I have to admit I liked Wes Cravens 1977 movie The Hills Have Eyes.

you liked something made after the year 1900 I'm shocked:D

LOL Austin you know about The Hills have Eyes one of Wes Cravens best I am shocked. Austin keep in mind I have been a horror movie fan for almost 40 years.

I've been one for 15 years and I've seen alot myself.

Oh for Christ sake. First things first-the acting was not always top notch in these classics you speak of. The reason 'classics' seem better than most everything else is called NOSTALGIA. Had you remade Dracula identically now, just as it was in '31, it would be downright awful. The real point here is most people overlook certain shortcomings in movies if they're old that they would never forgive for a modern movie. A Nightmare On Elm Street was a great horror flick. It wasn't a overtly gorey movie, and the story was fairly original. Should I believe that the Wolfman from the 30's is better? Because it is not. I've watched them all, and own them on DVD. Of course some slashers arent as good, but then, why are you, GOJIRA, only focusing on slashers? The fact remains that The Shining, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, A Nightmare On Elm Street, Bay Of Blood, Suspiria, and Deep Red are all just as good , or better than these classics you speak of. This magic is strictly nostalgia, like when playing an Atari 2600 game or NES game. They WERE great, and that's what you're memory brings back.

By the way, Scream is far superior to IKWYDLS.

I'm glad someone said this, I've wanted to since the first time gojira implied that all these pre World War 2 films are better than Halloween,Nightmare on Elm Street ect. because of their ''Magic''

Omen do you know why those older horror movies are also nostalgic? If you dont let me tell you its because those older movies had better actors. I dare you to see what ant young tv sitcom actor who was in Scream or some other teen flick thinks of Peter Cushing or Christopher Lee when compared to themself as far as acting goes. Better actors will always make for a better movie no matter what genre. In recent years studios have hired tv sitcom actors to be in their movies to lure kids to watch their movies. Ahh how I miss the old days when studios hired really good actors for a movie. Thats why older movies have that Magic.

Don't pass opinion off as fact. There are some great actors in modern horror movies.

Halloween- Jamie Lee Curtis, good actress
Nightmare on Elm Street- Robert Englund, great actor/ Johnny Depp,damn good actor.
Evil Dead- Bruce Campbell, good actor

I could go on but you get the picture.

and I don't know what you have against these actors, everybody has to start somewhere who cares if they were in sitcoms. Very few great actors just got a Gone with the Wind or Godfather type roll thrown at them when they started out and just blew up. The guy who's going to be playing Superman next year in Superman Returns is a sitcom actor but who cares, he might turn out to be the next Gene Hackman or Clint Eastwood for all we know. Stop trying to find a way to convince everybody that these classics you rant about are better than modern films, the bottom line is some of them are and some of them aren't and it's not because of their ''magic'' it's because it's just a better film.

QUEEN OF SCREAMS
 

JAMIE LEE CURTIS IS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL QUEENS OF SCREAMS :D

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BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE MOVIES ARE MUCH BETTER THEN WERE TEN YEARS AGO. ANYTHING FROM THE 80'S THE ARE CONSIDERING NEW CLASSICS.:eek:

Well just dont forget who the original ScreamQueen was actress Fay Wray from KingKong 1933. The 2nd Scream Queen should be Helen Mack from the Kingkong sequel Son of Kong. most horror fans forgot about Helen. now Janet Leigh of the 1960 classic Psycho ranks 2nd best ScreamQueen. And daughter Jaime Lee Curtis became a ScreamQueen when she was in the 1978 movie Halloween.

Omen this is what I mean by good quality horror movies of the past. Lets take one of my fave horror movies of the 1970s that being The Omen in 1976. Most if not all horror fans consider that movie to be pretty awesome even today it still rocks. Now compare that movie to one made 2 years later titled Halloween. Halloween which is a very good thriller movie does not have the type of A list actors as the Omen and if you watch both movies the Omen is a far far better movie. Hell look at who is in the Omen Gregory Peck and Lee Remick talk about damn good actors Damn!! Of course Jamie Lee Curtis like her mother moved on to better movie roles and has become a very good actress. The other night Dracula 2000 was on tv and while I enjoy Dracula 2000 and its concept about Judist being Dracula. I dont think it has the best actors for a Dracula movie. Now if I watch Bram Stokers Dracula 1992 I will be 100% entertainded by that movie. Bram Stokers Dracula has excellent grade A actors and not only horror fans liked it all movie goers liked. There is no doubt about it Bram Stokers Dracula is one of those movies that really has the right stuff or the magic. Its real simple good actors+good script=good movie.

Gerard Butler is a great actor imo.

hmm I wouldnt call him great...but he fits very vell in that Freddy role :p

that's basicly what I was talking about since gojira keeps bashing slashers.

i second that ... he's a great freddie ... he isnt a great actor.

that's what I meant, I haven't even seen him in anything else but I want to see him in the slasher version of Phantom of the Opera.

PHANTOM
 

ROBERT ENGLAND HAS BEEN IN MORE THEN JUST NOES @POTO
WHAT ABOUT URBAN LEGEND, STRANGLAND, WISHMASTER,ECT

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yes i've seen him in small bad roles in small bad movies.

you missed Eaten Alive .. i think he was in that one too.


now lets take up a collection to get the caps lock button on your keyboard fixed.

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I know he's been in more than just Freddy but that's just what I was talking about.

he was in wishmaster for 10 minutes and wasn't that great.

I didn't even realize he was in Urban Legend so that probably wasn't that big of a role either.

He was great in Nightmare on Elm Street series and that's about it.

I Agree
 

I agree that he was get as Freddy in the movies and on the TV show. But some of the smaller parts that he played were just as good. He played the Urban legends teacher in Urban Legend.

Hmmm - so in a nutshell, lizard-boy, films today are all style and no substance?

I agree on the whole - but of course there is the problem these days that most of the best original ideas have been done (or, rather, the simpler ideas were unleashed in less cynical and "knowing" times into more straightforward categories) and the unavoidable misty-eyed nostalgia for days of yore clouding your receptors for new things.

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Mine would be
1)Texas Chainsaw Massacre (remake)
2)Dawn of the Dead
3)House of the Dead
4)Blair Witch II Book of Shadows
5)The Grudge

there ya'll go!!:D

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I respect Robert...saw him first in the tv serie "V"...but hope he never tries to be filmmaker ever again.......
He directed, "976-EVIL."

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The remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre was good but nothing compares to the original.:p

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House of the dead???:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:


How?Why?WHAT THE FUCK!!???:confused: :eek: :confused:

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You didn't like House of the Dead? WHY? I thought it was bad ass how they had flashes of the game in it. It creeped me out.:cool:

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I didn't even bother to get into it dude, I just pretended I didn't see it.

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it's one of the generally most hated movies with everyone on the forum.

once you've seen a bunch of better ones, you'll understand

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isn't that everything else?

I have seen "House of the Dead" 9 times... I dont know what the big fuss was about. It rules!! I wish they just played the video game scenes throughout the whole movie.
My second favorite movie is "Fear Dot Com". I just doesnt get any better.

Finally someone else who appreciates fine movies.

Fear Dot Com was pretty awesome. I liked Saw also.:cool:

Ok... ummm.... i guess no one can tell that i was being sarcastic... I hated House of the Dead (how can anyone see this movie 9 times?!) and I hated Fear Dot Com even more. Freddy Got Fingered, Scary Movie 3, Dumb and Dumber'er.... I just doesnt get any "WORST" than these gems.

Well, i stick to my quote. I liked um both. You need to learn to show that you are actually being sarcastic.:rolleyes:

saw
 

SAW was an awsome movie Isaw it last night. :eek:

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I liked the twist they had at the end!! That just blew my mind!!!:confused:

Saw was good... Twists were very good... I knew it all along... haha.... Right amount gore, cool traps, and twists. Im glad i have it in my DVD collection.

Are u being sarcastic this time??? Mr. Deliverance??:confused: