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best thing this time is that my son is old enough now to go with us to see it ..
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I am dying to see this....
I was never huge into comics, but my 2 passions when i was were X-Men (More or less liked the movie, havent seen 2 or 3 yet.....) And SPIDERMAN. I never quite agreed with Parker's "No kill" philosophy, but spidey is just to kick-ass not to love. The first one made me have dreams that i was spiderman.... I know, dorky, but they sure were fun. I didnt see the second one until about a month ago, and i loved it, so i am DYING to see 3. Venom is probably my favorite villan aside from Carnage (I'm a sucker for the symbiotes) |
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I too am a sucker for the symbiotes, however my favorite villain is Carnage hands down. He's a more deadly version of Venom and he is more dangerous in that he has a serial killer for a host and Carnage is a single consious he doesn't say "we" like Venom. But I am definantly looking forward to seeing Venom on the big screen. |
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i was thinking about Spiderman today ..
in #1 the opening title sequence was mostly blue in #2 it was identical (for the 1st few seconds) but in red. i wonder if it will be black this time. |
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I'm interested to see if the same artist will be back to do the portraits they showed in the openning titles of #2. Those paintings were amazing! |
they were good ... notice Mary Jane was the only one that was actually a photograph ?
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************Spoiler******************************* **** From the way this film is shaping out, Venom is more than likely going to be the final evolution of the symbiote. Its in the first Alien, the Xenomorph started as a Facehugger then a Chest Burster, and finally the full adult. The full adult was like the final moster for the movie. Venom is going to come about in a similar manner I think. |
Kind of...but it's more like it looks different on everyone dependant upon their emotional/mental state, and also reflects how they in fact want to present it.
You can look up some variations, the punisher once wore it in a "what if" and Mac Gargan (formerly the scorpion) who currently has it. I mean yes...it was slime, then parker had it, then brock had it, at which point it got the scary look...but it was also reflective of Brocks anger, hatred, and well...kind've instability to begin with. Whether or not these were character traits that were dormant and always there in Brock, or bought on by what you will see happens between Parker and himself...assuming they carry over the correct storyline...is unsure, but basically at the time he gets the suit, he's very bitter, angry, and self loathing...the suit itself in a similar state after being rejected...they made for an angrier, crazier being. The suit itself did not evolve beyond anything that it was capable in the first place. Brock just flexed different muscles, so to speak. The "suit" also tends to carry traits from it's former incarnations over as well...if you look at the original spiderman black suit, then the venom character, then venom as worn by the fortunato kid for a short amount of time, then the mac gargan version, and I suppose even the 2099 and punisher versions (even though they are non-canon) you can see how it's reflective of who's underneath, and what traits it's "absorbed". As well as aesthetic traits, it also absorbs personality (hence the warped sense of "justice" that's been evident in all of the venom comics = parkers good guy bit + Eddies crazy bit) traits, and tends to use information gathered for it's own benefit, eg - knowledge of the spider-sense allows this suit to be immune to it. I'm sure one day Brock will make a return to the suit...or likewise...he will if he doesn't want to die anyways, and it's something that seems like a lot of the fans would want. |
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I wasn't trying to say that in the comic book the symbiote was anything more. I'm saying in the sense of a movie and the way the general audience with no comic book background might see Venom was the final evolution of the symbiote. Or else as the visual resprentation of the evil dark side of both Brock and the symbiote. B/c the average movie goer is just going think its a costume that is suddenly alive and now it has a mouth with teeth, general audiences will see this as the visual "monster" that the movie may play the symbiote out to be. One article I read said that Brock is Brock Jr. which may mean that they are going to follow the Ultimate Spidy storyline which would further justify why Topher is play Brock in the first place. |
I know you weren't trying to say all that, I was just rambling man...I get what you mean about the average non-comic-reading moviegoers perceptions.
Yeah, the ultimate version wouldn't be bad...bring about the stuff with brock snr and parkers dad working together to make it (which is less "out there" of a storyline) as some kind've medical tech that went wrong, a former friendship between brock and parker I always thought was a cool addition to the ultimate books... |
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Pictures of the Venom figure for Spider-Man 3 http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/c....cgi?item=4327 Larger pictures at the bottom of the site. |
EXCL: Producer Grant Curtis on Spider-Man 3!
Source: Superhero Hype! January 19, 2007 Superhero Hype! recently caught up with Spider-Man 3 producer Grant Curtis to get an update on the highly-anticipated third film. With the footage shown at the Consumer Electronics Association (CES) in Las Vegas last week and the newly-launched official website now live, the hype for the movie is really kicking off while the production is working on completing the project. Curtis told us that director Sam Raimi and team are spending several hours a day creating the special effects currently and that there are literally hundreds of people around the world working on the film. One of the questions he gets asked most often, as do we, is whether or not there are four villains in the movie. Curtis said that is not really the case, as the movie involves mostly Sandman, New Goblin and Venom. The black suit is often referred to as a fourth villain, but it's more Spidey's struggle within himself, which is, of course, a very big part of the story as well. If you were concerned three villains is also too many, Curtis said that they don't just throw a villain into a Spidey movie. He says every villain in the movie has a connection to Peter Parker's story, which remains the center of the franchise. From Harry's growing tension with Peter over the death of Harry's father, to Sandman being the real killer of Uncle Ben, and Venom's connection to Peter (you'll have to see the movie to find out what that is!), everything is told through Parker's story. We couldn't resist asking if we can expect Spider-Man 4, and Curtis gave us a very honest answer. He says that all the people involved with Spider-Man 3 are working really hard towards the May 4 release date and haven't had a chance to think about a fourth film. In fact, on each of the Spidey movies, they have really put all of their effort into the project at hand and haven't thought beyond that. We would say that's a pretty big contributing factor to why the movies are so great! ------------------------------------------------------------------- So I guess Mysterio is not in this movie. |
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In the comic Brock goes to the church to pray b/c he is about to commit suicde. In trailer Brock is in the church praying, but for a different reason, in the trailer he says that he wants Parker to die, I beleive the line is "I want you (God) to kill Parker." Check youtube for this clip it was not in the offical theatrical trailer/teaser. |
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Doom, Goblin and Venom Production Art
Source:Caliph February 8, 2007 JoBlo has posted new production art of Dr. Doom from Fox's Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, as well as New Goblin and Venom from Spider-Man 3. You can check out the pics at the link above. Spidey 3 hits theaters first on May 4 and the "Fantastic Four" sequel comes to theaters on June 15. http://www.joblo.com/doom-goblin-venom |
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sm3 will set a new standard of film
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I'm glad they've decided on venom, but what i can't understand is what would they have more than one villain in the movie compared to the other spider man movies. Not that I don't like the concept but to me it just seems like there's going to be less attention given to the well known villains like venom and green goblin..
seeingred http://world5.monstersgame.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=59060935 |
i am hoping that if they make SM4 they will have
venom and the lizard.....maybe even scorpion,he is my favorite!!! |
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A lot of us complained about the overkill on the villains, in fact if you read some of the earlier posts there was a rumor going around that Bruce Campbell was going to play Mysterio, now I'm hearing that Campbell will just show-up as Quinton Beck. Your fear of Venom not getting a lot of attention is right, in fact Venom does not show up untill the very end (I haven't spoiled anything, its clearly obvious by the trailer especailly if you've seen the trailer with Venom in it). One thing that I can't understand is the introduction of Gwen Stacey, I know its meant to create a love triangle but I thing that people would have wanted Black Cat. especailly since there really was a love triangle there. |
tihs movie is going to be sweet
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The Lizard I could see b/c Conners is one of Parker's teachers. So another professional relationship. |
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He would make for a damn good storyline, but they'd have to change alot in the buildup. |
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They actually kind've reconciled last time sandman almost died though. The events I speak of that kind've seem a little parralell to the idea of sandman having something to do with Ben Parkers death took place in the current run (and latest issues) of "friendly neigborhood spider-man"...although it's sandmans father that's been allegedly FRAMED in the death of Ben Parker, but not the original continuity Ben Parker, but one that kind've snuck in from another reality where spider-man had suffered the loss of May rather than him...decided to hang around, evidently got killed...sandmans father being blamed for it, black suit is back, seems another reason for Parker to hate him...it's at least similar to what the third film seems to be going for. This is nothing new though...it's not always exact, but a few times now, events in the comics (although far ahead in "time) have resembled events in the movies, and likewise...x-men did it, even made the characters resemble the movie ppl for a while... |
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I wouldn't know to be honest...see...Marvel has kind've been slightly fucking up with the whole civil war thing, so many issues of various comics involved are coming out at the wrong time, eg - before others in which events take place prior to them...eg - When I was reading, way back towards the beggining of civil war, some events kind've got spoiled by this happening, sooo...what I've been doing now is collecting (dl'ing anyways) all the civil war stuff, and when it ends, I believe sometime in march, I'll just read it all once I have the correct issues in the correct sequence.
The events I'm speaking of are happening in the "non civil war" spiderman series "friendly neighborhood spiderman" which happens in the same timeline and all, just events outside of the civil war dealy...I've just noticed kind've parralell lines to those events and the ones that are taking place in the movie. However, I can tell you that - Yes, he is back in black. I'm not sure, but I don't think it's the venom symbiote itself, just a costume, as Mac Gargan (formerly the scorpion) now wears that in part of the redisigned "thunderbolts", currently lead by Norman Osbourne himself. But yeah, from what I've heard/read, he's in black because of something that happens during the civil war thing. I have a feeling it's one of two things... 1 - MJ and/or May die 2 - Parker kills somebody, potentially a former allie. I'm leaning towards the second, but really, I'm not sure. |
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I was asking if it from this story arch that they just started which is post Civil War. And I heard that the guy who wrote "the Other" is writeing the storyline where either MJ or May dies. However, May has died before in Amz. 400. |
how far do you guys thing this movie series will go???
SM 4,5,6????? |
I'd say 5 would be a good number, for the films anyway...although there's much more to tell in the whole saga...Personally I think it'd be a better idea to make some kind've ongoing series, not so much a live one, but perhaps a digitally animated one like the last series that came out between the first and second films? That was excellent. Problem is, evidently as good as something is (and I doubt anyone who's actually SEEN this series would think otherwise) it can still fall victim to axe murder.
But all the same, supposedly Avi Arad has another series of the same sort ready to go...I think that this medium would work better than film for a LOT of the spiderman tales yet to tell. |
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I agree, I think the genreal public would see this series for so long and then get tired of seeing the same thing over and over. But look at Bond, he's got 21 movies if you don't count the one WB did and they are already talking about #22. I own the DVD of the MTV series you are refering to, I actually enjoyed that series a lot b/c it wasn't all about the superhero aspect I think it took the time to make itself more than just another Spider-Man show. |
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