I am sort of ambivalent about this movie. I have said I hated it, but I think of all the "Alien" films on a spectrum, with Alien on one end, and Resurrection on the other. I guess this one is in between along with Alien3.

Yeah, I think it did too, and also a lot of slick visual references to previous films, which you'll notice only if you pay attention. Sometimes I think this is Anderson's way of placating die-hard fans of franchises so he is more free to mutilate them as he sees fit (like Resident Evil). But he did leave the dark, cramped atmosphere and a little of the tension of previous films, which I appreciate.

Very good point. The first 3 films were so good, and the 4th film (Resurrection, with its stupid baby Alien and lame "humor") is so bad, I think we all had high expectations on it to bring the franchise back into respectable horror. It delivered on this slightly I think; it was not nearly as bad as Resurrection, but then, it was no Aliens either, so there is room for improvement. I haven't seen Requiem yet, but it seems to be based on an early script of AvP, which I read online before AvP came out and was pretty good. I have seen the Unrated DVD out which includes extra footage and supposedly adds to and improves the original film.

It was mostly the plot. AvP was pretty claustrophobic in only a few parts, but it was also a predator movie to some extent, so I guess I can forgive that. The plot was the bigger problem. Typical Anderson, I suppose, without going too much into detail. Resident Evil could have been a really freaky and scary movie, but the result was little more than an excuse to ogle Milla in that torn dress. Yummy.


Anyways, I think Resurrection deserves the ridicule if we are going to bash any Alien movies. What did you guys think of it?

Very nicely dissected, colubrid. I am impressed. And I m sure Alien: Resurrection will be up anytime soon in this thread.


Anyway, about Sleepy Hollow, its a great flick no doubt. But come on folks...we arent exactly bashing it are we?;)

Someone get Doc Faustus. He ll give this one a nice kick in the butt.:D

I wanna bash Resurrection!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

I loved Sleepy Hollow. Depp, Walken, Burton. Whats not to like? Classic story and decent acting.

On a side note, I thought the horseman was scarier with the head on.

christopher walken with demon teeth!
ahhh!

sleepy hollow is fun. it's not amazing, but it's exactly as good as it tries to be, and that's what i enjoy about it.

Thank you.

Its typical Tim Burton, so appreciate it for that. Its a fun movie with a gothic edge. Sure it will disappoint the hardcore horror fans among us (I am at the point where "Dawn of the Dead 2004" is a "Fun" movie hah hah), but its cool in its own Burton-y way. I'm not a teenage emo girl, so Johnny Depp is not my favorite actor, but he seems to play whatever part Burton gives him quite well, and he was good on 21 Jump St., so he's cool in my book. No Walken though. :p The movie was especially cool for me because I grew up in that area, near Ichabod Crane high school, and it does kind of look like that around there, it gets really dark and desolate in the fall, and I think fantastical elements aside (like Burton's signature, almost cartoon-y dark landscapes) the setting was done quite well.


So lets stop wasting time attempting to shit on a pretty good movie, and really shit on a bad one.....like say Alien: Resurrection :D

Hey _V_, we need a bad flick here, otherwise this will become Movie Nitpickers Inc.

There is no shortage of bad flicks in American horror Cinema. Heres some I remember from the mid 2000's

- The Exorcism of Emily Rose (stupid)

- Resident Evil: Apocalypse (lame)

- The Boogeyman (complete crap)

- Doom (insert string of expletives here)

lmao :D

The purpose of this thread was to bash popular and critically-acclaimed horror movies...but I guess we could take our frustrations out on a punching bag once in awhile.

Ok...from the draw of lots, I guess the first one in line to be bashed is...



Wishmaster!!

Let the bashing begin!:cool:

wow, lots of possibilities here for bashing. i'll pick a small one so that others have a turn.

worst "catch phrase" ever:

"give me your wisheeees!"

Wishmaster is not a great movie by far. Theres worse ways to spend a coupla hours I guess. It just felt poorly put togather to me for some reason. Nothing really........redeeming about it imo.

Wishmaster definitely blows. Wes Craven should have never put his name on this waste of film. It was to cheesy to muster up one scare.

Nice.

Keep going!!:D

I kinda........liked it.





ok....it did seem somewhat cheesy and I can't believe they made .....what ....two sequels....but overall...not a terrible movie.


some nice cameos and Andrew Divoff made a somewhat engaging villian.



I guess I'm just not good at the bashing

newb, you're too gentle.
:D

What did everyone think of "Jaws: The Revenge"?

I saw it when I was still a wee tike and loved it. Looking back now I dont know what the hell I was thinking. It was horrible, not the good horrible, the bad horrible.

They were grasping at straws with the plot and the acting sucked.

I agree. Some bad movies are fun to watch, but this one is downright painful. I don't expect every movie I watch to be scientifically accurate. This one didn't even try. I know that white sharks are not as agressive as they are in "Jaws", but "The Revenge" pushed it over the limit. Sharks, especially bulky great whites, cannot swim from Long Island to Hawaii in just 3 days. Please. ALL fish, including sharks, obviously lack the intelligence to come up with the ability to enact the "family vendetta", seen in this movie. Few fish are able to make sounds underwater, and white sharks are certainly not one of those few (yeah, the fish is roaring in fury at the end of the movie). Whites are known to hop out of the water, but not so high as to grab someone from the mast of a boat. On that note, the guy who got grabbed off the mast seemed to survive...ummm how?

The shark effects look like shit. Somehow, this film turned back time so that fake sharks made in the 70's manage to look better than those made in the late 80's. There is some nice underwater footage, but this is not enough to redeem this film. I can get plenty of that from the Discovery channel. Most of the special effects look like the producer bought a plastic shark from Wal*Mart and filmed the shark sequences of the film in his kid's swimming pool. They are that bad.

Even if you ignore the obvious violations to common sense and bad effects in this film, it is still an obvious, boring attempt cash in on the then aging Jaws franchise. What really pisses me off is that franchises like Jaws, which began as an excellent book turned groundbreaking film, end only when the worst sequel fails to make any money. And sometimes, franchises don't even end after that. I bet off the top of your head, you can name 3.

CUBE is a pile of shit that has a uncanny resemblance to George W. Bush and Dick Cheaney ass fucking each other.
let me dissect All of the characters are cliches (bad ass black guy, know it all guy that gets killed real quick(the french escape artist), dumb ass with glasses then has glasses broken who the fuck gets glass lenses? plastic fucking lenses asshole director) I started a thread about this some time ago. The story isn't bad but the movie is.

Jaws i like, Scream was good in the theater, Friday the 13th i like.

Jeepers Creepers Was shit too that guys skin is too small for the monster and how much would be lost in the pealing of the boy. Then if he wanted to hide the stiches like on clothing he would need more skin like a fat guys skinG John Goodmen fat.

How about ... CREEP didn't like it.

So no one else saw CREEP

I never saw Creep, but I have to agree with you on Cube. To me, it's like Lost meets Saw, but without any redeeming value...except for the end with the slow guy, that was kinda cool. I agree with the cliche characters too...that movie had more stereotypes than Radio Shack. I have a screening copy of the direct-to-video prequel, never even opened it.

The Cube's characters were meant to be representations of different aspects of humanity. Every movie doesn't have to include deep character development, while it's a great aspect of cinema there are times in which people just don't grow... or change... or learn. They're more cyphers than anything, just a part of the puzzle with only one talent and beyond that they don't really matter because it's all just about the Cube.

Like The Breakfast Club:D

you mean like the WB Network

I loved Cube. Yeah I know a lot of the movie was terrible for various reasons, but I couldn't help but love it. I just think I'm a sucker for the whole 'They wake up, don't know where they are, who they are, blahblah' type of films/tv shows/books. Darrrn.

Creep I saw in the cinema aggeees ago. I remember not liking it that much, but then I don't remember why exactly...

That's gotta be the most flattering description I've ever heard for Cube, lol. I can see where you're coming from though, about it being more about the Cube than the static characters in it. I just find it somewhat difficult to get into a movie when you don't really care what happens to the characters...that is, without an axe wielding maniac chasing them. Being that the main villain is an inanimate object, I could've gone for at least one character with substance.

That being said, the ending of the movie alone warrants at least a one time viewing.

I really liked Cube, though probably not something I would watch over and over again. I thought it was an original premise and it was very intriguing to watch the first time around. Watching it was like trying to figure out a puzzle because you didn't know why they were there.

Now the slew of lame sequels was just an attempt to cash in on a cool idea, an idea that apparently only works the first time around.

Man...you all roasted Cube so much it might have blasted to bits by now...


Moving on...

Its considered as a cult classic, and many people love the central character. But when 80s Horror is considered, many horror fans dont exactly put this as their #1 favorite.

Can those haters please clarify about why they share such a deep love-hate relationship with


Child's Play?


Here comes the bashing!!!:cool:

Child's Play was terrifying!!!












When I was 8.

I don't know, I like cheesy horror and love bad horror films but Chucky just doesn't do it for me. The acting, the effects, the whole premise is just flat to me now. Come to think of it, I wasn't even a huge fan when I was younger and often got distracted trying to finish it.

I concur. It's great in the childhood trauma department, but when you're an adult, it doesn't really cut it. It uses child endangerment to transgress, but there's nothing all that transgressive about the rest of the movie. It's a yawn. Not only is it a yawn, but it's also a preachy yawn. It kind of drives home concerns of child neglect in the materialistic eighties with less than a velvet glove and also goes back to the "listen to your kids" message of so many other movies. It's very ho hum, kinda declassé and not very well acted. I bought it...for a dollar, and that's about what a person should pay for the kind of moviegoing experience it provides. That said, I love Bride of Chucky. It's campy, clever, fun, sorta sexy, actually transgressive and it taught an old dog new tricks.

Most horror flicks aren't scary when you're an adult. Child's Play fuckin' kills! Its a really dark flick compared to the sequels and Tom Holland's debut Fright Night (definatley more reminiscent to his scripts for Psycho II and Class Of 1984).
Can't wait till some asshole gets all cliche and posts that Devil Doll is better and Child's Play ripped it off :rolleyes:

You mean the Token Black Guy or the cube

The way I see it, EVERY horror film takes inspiration from some where, whether from recent movies, to Victorian literature, right down to scary fables and folk tales. So who cares, everything ripped off some theme or story at some point, you know?

Exactly .....

Valid hammering, guys.

Chucky has seriously lost his scary steam now...and I doubt today's kids would be scared of him either.

So, after Child's Play completes its second stint of bashing here (I forgot it was up earlier in the thread already!), we now move on to a flick which tried to walk in the steps of Scream but got shunned by horror lovers and haters alike. But with such a strong and gorgeous cast, why didn't

Urban Legend

appeal to the average viewer?



Bring on the bashing!!:cool:

Maybe because Jared Leto is a himbo who can't act for shit and the 90s screamteen horror backlash had begun. I think the sequel is a great flick (I feel the same way about Final Destination). For me Valentine is the best film of this era.

He sucked with a capital S, thats for sure.

Anyone else wants to have a go? Get your boxing gloves on and feel free...;)

Maybe the fact that I can't remember a single detail of that movie proves it sucked.

I remember the beginning which I did enjoy, the pop rocks and coke fake death. The rest kind of blends together with I Know What You Did Last Summer and the like.

That's exactly it I think, at least to me it wasn't so much bad as just completely forgettable.