almost what boiled down to two very different parts of the same movie. The first part was a forgettable prequel that didn't really leave a bad taste in my mouth but didn't thrill me either. After the first part is over (which could have just been a Rob Zombie movie about some little boy serial killer) we get the second helping which turns out to be a pretty decent remake of Halloween. I was actually surprised that Zombie could build suspense (there was SOME even if it didn't come close to the original's), I thought Mike would be faster and crazier in this one. The ending was good too and I was surprised once again as I thought Zombie would leave nothing in this movie to the imagination. Anyway, I thought Zombie did a good job... even if he did use too many tits.

I watched the theatrical one earlier this week and compared to the workprint, the last minute changes do add a certain amount of credibility to the finished product. The ending was better IMO (compared to the workprint at least) and some of the subtle changes are an improvement. They didnt need the added deaths though...all it did was add more Devil's Rejects-dash into the Halloween flavor.

But it still doesnt deter from the fact that the "prequel" of the first 30-odd minutes makes Michael a sympathetic character and gives an "explanation" of his behaviourial pattern. This was one of the biggest drawbacks of Zombie's remake IMO. You know what, if Zombie had pursued that part and made an entire movie devoted to the "prequel", it would have actually worked (and would have been a better movie)...but what we are left with is an empty tale of half-prequel/half-remake involving a sympathetic 8 foot tall Michael Myers who isnt remotely scary and resembles Michael Clarke Duncan's character of The Green Mile.

I ll be gracious and grant it a 05/10, just for Zombie's improvement on the workprint. As for being a part of the franchise, it stands behind pt. IV and VI for me.

It certainly beats Resurrection by a mile. I ll give it that much credit.

I think the prequel showed that he only cared for one person.


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Look at Trejo's character, if Michael was sympathetic he wouldn't have killed him. Michael was taken over by the evil that was inside him and destroyed every man and woman that was in his path. It was fun, I'd put it in the top 4 Halloween movies.


Anyway, it was better than I expected with some good gore and fun scenes ruined by some poor plot choices and sketchy dialogue (especially from the girls at some points, holy crap was that bad).

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Trejo's death was added later (it isnt there in the workprint). Maybe when Zombie decided the final version needed a bit more gore and Michael was to look scary (and do a bit more justice to the original), he added it. In the workprint we can see him actually control Michael...

And another part which didnt make sense. If young Michael loved his baby sister even a wee bit so as to spare her life...why grow up and go after her? In the workprint its shown that he merely wanted to meet her, and wouldnt have stalked and attacked her unless provoked first. In the final version, he has murderous intent because he is evil (according to Loomis in the briefing of his book), and then proceeds to Haddonfield to kill her?

What happened in-between...he "outgrew" his love for Laurie? Huge plothole, indeed.

He did sit down and offer her the picture. It seemed like he really thought she was his sister and he wanted to have her... as his. When she stabbed him and said she didn't know who the people in the picture were (remember, as far as Michael knew his mom had told her about him and the family was fine) Michael decided that it wasn't her and tried to kill her. After all, he carried her to their old house after having not afforded two other girls the luxury of a chance.

If he offered her the picture and wanted her to remember, he was pretty convinced Laurie was his sister, right? And after she stabs him and says she doesnt remember, he thought it wasnt her? From one extreme to another in an instant, IMO.

Zombie needed to handle that scene very delicately. It was one of the centerpoints of his movie. Somehow it doesnt fit into the overall picture and leaves a question mark.

Yeah, I forgot to hit the quote button, but anyway I'm referring to the last 2 or 3 posts. About Michael asking if everyone at home was OK, I'm sure he just said that for a chance at going home. He found out it was his sister either when A) Tommy and Laurie went by the Myers house and Tommy called her "Laurie" or B) While he was following Laurie, Lynda, and Annie.

My take on the trying to kill Laurie thing. He spared her when she was a baby so I'd reckon after she stabbed him he saw that she wasn't the person he loved as a baby, just another random person. Maybe I'm overanalyzing, Maybe I'm stupid, Maybe I'm both. Oh well.


Question: Did he wear the orange mask in the workprint?

It was just snap judgement but Michael IS a psychopatch that was taken over by pure evil when he stopped talking. Loomis couldn't even slow down Mike at the end. I don't know, there were some problems, but it exceeded my expectations.

Massacre, I doubt Laurie was her original name. The cop just dropped the baby off at an emergency room so when she was adopted the Strode's most likely named her.

For awhile, yeah.

Exactly.

And about the name...I think the Strodes named her Laurie, like Des said.

I am sure she was born (something) Myers. Michael calls the baby "Boo"...I am unsure what the Myers' called her then.

And about Michael figuring Laurie out, I think it was when he heard Laurie outside, bringing a key to the front door of his old home. No one else would have a key, would they?

last night i watched the work print of the new halloween and i have to say i liked it better then the first, at least the begining, i liked how they took more time on young myers.

Wait... hold on... what do you mean the first? You mean you liked it better than the original???

ummmm i feel like if i say yes im going to have a book thrown at me. I only liked the begining better, i liked how they had shown how myers became insane, the process, im a psych major and serial killers minds facinate me. sorry. lol but yes i liked it better then again i am not a huge fan of the original i have a thing for the newer ones.

I know no account for tast.

Rob Zombie Writes The Worst Dialog...
 

He obviously didn't learn from his mistakes in The Devil's Rejects. Dialog is just dumb. Meyers is too big, the new backstory seems fake, and as said in a prior post, there is no atmosphere.

Bad, bad, bad...

One good thing: Rob's wife is NOT in the film...

Have you actually seen it?

Well she did look a lot less trashy than in Rob's other movies, if that's possible. I spent the whole first part of the movie thinking about how familiar she looked and when it clicked I was a little surprised that her acting had actually improved.

ummm yes she is, sheri moon is the mother of micheal. she is even in the credits.

Hmmm, I think you're the first person I've heard say that BAG... errr Bleeding_Angelgirl. Damn kids...

Just kidding, it was a decent movie but I'm a bit surprised somebody likes it better than the original. As for Myers being big... I don't see what the problem is there. He's always been super strong (picking a young man up by his skull and crushing it) and it's not like he moved super fast or anything. Ah well, I think it could have been a lot worse.

I really liked the moive. I bet if it wasnt called Halloween and had a different killer, people wouldn't be bitching as much. And of course the storyline would have to be somewhat different but for the love of god IT WASN"T THE ORGINAL!!!! Don't get me wrong I love the orginal, and I didn't go into the theater to see the orginal movie. I thought Rob did a good job. I enjoyed the movie and I liked his take on it. It could always be worse, cough Paul Anderson cough........

That was Her?
 

That was her, huh? She used that weird high pitched voice in 1,000 & Rejects, so here voice was alot different in Halloween. Also the hair. I must say she is pretty good in Halloween. If it weren't for that dumb Otis type step Dad, all her scenes would have been OK.

I stand corrected, thank you...

P.S. This film was a good advert for Swank magazine. I'm going to order a subscription...

Halloween
 

(I apologize If there has already been a related topic made.)

I went to see Halloween today and I have to say i was very very disappointed! The little boy that played Michael Myers was one of the worst young actors I have ever come across. And u may like to take note that almost all of the cast of 'Devils rejects' was in it.

It was a massive let down to the origional. The 'Giant' that Micheal turned out to be made me dislike the character and it took away his mysteriousness.

In the origional, Michael would baffle us all at how he managed to survive the blows he took, but in the new one, the obvious reason he survives is because he is built like a house.

and please may i add.....

if u are ever in the situation where u have a man/monster walking toward u and u only have a gun in ur hand.....AIM AT HIS GOD-FORESAKEN HEAD AND DO NOT RUN UP THE STAIRS.....GRR


Zombette is UBER excited about 30 days of night!!! ROLL IT ONNNNN yay :)

psych major here as well...

Oh ya halloween was dissapointing....and rob shouldve done the music...

thats what i liked as the ending was aweful compared to workprint.

but also on a flip side it takes away the mystery of the killer by showing you his tragic childhood

I like Rob's music but I thought the soundtrack was pretty damn good, I'll be picking it up for sure.

yeah i got the soundtrack before i saw it

just watched it. hated the ending. Hated lindsay and hated Laurie. The rape scene was vulgar and Daeg fuck was a complete dissapointment. Other than those main points....it was okay. Not good but not bad. Although, why did laurie limp away? She wasn't hurt.

Workprint watchin' mafucka.

yeah i saw both and the workprint is far superior

I didn't like the workprint.

why? what made the theatrical release better?