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I don't think so...humans are just more complex and devious beings. REAL friends (humans and otherwise) shouldn't require a bunch of effort, if it's good, it's good...
I'm not looking at the WHY.

Then...no, I won't...:p

That's all good...it's a personal thing...no doubt a LOT of humans still cling to their faith in humanity at large, I myself do not.
I hate most people I come across, or, they irritate me to the point I no longer wish to associate with them.
For ME, an animals life is worth more, simply because (perhaps due to its comparatively lower intellectual capacity that you pointed out) it lacks the ability to betray my trust, has minimal needs, like a good friend, does not require a huge amount of conversation to enjoy your company, and will always be appreciative of any attention bestowed upon it.
Whereas, when I look upon most humans...I see things I do not like very much at all.
Of course, there IS people that I will be closer to than I would ever be an animal, it's just an inter-species thing, but...overall, animals still win out.
Not that I want to kill either, but if given the choice between taking the life of a random human, or animal...the human would die.

That's so fucked.

Reading the title, i really expected something much different (i just finished watching "American History X"), but it's a good discussion nonetheless.

I am definately with cheeba on this for the most part, i prefer aquarium fish to most people i know. The fish typically have brains smaller than their eyeball, they have an excuse for not being bright. most people i know seem to have made a concious choice to be stupid.

i sure do .. i dont think we have a choice ..

which sounds like a major contradiction after all i've had to say about people (in general)

people are shit ...but i'm still in it for the long haul.
Otherwide i think you'd go insane.

Hey, you think the opposite...I don't judge you for it.

We do have a choice, you look at things a different way...I'm just at the other end in my views...not clinging to it doesn't mean there's not some very small amount actually THERE, I mean, it stops me from taking it out on society at large, and I mean hey, I still make friends - those that I keep have proven themselves worthwhile, and I will trust them until they prove me wrong for doing so.
I'm ok where I'm at...

i think that in itself means you havent given up 100%the guys that really don't live in the mountains by themselves and have lifestyles that would make us cringe. (as long as they arent hurting anyone - hey what the hell)

to not care completely - thats the definition of a sociopath - which is something you arent.

I think humanity is a disease on the earth .. but i have the instinct to survive .. i have to - i'm raising a son and i want there to be a better place for him.

I still think we're doing a hasty spiral into the abyss ... but i cant give up hope ..

I guess this happens when people who weren't well liked when they were younger, turned to animals for friendship to fill in the gap. It's sad, you probably missed out on some meaningful friendships with someone who can actually share your viewpoint of the world.

Cheeba: That's fucked for psychological reasons. ;)

not nessessarily the correct conslusion ..

i find that as i get older, people dissapoint me more and more ..
and i once had a cat that i was extremely close to ..

unconditional love does that to you - its the closest thing to having a child ..

I totally understand the people who have extremely strong bonds with animals ..
but i've always had a lot of friends ..and relationships..

people... animals ... they satisfy 2 completely different needs ...
its really not a fair thing to compare.

- Who exactly the fuck are you to know, or comment?
We don't share the same views, do I say that you must have pretty fucking low self esteem, and you're more than likely a shitty judge of character because you surround yourself with larger amounts of "friends"?
NO.
Do me the same favour.
Doesn't matter if I was "well liked" or not...I haven't always LIKED those that have liked me, nor have I felt the need to reciprocate falsely.
I have friends, close ones...if quality of friendship is something I look for above quantity, I think I've made the smarter decision.
You tell me who's gonna suffer more backstabbings and dissapointments...me, or you, you social flower you.
I like animals, better than humans.
Drop your attempts at trying to figure out whats simply beyond your grasp, accept that not everyone thinks like you and move the FUCK on, 'cos your shit is spinning right back into ignorant territory.

- B.