i'd have to disagree w/ you flayed, having played football/basketball in college (also being a gym rat). there are certain hetero rules that apply on the field, court, or gym. of course all these get thrown out the window if you're over 65 (which boggles my mind). i can't tell you how many uncomfortable conversations i've had w/ stark naked old men that corner you in the locker room, asking about your training regiment or how much you can bench. bleccccckkkkk. *grimaces*

*other wise i'm w/ miss olivia on this, someone needs to clear these things up. this post should go into the "the hetero's guide to the galaxy."

Ok...well I just read this thread in it's 14 page entirety. Even though the topic has...uh....moved on, I still want to post my feelings on the original subject.

I have complete trust in the moderators, especially Rayne and Zwoti. I think we should just leave it to their discretion.

Rayne, for example, has been here longer than most (all?) of us regular members here. She knows what we're like as a forum. She knows the track record between certain members.

Personally, though I personally think Dep should have been banned in this incident, I understand and agree with Rayne's reasoning.

Yes, but how do you feel about fags & buttsecks? :p

So long as they keep it to themselves and dont make me part of it, Im all for it:p

What he said.



It's possible, but I don't think I wanna find out.

Well then...You can't possibly know for sure :p

If I ever win a Super Bowl I'll find out.


At this point I'm not sure if I ever do wanna win a Super Bowl. You have no idea how many times I've said that.

I think I have to shave my head, get waxed, wear a Vikings jersey, listen to a britney spears cd start to finish...among other things.

I think it's ok to have a stern debate with another poster, but if derogatory instults start coming out then maybe we should consider banning those responsible.

Are you gay for saying that?

How quickly should the bans begin flying though? I should have the right to express my opinion and call you an asshole just like you should have the right to call me one. I'm sure most people around here have a fairly thick skin, maybe we just need a Happy Fun Place where people can go in and post and any insult is a bannable offense. Though I'm not sure how many people would post in there...

Or conversely, we should have a place specifically designated for abusive "discussions." Wouldn't that be fun? I would go in there every once in a while. Okay, every damn day.

Stwike him, centuwion, vewy woughly!!!

I have a fairly thick skin. I work with a bunch of unruly leathernecks on the railroad, which is a notoriously rowdy bunch of folks; given to heavy drinking, violence, and thievery... and that's just while on the clock.

the same zeal they show in their on the clock drinking, they also show when verbally berating each other. it's not out of sheer maliciousness (most of the time). it's actually usually a sign of comradery and even, ahem, affection.

but, when I get off of work and go home and "affectionately" call my wife a low-down, taint-sniffing, motherfucker, it isn't taken that way. at all.

so basically, like lots of folks have already said, I'm saying it's all relative, but personally I lean way over to the "More Tolerant" side of things. the "if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen" line of thought.

so here's my prespective. I really only read the first page and I hope I'm not being redundant, its just that this is an internet forum designed for people to share their thoughts and ideas about horror. Granted its expanded a bit and the topics can be a bit more broad but you know, hey , I'm rambling
Its just that, people come here to express their opinions, and after someone says that the crow 6 or someother travisty of a movie is their favorite they are going to get flammed. Some people actually get worked up about this as we've seen in many noobs, and others, aka members. Then on top of it all there is the snob factor, which creates these weak factions of dorky minions. Its a playground, only words hurt. And also I would guess that a few regular members really look to their role here and value people opions, and when its negative then maybe it hurts? I'm stoned
I guess what I'm getting at is that, this sort of thing, this silly 'lets work every one up' game is going to be hard to moderate and the lines are going to be shady. maybe there should always be a vote, and to keep that thread from going beserk the only thing a member need to say is yay or nay?
am I being silly?

I would say there is a clear distinction between, for example, "people like you who think this blah blah blah..." and "you're a prick/cunt/faggot now fuck off before I kill you".

Also, as has I think been mentioned earlier there is a bit of a difference between labelling someone an "arse/asshole", "bastard", even "motherfucker" and a "paedophile", "nigger" or even "cocksucker". The difference could be libel, racism and, well, defamation (since while fucking mothers is cool, suggesting you suck cocks is wholly unnacceptable).

Mostly, I think to be safe people should count to ten before typing and instead of resorting to dubious and aggressively directed profanity instead try and craft their posts to get the message across in a more civilised manner.

Just to add, I wasn't being serious about implicating no-nonsense banning.

I'm all for diversity, and a few noobs/hot-heads/troublemakers around the place will keep the forum alive, quite frankly.

Wow...This thread actually got BACK on topic, after a serious derailment...


That's almost scary:eek:




:D



Thanks for everything you guys...I really needed your perspective

slowly i turned, step by step, inch by inch and then I. . .

Cheeba's Original Comments
 

Did you post Cheeba's original remarks which triggered the response from Phalanx and Deposable ?

I can't find them.

I guess this can be a subjective issue other than someone suggested that certain dirty words are ok but others are a violation.

Jeff

Re: Cheeba's Original Comments
 

Cheeba IS Phalanx....Deposable wasn't really responding to anything specific that Cheeba said 'in general'...Just the incident that happened right before Cheeba got banned...And the way that Cheeba chose to express his anger with the forum...As Cheeba said HIMSELF, that wasn't the best way to express himself, but we don't often think rationally when we are angry...

In any case...Once a person is banned, they can come back (as Cheeba did...with 'Phalanx' ), and they have a 'fresh start' from that point...Cheeba obviously felt that his chance to 'start again' was hindered by Deposable's comments based on past actions

What it all really boils down to is...Some people get along here, some people don't...If someone doesn't like you, and you screw up, there's a good chance that the person who doesn't like you will taunt you about it...

MAN 1. Is this the right room for an argument?

MAN 2. I've told you once.

MAN 1. No you haven't.

MAN 2. Yes, I have.

MAN 1. When?

MAN 2. Just now!

Re: Re: Cheeba's Original Comments
 

but everyone loves monkeys!

Re: Re: Re: Cheeba's Original Comments
 

LOL..
yeah..they go good in stews :D

tbh..i have never had a problem with cheebs.
I figure ..the man has his points and has his own way of putting them across..
its not to everyones taste as to how he expresses himself .
But then , not many members make sense anyway..
em a good example on this matter. 'blush'
Sometimes its the way i word myself..where other members take offence
n think em being downright catty..
its all in the wording .:D

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cheeba's Original Comments
 

No, I don't think that was the case. He was uninvolved and as far as I'm aware, not present until sometime after the fact.
I'm pretty sure what he said was without any, or very little knowledge of the incident you referr to (other than my being banned), it was just another oppertunity. If a person is able to freely antagonise another (regardless of someone having short fuse or not) or take every opening to express their negativity towards another, if that all comes under "it's ok because it's just an opinion" or "it's ok as long as you don't think they're present at the time",...I think it's something that ought to be stopped. It's not the act as much as the intent, and I'd think in this case it was clear.
Also...BR, perhaps you could have disposable remove his sig quote...as pitifully obvious a forgery of "me" this is, it's still pretty offensive, and part of what I see as an ongoing attempt to put me down and/or to evoke a negative reaction, which I'm sure is really gratifying to someone well, like him, but something I think I've tolerated long enough.

Re: Re: Re: Cheeba's Original Comments
 

i love all these monkey pics, is it ok if i steal some? :eek:

Of course if we consider that having a short fuse is not the norm, then provoking it might not necessarily mean somebody has stepped out of line - only perhaps in the view of the person with the short fuse concerned. I would say it is up to that individual to fall into line with the general protocol, rather than for the forum to create special needs situations which could be neverending and open to far too much interpretation. My simianophobic condition would never lead to less monkey references being actioned, for example.

So far as a libellous false quote is concerned, I agree it is out of order.

I made that assessment based on the fact that his offending post to you was made in a thread where your banning had been discussed...

I will send him a PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: Cheeba's Original Comments
 

have them all!!!